boooo

that is passover

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That's spring break. If airfares stay low maybe snackie can go for an extra Gram visit this year.

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What a horrible time for a training camp. Right at the start of tri season (aren't you supposed to prepare in the off season?), right on spring break, and right on Passover.

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Cathy,

Thanks for taking the initiative and getting this on the books. April is the perfect time to start training after a cold, Kansas winter. (You remember those, don't ya?) Hope I'll be able to make it this year.

Jen

Trying to organize the shedules of multiple people, including slowman and monty's schedule, there is going to be some date which will not work for someone. This is the best date available.

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There was a poll taken of many of the team members and it was agreed that this was the best option. Can't please everyone, but MANY are pleased.

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sweet... I might actually not drive this time... two drives from Vancouver to Xantusia and back are enough!

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X2 on Kansas Kold...Brrrrrrrr!

PM me if you want to train this Winter/Spring.

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Can't Wait!!

I don't see why we couldn't do a Seder dinner down there if some of the womens observe Passover. It might take some research on Monty's part...

You should come. You would love it.

I'm in and I can't wait! I know its early, but I'm a planner - what are the best airports to fly into?

Agreed, I can help with that.

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Ontario or Burbank.

As Erin said, Burbank and Ontario are the closest. However, last year I flew into LAX and the drive to and from Xantusia wasn't bad. I think it took just over 1.5 hours and was quite scenic. Best of all there was an In and Out Burger on the way. For me, financially and planning wise, LAX usually works out best as I can usually find a direct flight on SW so I can travel cheaply with the bike.

Kind of a time I cannot blow my kids off....

Passover is a family holiday - think Easter, Christmas - would you have planned the training weekend over Easter or Christmas? kind of bet not.

It is fine but I won't be able to participate.

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Not everyone observes Easter and Christmas. It would have made perfect sense to me to do it on Easter or Christmas since I would be off work anyways and wouldn't have to take time off.

Like pointed out before, there was a poll taken of the team members to see which weekend would work the best and that was the one decided on. Can't make everyone happy.

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 what are the best airports to fly into? \\

Here is the progression for travelling here..Ontario is the best/easiest/shortest..That is if you can find a cheap/direct flight..It also seems to have the cheapest rental cars, usually can find something for around $15 a day..

Burbank is next best, about another 15 minutes further, and many can find JetBlue flights into there..

Use LAX as last resort, as it is a minium of 95 minutes with no traffic, and I haven't found that time yet. You can count on at least a couple hours during any weekday, but ok on weekends.. Lots of cars there too, check all the cheap internet travel sites..And often you get more direct flights from wherever to LAX, so that has to be factored in..I hate connections, so I will often pay a bit more, or drive a bit more to avoid that hassle...And I'm sure Cathy will have a list of arrivals, so that some carpooling can be arranged...

ANd for those flying, we have some loaner bikes here, so I can save you a couple hundred bucks in flying your hog with you. Depending on how many, I think we have accomidated everyone that wanted a bike over the years, and they are all pretty new bikes..Just got to bring your pedals, shoes, and helmet...Cathy can start a list of you that want one, and your preferred size range...

I'll jump over here from time to time and answer any other questions you might have, looking foreward to another fun weekend....

Monty

It's a little known fact that Monty absolutely hates Passover. It's not that he's anti-semitic - far from it. It's the name "Passover" that gets him. It's a harsh, bitter reminder of all the times in his life that he too, was passed over - promotions at work, nominations to the National and Olympic team, the '80 boycott of the Moscow Summer Games, partnering with Dan/Emilio/Gerard in various business ventures, etc. Monty hates this annual reminder of all the times that life shafted him and as such has instigated a ritual of surrounding himself with womens and tequila in those dark hours...

Please respect his wishes and do your part to keep him distracted during this time when he needs his friends the most.

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I got a better idea: let's have our own new tradition at this "easter" camp.... Passover-Monty-Style ;-)

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would you have planned the training weekend over Easter or Christmas? kind of bet not.

Actually it is Easter weekend.

guess Easter is not as much of a family holiday as I thought.

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guess Easter is not as much of a family holiday as I thought.

That's a really crappy thing to say. If you can't make it due to family commitments, then that's fine, but stop making assumptions about other people's lives that you know nothing about.

huh???

you all plan a training weekend on Easter. I am jewish know NOTHING about the holiday other than what friends/coworkers and the media tell me. I ASSUMED it was a family deal to have Easter dinner....

YOU planned a training weekend on Easter - what else can I assume other than Easter dinner not so important to be with family?

Passover is VERY much a family event - the seder is children oriented....It would not occur to me to make other plans on it.

