Pretty sweet! But what is a Ventum Z? Is it on your website?

Clearly you haven't been spending enough time on ST Nick.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._-_%245499_P6089109/

Haha, got it. Ventum's new bike launched at Interbike. Lower price. I dig it.

I think that is a great price point. I am definitely interested. What is the time frame on this for ordering/shipment?





Mike

Great price point. A full $1k less than the equivalent Dimond and $430 less than tririg.

Big step in the right direction

All I need is for zachboring to engineer me an Omega X-based or Magura-based fork, with beard and stem junction, for this bicycle, and I'm in.

Definitely interested but need to see more pics, so far we have only seen one pic of the front end.

It's the same bike as the Ventum One. It just has slightly heavier carbon and a different fork.

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I'm impressed.

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This is awesome! Very interesting and compelling entry for those of us with lots of nice parts laying around and are interested in long course. If it's still available after Kona I'll likely pick one up.

I'm not going to be purchasing one but I wanted to commend you guys for keeping your finger on the heartbeat of the Triathlon world. ST is definitely a place to gauge interest but also get some direction to where the markets most vocal AGers want to spend their money. Congrats on expanding the product line with the new Z!!

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I'm not.

Stop spec'ing your frames with a 3rd party fork. It looks terrible.

Why not offer your own fork with the same layup as your cheaper frame?

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Jimmy, I was kind of skeptical when I read the following in the Ventum Z thread, but it is really great to see that you guys are actually acting on what you're saying. Props.

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Pain is temporary.

The Z bike is not on our website yet. We will have to go to our studio and do a full range of photo's so it can match the look of our other photos.

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Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

Hi Mike,

We will be able to start shipping these frame-sets by start of November and maybe a couple weeks earlier.

Feel free to email me - jimmy@ventumracing.com and I can take care of you.

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Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

How can I help get the Omega X-based or Magura-based fork, with beard and stem junction organized for you?

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JImmy Seear
Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

I will be able to get some more photo's done once I return from Kona.

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JImmy Seear
Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

This will be available after Kona. We will start shipping by November 1st and maybe a couple weeks earlier.

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JImmy Seear
Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

Thank you for the kind words. We are listening and we move as fast as possible.

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JImmy Seear
Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

You had me at "you asked ventum listened". Like where you are going with this :)

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I'm in the market for a new frame with build kit ready from my current TT bike.

Now very interested in a Ventum at what is now an affordable frameset price point, very tempting. The big but also for me is the fork which is currently a deal breaker.

When looking for a performance rig and looking at the competition (Felt IA 10, Cervelo P3) I want to see a smooth well thought out integrated frame-fork junction.

How much extra for the Ventum fork?

Was thinking exactly the same about the fork. I was never in love with the ventum look but it sorts of grows on me. No disc brakes, you can use it on trainer, price coming down nicely, good integration. I still prefer the look of the dimond but that no trainer thing is a big deal breaker when you leave in a country with sh#t weather. Another year and I mightbeconvinced to buy one :-)

Well if they include the Ventum fork, that kind of kills sales of their original frameset, no?
Like Dimond won't sell the Brilliant fork with their X frame.

Agreed; this is great stuff! Good man, Jimmy!

This is cool, Jimmy.

The Dimond will work with the Feedback Sports Omnium trainer. Never used one but I've heard they are great and don't shred your tires.

Jimmy, you need to calm down with all of this...you've giving me a chub.

This kind of dialogue/listening/feedback/interaction is why I'll be buying one of your bikes. Now you've made it more complicated which one (since I have the Di2 setup already and wheels and seat....)

Way to go!! Enjoy Kona!!

You can buy a trek sc7.5 frameset wit a nice fork and bars. And cervelo must hsve pretty much killed its p3 sales when releasing the np2. Ok they dont offer the np2 as a frameset. Anyway a little off topic.

I'm glad you're getting all excited! If I can help answer any questions or help you with a decision feel free to contact me. jimmy@ventumracing.com

next week will be crazy with Kona so I think I will struggle to be active on ST but I will play catch up the week following.

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JImmy Seear
Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

At this point in time we can not offer the Z frame with the integrated fork.