I said have fun - stop trying to make me the bad guy

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TriToy - don't know if you're purposefully being confrontational but to assume that because a training camp has been planned for the weekend of easter means that easter is not an important family holiday is a stretch. All of us on this forum are in different life stages and not all of us have family nearby to celebrate with, are in school, don't have children, aren't very religious, etc. I realize that the timing on this is not necessarily the best to those who celebrate either holiday but let's not turn this into a Jewish vs. Christian debate.

For the record, I'm Christian and my husband is Jewish and while both Passover and Easter are important to us neither of us live near family nor do we have children - as such, we won't really be celebrating either event.

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you are calling in confrontational.
I just stated the facts and said have fun.

if you think that is confrontational perhaps you have some unresolved issues.

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Clearly you aren't making any jabs at all (or being confrontational)

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listen, tritoy, I respect you as a woman, an athlete, and a doctor, and as such refuse to be dragged - unresolved issues and all - into this petty arguement. Have fun!

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just tired of being accused of things I NEVER SAID - so yeah I am going to call it out.

How am I the bad guy for pointing out that the weekend is on Passover and as it turns out Easter? or then questioning whether Easter is a traditional family time?

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Awesome! I'm putting it on my calendar right now! (of course, you know how things like, oh, I don't know, the JOB might get in the way ... but if I can make it, I'm there!)

Easter *is* a traditional family time for many people, but not everyone. Your posts sound very judgemental and I think you know it. Trying to be coy and wondering why everyone is getting upset is just silly. You are coming off as sounding very high and mighty because YOU are sacrificing your time to spend with your family, but everyone else going to this camp isn't. How awfully grand of you. Also, some of us celebrate Orthodox Easter, which is the weekend afterwards.

wow thanks Dawn - for telling me what I mean - I will now just have to reexamine everything in light of being told this.

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I'm guessing with her attiutude TriToy probably wouldnt have enjoyed herself anyways

I'll say it for you TriToy - " Thanks Cathy , Monty and Slowman et al for organising this wonderful camp for the gals to attend , Really appreciate the time and effort you put in and give to it ! Unfortunately this year I won't be able to make it but I'm looking forward to next year already !"

Sheesh !

Thank you Erik.

Now, that part of this thread is closed.

Discussions of the actual weekend are welcome.

For the bikes: We may be able to have loaner bikes for whomever wants to have one. I'll get back to you on this.

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I'll tell Adam you will unavailable then. Big risk management meeting in California then!

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Then he'll think I've done something risky, thus requiring attendance at a "risk management meeting!" I'll just tell him I'm taking time to go ride my bike ...

Discussions of the actual weekend are welcome

Whoops. Sorry about that. Got side-tracked a bit.

I'm going to try very hard to make it next April for trip #4 (did I do my math right? It is #4, right?). Always a great time. Lots of fantastic people to ride, run and drink with. Beautiful spot to just sit back and relax. Lots of doggie love to go around too.

I'm in! The timing of the camp is good, it gives me something to shoot for all winter and I have sunshine to look forward to. Can't wait to see everybody and I look forward to meeting some new people too. If you are on the fence about this, do it! It's a great experience all around.

I'm 98% in too. Why break a streak?

For you womens considering it: it's a low key weekend with and emphasis on fun. There are great long or short rides/runs to go on and lots of time to chill out and relax. Even though I pretty much hate swimming, the trip to the beautiful outdoor pool is always fun!

Somehow I keep missing the swims cuz I'm having too much fun with the riding in that area. I will never get tired of riding a bike through those roads or running by Devil's Punchbowl.

I'm pretty sure I'll be there as well, depending on job stuff. It will be the perfect motivation to get through the rainy winter without fusing my ass to the couch...

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Oh no - that pool is fantastic! Being able to swim in an outdoor pool in April - heaven! And just what's needed to help get through the rest of winter/spring.

Unfortunately I won't be there this year. :( My sister is getting married in Mexico about a week later so April is already pretty booked with travel as I'll be in Mexico for 6 days. But I will second that it is a great time. I went last year for the first time and was really glad I did so if anyone is on the fence I highly recommend it.

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uhm, I just bought tickets to see *cough*britneyspears*cough* on the 9th so if I come it won't be until the 10th.

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HAHA! I'm going to the show on the 8th in Vancouver!!! I LOVE YOU! :D

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ha ha awesome! i'm going with my friend from portland who also saw J Timbo with me on my 28th birthday. I can't wait!

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OMG!!!! Jess!??? I'm in shock!!

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It's always the ones you expect the least, isn't it? ;)

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yes. i can't keep it in anymore. i'm a britney fan. i listen to "blackout" pretty regularly. I haven't gotten "circus" yet, but I will soon.

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Somehow I figured a vegan athlete with tattoos would be the last person to like Britney. My world view has shifted.

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5 inches of snow on the ground here in the Land of Oz...wishing this trip was tomorrow...cabin fever...

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4 inches here in the Northwest with more on the way tonight. Got down to 12 degrees last night. H8

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Get that snow out of there by next Tuesday when I land at KCI!

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New CX training idea - push a snow blade in front of my bike!

My bike handling skills could only get better!

Cathy, I'll be your lead out, as long as you don't mind traveling at ~12 mph!

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April 8-12, 2009 (Wed-Sun)


We are about 3 months away so wanted to put this on everyone's radar again and start getting a tentative headcount.

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I'm in. The only thing that might prevent me from coming is DH's work/travel schedule, but I've entered it into his calendar so he'll avoid travelling that week if he can. Looking forward to it. Is this year #4?

I'll be there.

You have to wear the team uniform:

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I'll be there, camp is something I look forward to every year because it gets better everytime! I should be in better shape this year but I'm still afraid of those hills and the descents. If there wasn't a hot tub to come home to, I might not do some of those rides. Cathy, I might drive down this year, when are you leaving?

I've got a bag of tees and capris that I will be giving out to the ladies. They are screw-ups, victims of the learning curve from screen printing at home. They make great bed time or gardening clothes. I'll also bring all my new stuff, team Xantusia members get 30% off.

>>Cathy, I might drive down this year, when are you leaving?<<

Probably going early on Monday.

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I'm in and already daydreaming about all of that lovely sunshine...

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I'm a maybe - I have five big ($) races this year and I might not be able to afford a camp as well. The timing would be perfect though as the first 1/2IM is in May.

I'll let you know when I know.

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I'm out. Already spending too much $$ this year.

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I'm still in.

Would somebody direct me to how exactly this thing works?

It's my first camp and I don't know anything except that I swim, bike, and run with the ladies and hopefully don't have to share bedding with Swimfan!

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How it works:

Show up when you can, hopefully, you can hook up with someone and car pool from the airport. Put your stuff in a room, usually Cathy and Monty work that out, pet some doggies and then either get in the hot tub or go workout. Every day we wake up to Monty's home cooked meals and strong coffee, then we head out for a ride or a run. Depending on how far or fast you go, you go with women of similar interests and abilities. Every other day we drive down to go swim and get lunch out. Otherwise, Monty cooks. When you aren't training you can either socialize, hot tub, drink, or sleep. At the end off camp, we have a big hug fest and drink too much before we all head home teary eyed and tired. Monty likes to entertain us with his glory stories and sometimes there is a male victim I mean male guest that hangs out with us.

You will leave stronger from training and with new friends.

I'll need to do the math on cost. I'd love to come down so I get in some running on different trails. No cycling for me but I'll join the swims. I'll keep the dogs busy :-)

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Where: Xantusia (Valyermo, CA).
The best airports are Ontario or Burbank (about an hour), LAX or Long Beach are also options, but are 90 minutes or more (maybe way more depending on traffic).

How much?
$ per/night for accommodations and food to be determined (Gourmet chef and all food and drink are included). $50 deposit due prior. (I'll update this soon.)

What is included?
Accommodations, food, drink, wi-fi internet access (bring your own laptop), open kitchen, but Monty will cook for us. Past menus have included tri tip steaks, Monty's special salmon, lasagne, and all the healthy (and non healthy) trimmings). Perks include hot tub and lots of loving puppy dogs!

What will we do?
Swim, bike, run; socialize; hear stories from Monty and Dan; sit in the hot tub; eat, drink, laugh A LOT; make some fabulous friends.

Do I have to come the entire time?
No, if it doesn't fit your schedule...come one day, two days or all five. If you are local and just want to day trip, train and eat, that's fine too (but RSVP and pay in advance please.)

Is this just for Ironman people?
No! Sprint, Olympic, Ironman, slow, fast, serious, not so serious…something for everyone.

What about us dudes?
Sorry, but no, unless your name is Normann Stadler or you are Swedish.

Do I need to bring my bike?
It’s recommended, but it’s possible that loaner bikes will be available. Must inquire and reserve in advance.

What about shipping my bike?
Shipping is no problem. Just use UPS and send to 17116 Bobs Gap Rd, Valyermo, CA 93563....attention: Mark Montgomery.

Questions or to RSVP: PM or email trackie clm

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I was considering it, but it's the weekend after New orleans 70.3 and the weekend before Boston and I just can't travel that much. Have fun.

I would have LOVED to attempt this - but I'm also travelling the week before and after (first race of season). Must post good stories so we can all drool and turn green with envy!!!

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Yay, will switch from lurker to team member! I'm planning on arriving midday on Friday 10th (have some binding work commitments Thursday). Should we plan to leave Monday 13th, or Sunday evening? For those of us flying east, leaving on Sunday means heading to the airport around 2 PM, which sounds like it would cut into training and frivolity time!

You might want to stay through Monday since you can't get there until Friday. Can't wait to meet you!

Thanks Erika!

Pretty sure I am in, will depend on work. I really really really want to go so unless it comes down to a $$$ issue, I'll be there.

Can someone remind me which airport we fly into and about how far of a drive it is from the airport? Would we be renting cars?

Thanks!

I fly in from the east coast too. I usually take the red-eye out on Sunday night, or I stay overnight Sunday near LAX and take the first flight out in the morning. Most everyone bugs out by early to mid-afternoon on Sunday, though, so leaving around 2pm on Sunday wouldn't cut into much.

The best airports are Ontario or Burbank (about an hour), LAX or Long Beach are also options, but are 90 minutes or more (maybe way more depending on traffic).

People try to carpool. That get's sorted out when we have a confirmed list of people.

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Thanks Cathy! I am wondering if I could do the drive from Phoenix or not...might be a hike but I could save on flights and not carrying on my bike. I'll have to check it out to see how long it might be.

I believe it is about 6 or 7 hours..Maybe if we can get Paul Thomas to come again, you guys can carpool..Now that would be an Ironman, 7 hours of Paul Thomas, trapped in a car...XXX rated for sure...(-;

That would be SO worth it! Get a voice recorder...

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In case anyone is still thinking about it.....a number of airlines just announced west coast sales. Alaska, Virgin America, United, American are ones I've seen today.

Burbank or Ontario are closest. LAX also works.

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I did some Google mapping and it does look to be about 6 1/2 hours driving from where I live. That's not bad, and it would save a ton not having to rent a car, ship a bike, pay airfare. So I am thinking I am in! So maybe a road trip from Phoenix if anyone else is in.....

That's about the same drive that those of us from NorCal have. It's worth it.

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Yeah better than the drive from Vancouver BC - which I have (stupidly) done twice! Not this time though, if I can come I will fly. Save a whack of time.

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All right- I am in! Went through the finances tonight and talked to my husband- think it will be a totally fun weekend and I am looking forward to it. Dates are down in the calendar, I will likely come Thursday-Sunday. Can't wait to meet you all and get some great spring training, hot tubbing, wine drinking, etc. in!

OK, Monty is starting to mentally prepare himself. Here's the tentative list I have. Who am I missing? We may have a very special guest. Working on that.

April 8-12, 2009 (Wed-Sun)

clm/Cathy
trailbait/Erika
lkkinetic /Lynne
MITriGirl/
DawnT
mdraegernyc /Michelle
SallyShortyPnts /Sally
JenHS /Jen (?)
AndyPants/Andi (?)
Seagull/Loren (?)

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Is QRGirl coming this year?

Last I heard, probably not. I'm working on her though... :-D

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Cost is $60/night, which includes Monty's gourmet cooking. '
If you are in and I don't have your email, please shoot me a PM or email. Thanks!!
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I'm in! If anyone is flying into LAX on Tuesday (leaving Sunday) and wants to carpool, please let me know. Virgin America has good deals right now from DC (Dulles) to LAX, and a screaming good deal if you fly in on Monday. Cathy -- if I fly in early, can I stay at Xantusia, or do I need to get a hotel room?

I'm looking forward to this, y'all!

I'm 99% sure I'm in too. Arriving either late Wed. or early Thurs. Cathy - my e-mail is: kmceneaney@gcmlp.com

Kristi

April 8-12, 2009 (Wed-Sun)
$60/night, all inclusive

clm/Cathy
trailbait/Erika
lkkinetic /Lynne
MITriGirl/
DawnT
mdraegernyc /Michelle
SallyShortyPnts /Sally
Kristi
csb/Catherine
JenHS /Jen (?)
AndyPants/Andi (?)
Seagull/Loren (?)

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Deposit sent this morning via snail mail.

I'll be driving up from IMCA (San Diego) on Wednesday morning and returning Sunday afternoon to drop off the car and fly home if anybody needs a ride in that direction.

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I am afraid I may actually now be OUT...my in-laws decided to book a trip to come and visit over Easter weekend and only told us AFTER they booked their plane tickets!!! (Don't get me started.....) I still want to come but don't know how to get out of this one. I might be able to drive in for a night or two but this has definitely upended my plans. :(

Still trying to get time off work for this... I have more than enough points to get to LAX free*, so I should know in the next two weeks or so. May have to borrow a bike tho (instead of trying to bring mine). AP

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I'm going to have to pass this year. Had hoped to be able to find the time but the next week is incredibly busy for me. I'm totally bummed.

The next week?


April 8-12, 2009 (Wed-Sun)

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The week after the training camp is just packed for me with a project for the Sea Otter Classic and the Thursday - Sunday of the camp will be prep time for getting everything ready. I'm going to be lucky to get some workouts in I think. If I can swing it I will definitely come but I may not be able to even decide until the weekend before.

Ah, that makes sense. No problem on the late decision.

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Well, I'm officially out, we just bought a house so I will be packing madly and sorting out legal and will need the $$. Sorry :-(

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OK maybe not. We withdrew the offer so it is dead. I might be able to make it after all ;-) Are there still bikes for loan?

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I suck. I totally, totally, totally suck. Time compression in April, between work and balancing stuff in advance of heading to the Collegiate Nationals in Lubbock the following weekend (I'm faculty advisor for the tri club at my univ, and I'm doing the sprint race there too), and I think it's a bridge too far. So I won't be there.

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Damn and bother.

Sorry to hear that.

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I ride between a 49 and 52. I prefer smaller tho ;-)

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You might shoot Monty a message. There may be a 52 available.

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thx will do. AP

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Well, looks like I'm coming after all mwhahahahaha. spending my tax return but why not LOL.

See you all there!

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YEA!!!!!!!!! Can't wait.

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Bump!

I'm getting pretty excited for some training in the sunshine... I'm coming down early to hang out with some LA peeps, but am planning on coming to camp on Wednesday. If someone is flying into Burbank/LAX and wants to share a car, let me know and we can coordinate. I'm flexible as to my departure time and would love to have some company.

Cathy, if we borrowed a bike last year, do you know if those same bikes are available for borrowing this year? I'm debating whether or not I want to bring mine with me. If I need to ask Monty about this, just let me know.

Looking forward to it!

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Flight is booked!!! Coming in Wednesday afternoon and leaving on Sunday afternoon.

Michelle - I might have room in my car. I'm flying into LAX, but I think I drive right past Burbank, so I wouldn't mind dropping in to pick you up. I might be driving up with Andy too, so I have to see how big a car I can rent. I'm definitely bringing my bike. It was great not having to travel with it last year, but the bike I borrowed didn't fit me very well and I spent a couple of very uncomfortable days on it. Beggars can't be choosers, though. Even though it's a PITA, I'm bringing my own bike this year.

Hi Dawn,

That's awesome, I might take you up on that. I'm actually staying in South Pasadena, so that may or may not be en route from LAX, but I can probably figure out a way to get a ride to someplace more convenient to you if need be. I know what you mean about the bike thing, I had similar issues last year even though the bike I borrowed was much, much nicer than the one I own. :-)

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YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait. Just got my training plan from my new coach and I'll be riding A LOT.

You might email/PM Dan and Monty both about the bikes.

Also, I need a definitive list by early next week so Monty can do food planning. If anyone has food, wine or beer issues/requests, please let me know.
April 8-12, 2009 (Wed-Sun)

$60/night, all inclusive

clm/Cathy
trailbait/Erika
DawnT
mdraegernyc /Michelle
SallyShortyPnts /Sally
Kristi
JenHS /Jen (?)
AndyPants/Andi
Seagull/Loren (?)

Who else?

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errr..... am not sure I can get the time off work yet... so I will confirm by Monday either way.

Fingers crossed.

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Hey I get better options for flights i I fly into Burbank instead of LAX. If you are going to be in that area, and want to split a car, we could do that - unless Dawn wants to split 3 ways and swing by...??

Now to talk to my boss...

AP

EDIT: Anyone flying in on Thurs? In case I can only get one day off...

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Either option would be fine with me, keep me posted...

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Heavy, wet, sticky snow here in Kansas - can I come RIGHT NOW????

Oh wait, I have to work to pay for this; scratch the above thought.

$100 deposit paid already and the rest due when we get there?

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I heard about the snow. We had 80F and sun at the track.

Yes, you can pay Monty the balance when you leave.

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PBBBBBT!!!

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I woke up to frakkin snow on the ground this morning.

Let me look into flights and see if I can get something cheap. Likely into LAX just because of price.

I won't need a bike as I'm not planning to do any cycle, just running in the sun and lounging a bit. Gotta bring up my vitamin D.

My other option is a trip to Tucson that same weekend so it will come down to $$. I'll do my research and let you know today.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Check Virgin America - they had some good fares into LAX.

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I'm going to have to pass. I just can't get the numbers to work between flights, car and the nighly fee. If my cat wasn't so sick and we didn't have a crazy bill it might have worked. Kitty is worth every penny though!

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Yeah, I think I am out too - I just can't get the time off work :-( Was really looking forward to it - oh well, sometimes like kinda stinks.

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BOOOOO! (But I definitely understand about the vet bills though - been there, done that!)

Sorry you & Andy aren't going to make it, I was looking forward to seeing you ladies!

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I'm starting to have last minute " I think I should go to tir-camp" thoughts, so I looked at tickets today; $400 is the cheapest I could find. Since I'm in the middle of a kitchen remodel, my though process is ticket to CA or sweet kitchen faucet... The kitchen won. I'll miss being there, but will put it on the list for next year!

I still think we need to plan a PNW chicks weekend. Maybe once it stops raining in Seattle.

I would definitely be in for a PNW training weekend, especially with IMC on the horizon. Looking forward to seeing pics of your sweet kitchen post-remodel!

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Add me to the list for a PNW weekend. That would be nice!

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Hey Jen - if you fly into LAX you can drive up with me. I'll cover the rental. You can't beat the cost of the accommodations since it includes all food too. This training weekend is the best deal going, if you ask me.

Andy - that's too bad you can't get the time off!!! I think a little grovelling is in order.

Ditto here.

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I'd definitely be up for a PNW gals weekend. Here's hoping I might even be able to run by then. :(

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Wow, thank you for the offer! I'll keep my eye on airfare and talk to the hubby about budget. That would be a huge help and I would pay for gas, of course.

Cathy, when does Monty need to know for sure?

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

With a smaller group, if you don't decide until later, that should be fine. Really, your only costs are the flight and the per day and like Dawn said, that includes more food than you can eat and more wine than you can drink!

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That's what you think! Have you seen Jen throw down?

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Oh, SNAP!!!

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Hey now!

Well, if there is chocolate involved then you are speaking truth.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

OK I have begun the grovelling. Updates when I have them. Fingers crossed. AP

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Fasten your seatbelt ladies, I'm comin to camp!!

Dawn - let's connect on your flights so we can do the car rental thang. I don't want to make you wait for my flight for a long time.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Woo Hoo!!! PM sent.

So... who is in? I might make it up for a day, but I'm not positive yet - work and school schedules still to be determined. If I do I will probably be bringing my four-legged running/trouble buddy and enjoying a run and the company :)

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Here's the latest list:

clm/Cathy
DawnT
mdraegernyc /Michelle
SallyShortyPnts /Sally
Audrey M.
JenHS /Jen
AndyPants/Andi (HOPEFULLY!)
Seagull/Loren (?)

Also, Rappstar and Jill, hopefully.

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I just booked my flight!

Do you think we can convince Michael Lovato to pop in?

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Just waiting to hear from my boss who is in (believe it or not) Russia of all places.

AP

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Book the flight. It is easier to ask forgiveness than permission.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Who needs Lovato when we can have Rappstar!! :)

You have no idea how tempting that is. The big Q is getting both Wed and Thurs off. If it were just Thurs I could swing that pretty easily I think.

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Well perhaps you'll have a headache Wednesday and have to leave the office just in time to make a flight... ;)

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Yeah, there's that terrible flu that's going around... ;-P

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Can you "work remotely". In other words, hop on email whenever possible, call into a meeting? I have an iPhone so when I am working I can do email when running errands. They never know the difference, and they don't care, since I mostly work at home.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Only partially. It's pretty tough, in my position I am expected to walk the MFG floor all day long. I have lots of things I can do remotely, but they are not core to my job :-(

AP

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That's what webcams are for!

Or, come down on Thursday.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

desert dude is jealous of the camp so I told him that if he can get through Dan, Monty and Cathy and wear a team uniform he might have a chance.

:-)

I'd pay to see that.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Awesome!

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When I mapquested 17116 Bobs Gap Rd, Valyermo, CA 93563, the response was the website couldn't locate that address.

Where exactly am I going on Wednesday and where may I find accurate driving instructions?

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Ah, there's your problem....

From Dan's directions: Most important: Do not Mapquest! If you do, you're liable to take a very scenic route that will lead you high in the mountains, and to both seasonal and permanent road closures. Use the directions we provide in the link below.

Which airport? See below as it has directions from all.

http://www.slowtwitch.com/Bike_Fit/F.I.S.T._Workshops/Xantusia_46.html

The important part is when you get to 165th street (stoplight).

Up the hill 5 miles and once you are on the flat stretch, look for the green Xantusia sign on the left. Go down that dirt driveway. If you go down the hill and curve left, too far. Turn around.

You will think you're in the middle of no where. You almost are!

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Thanks for the answer...except the link doesn't work!

I am driving back from visiting a friend in Scottsdale, AZ.

Somewhere Dan had written directions, but I could only find your post with the address, now I'll dig further to find his original message...

Off now to pick up my packet for IMCali - #1683 -and that damned cold water again!

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That's weird.

Go to the main ST page and in the upper left, do a search for Xantusia and the second link it is.

F.I.S.T. Workshops, and various other tri and bike related camps, take place on "The Compound," also known as Xantusia.

There's a map there and everything.

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Got some bad news from the doctor. My knee swelled up over a week ago for no reason whatsoever. Still hasn't gone away. Finally saw the doctor on Friday and he's a bit concerned. Did x-rays, ultrasound and blood work. Going back on Tuesday to see what's up. Right now, I'm on anti-inflammatories and rest.

I'm still coming to camp, but I will probably not be running or biking. Might be able to do some swimming. I'll see about that on Tuesday.

:(

Oh no! Just do like I do....don't call your doctor back about an MRI. ;-)

No running for me either. Lots of hot tub and wine time though!

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I found it and printed it out.

Very helpful as I am prone to getting lost inside a paper bag.

Highlight of yesterday's trip was finishing with the 75-79 AG World Champion from Kona.

I only hope to still be functioning, much competing in Ironman competition when I'm 77 years old.

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No cycling for me but I will be doing some hiking with running sprinkled in that some of you might want to join me for. The running part is optional :-)

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Dang I just found out I have class on Thursday afternoon, all day Friday, and Saturday morning. So if I make it up, it might only be a short visit :(

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There is some GREAT hiking! We'll take you up to Jackson Lake or to the Punchbowl (or both).

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We got snow/sleet here today and it's getting down below freezing tomorrow and Wednesday. My flight can't come fast enough. It has been a very long winter.

Sunny here, a bit breezy, but warming up. We are going down to the pool and they will swim and I will ride extra, then ride a new loop with Dan, Toni and Jordan. I think Bjorn is avoiding me. ;-)

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A heads up - my husband has a nasty stomach flu. We have a Dr. on the way out to see him and maybe give him a shot. If so, I'll get one too. I'm playing it a bit by ear for the trip. If I wake up feeling like hell tomorrow I'll cancel because I don't want to give this to anyone.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

I am officially out, I just can't get the time off work. Have a good one for me, and I'll be there next time, I promise!!!

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That's too bad, Andy. Are you going back to Zofingen this year?

Fingers crossed, Jen.

I'd sure like to, but that will depend on how IMC goes ;-)

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Hi all -

I'm out too. Hubby officially has Influenza A and I've been exposed. I'm worried I'll get down there and get sick in addition to potentially spreading it to all of you. If that happened I would feel horrible! I don't know if I'll get it for sure or how long I could be a "carrier" so it isn't worth the risk. Plus, he is still really sick and I hate leaving him like this. He can't even get out of bed. I would be shirking my wife responsibilities to abandon him.

Darn it! I was really looking forward to spending time with all of you. I blame my hubby.

Have a great time and take lots of pictures!

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Y'all are dropping like flies!! :(

Sorry you can't make it Jen. Keeping fingers crossed that you won't actually get sick.

Went to the doctor today. No damage in my knee. He doesn't want me running or biking until the swelling is gone. I can swim as long as I don't use my legs. I'm going to *consider* his advice, but I still might bring my bike. Not sure I can pass up the riding at Xantusia just because of a little swelling!!

Did you check with Dan on a loaner bike?

Looking forward to seeing you guys tomorrow!! Nelson and Spike are lying here getting ready. Bjorn is in hiding. ;-)

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I'm bringing my own bike this year. Decided to do that since it was a bit sketchy last year trying to borrow one.

Bike is packed and I'm ready to go. I'm bringing my swimsuit in my carry-on this year!! :)

See you tomorrow.

Four of the WOMENS are at Xantusia!!! The wine is open, Bjorn is in hiding, Monty cooked dinner. But where is SALLYSHORTPANTS???? Where are you?

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Yea, Sally is here!! Camp has officially begun!

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Awesome! What is Saturday afternoon/evening currently looking like?

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We'll be hanging out and Monty cooking a big dinner Saturday with a bit of wine probably. Come!!

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Did my first ride since last October today. Silly me - I decided to follow Dan and Cathy. Stupid big climb in the middle of a 2+ hour ride. Glad I did it and it feels great now, but it kinda sucked in the middle of that climb.

Now we're chillin' and recuperating. Might do a hike later at the punchbowl.

2 hrs after not having been on a bike since Oct., nice!

Hi to you all from Maine :P

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nicely done... whatever doesn't kill you... yadda yadda yadda... ;-)

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Great job Dawn!

How is the weather down there?

Are you in the hot tub yet?

Have a glass of wine for me!

We are drinking wine.

The hot tub is BROKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Horrors!

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Went to the Palmdale Pool with Monty and the Ladieeeeeeez.

If I had water that nice at home, I would never leave - permanently resign my life to growing gills.

The horses are pretty cool too. Haven't enjoyed them for decades and forgot how much I enjoy a hay-eating animal.

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The weather was really nice today. Beautiful sun, warm for riding, but not too hot. A bit windy, but that's to be expected out here. Tomorrow is not supposed to be as nice. Chance of rain. Saturday/Sunday back to nice weather again.

Oh man, that sucks that the HT is broken...

Funny, for a person who pretty much avoids swimming, I miss that gorgeous pool in Palmdale!

There are now TWO pools in Palmdale!

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Last full day of camp today. I can't get adjusted to this time zone. Up at 5:20 today. Ugh!

Yesterday was pretty chilly. We're all hoping the sun comes out today. We did a trail run at Jackson Lake yesterday and then a short ride. Tried to get up to the jail, but my legs would only allow me to go halfway. Two of the ladies went the whole way and two of us turned back at the halfway point. I guess 2 days in a row of 5 mile climbing is not in the cards for me given the sad shape I'm in.

Today a bunch are heading over to Santa Clarita to swim since the local pools are closed on Saturday. Cathy and I are planning to ride.

Is the coffee ready?

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Yep :)

Where are the pics of everyone lounging around, relaxing, drinking margaritas, etc., so that those of us who aren't there can live vicariously? :D

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I just posted a bunch of pictures from Dawn's and my ride today. Three hours down in the desert in the wind.

http://www.facebook.com/...044&l=260e178723

and

http://www.facebook.com/...044&l=a27502f7af

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There hasn't been a lot of lounging thus far. The margaritas are just now starting to be made, so perhaps there will be some good pictures later... ;-)

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SWEET!! :-) Let the real training begin!

And Cathy, great pics. Reminds me of my damn eternal quest for wildflowers every time I'm in CA visiting my brother. Looks like some nice riding!

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Today was a really good ride. A bit windy, but it's the desert.

We are on the second pitcher of margaritas and just watched the SLOWTWITCH video.

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It was great to see all you ladies! Thanks for letting me join ya for the evening :)

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I should have listened to Monty when he warned us about that last pitcher of margaritas. Let's just say it was one too many. Today is going to suck. I feel like crap.

Good times last night, though. It was great seeing you again, Kylie.

Great to see you Kylie!! Glad you came up for dinner.

I went to bed early and behaved. Last ride today before I drive back to SF.

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Going for 7.01 miles, or a bit longer? :)

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HA! Maybe a bit longer to make sure.

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A big thanks to Slowman and Monty and Toni and Punkin, Nelson, Charlee, Morgan, Babe, Sunny, Bubba/Bobby and Spike and the two horses for all the fun and hospitality last week. And to Dawn, Michelle, Audrey and Sally for the fun and training! And to Kylie and Grace for coming up for dinner Saturday night. And to Bjorn for just being Bjorn.

Dawn and I have been to all 4 years of the camp and every year it's been very, very fun each year. I'll have to say that with a smaller group, there is more training going on, but we did manage to have some fun Saturday night. Hope everyone had a good trip home and we were already talking about planning next year's camp.

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It's a long haul to get to camp each year for me, but I have met the most amazing people there each and every year. Great training, good food, wine, fantastic people, margaritas, mountains, deserts, dogs and horses. Can't beat it.

Thanks to Monty for the great hospitality and to Cathy for organizing this every year.

Cathy, as always, you were awesome.

Dawn, you were the tri-mom of the group...with a wild side when full of too many margaritas!

Michelle, our matching, snarky bike jerseys says it all. Training would have been abysmal without you.

Aubrey, you were a class act to which I aspire if I ever have time to train. 2 IM championship slots in 2 years is impressive!

Kylie, stay and train a little next year.

Monty, last, but not least, many thanks for your generous hospitality.

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Monty, last, but not least, many thanks for your generous hospitality. \\


Sure thing Sally....(-;