Some brands might do it but for us to offer an integrated fork we would have to look at doing the same carbon changes as we did with the frame. The Felt IA, Cervelo P3, Scott Plasma 10, Canyon Speedmax and it goes on do not offer an integrated fork/brake on that price point bike or frame. The Trek is the only brand I can think of and maybe there is another that will offer an integrated front end at that price point.

Bikes have been changing a lot in recent times and include more features for the same or lower price points. Lets see what happens over the next year or two.

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JImmy Seear
Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

Wait, What?!?
Diaa Nour is the other co-founder of Ventum? He and Omar are incredible people.

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That is correct Diaa and I founded Ventum. Diaa and Omar are great guys, very entertaining and work hard!

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Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

Send them to me, Jimmy.

These things are going to fly off the shelves at this price point, even before people see what I'm cooking up for the front end.

Omega X would be a lot easier to accommodate than Maguras, but I have those too for testing.

Fantastic I'm excited to see your front end!

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Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

Just want to say: listened to Diaa's Real Starky podcast and thought it was great that you guys listened to ST input—no matter how jarring. It's been great to watch Ventum grow as a successful bike brand and cannot wish for anything but the best for you guys!!

Hey Jimmy... Is the heavier carbon actually stronger than the more expensive, lighter carbon? If so, it would be a good selling point to bigger riders. Half a pound makes no difference when you're already 180+, and if it's stronger, then it's a smarter buy for the heavier athlete anyway.

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Brett, I'm heavier than you right now. 103 kg and my Ventum One has no flex when sprinting or hard efforts.

I wouldn't worry much about your weight on this bike

While I can't speak for Ventum, people like to advertise bikes using high modulus fiber (in fact they're probably using what the fiber industry calls 'intermediate modulus' fiber, and not true high modulus fiber) but for the most part, a higher modulus (stiffness) fiber has a lower tensile strength than a standard modulus fiber. So with high modulus fiber you can get the same stiffness with less material (hence it's lighter) but the strength will be lower compared to the heavier, standard modulus fiber. To maintain stiffness you'll need more of the standard modulus fiber - but it normally will end up stronger in tension and compression. This is the case for most fiber types from the big manufacturers - with a few minor exceptions. The cost of intermediate and high modulus fiber goes up drastically - so I think that the standard modulus fiber frame is usually a much, much better bang for the buck.

Jimmy-
This is a good point. I'm a solid 220lbs, and ain't much room to lose weight unless I'm eating muscle (and I don't have any plans to wither away). So knowing if the "heavier" bike is "stronger" would be a good point. Not everyone in Triathlon are in the Featherweight division.

As I posted earlier, I am 225 lbs right now and no concern with their premium layup

I'll post my bike pics next month when I can get good rider shots taken during my first race.

But their on my fb page if bike only. Jmcolp

Hey... just an idea... bottle cage bosses under the top tube so somebody could mount storage or a bottle there. Or not. Small update that would be pretty interesting. The thing about bottle cage bosses is they give the buyer a lot of options and happiness without costing the bike manufacturer much in comparison.

Just imagine if the Ventum had storage or fairing behind the front wheel that you could just click on like we can click on rear storage behind the Trek SC or QR PR6. Bosses, a plastic box, done.

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Oh I second this idea. Would make the bike even better looking too. The integration on the bike is already topnotch, so let's make some more!

Are there photos and full specs available for this bike yet? I am interested

Very sorry for the slow reply. It's been a crazy couple weeks.

You will not have an issue at 220lbs on either of the frames. In terms of frame strength the Higher end frame does pass more stress cycles and loads than the lower grade carbon. Not by much as there is not a huge difference between the grades of you use in a carbon bike frame. The higher end frame will be a stiffer ride and last longer.

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JImmy Seear
Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

I really like this idea!

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Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

We have been very busy with all the events on over the last 2 months. We need to get the photo's done for the Z but have not had the time yet. We will get to these as soon as possible. I will get some decent (I'm not a professional photographer) pictures for you and will post on here. I'm just waiting for the Z demo bike to return from Kona.

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Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

Cool! What made me think of it is this article by Wired.com on why the AR-15 is so popular with gun enthusiasts. It's apparently more of a gun platform than a gun, allowing endless customizations. https://www.wired.com/2013/02/ar-15/ If a bike maker follows the same concept, they make a great frame, but don't worry about integrating all the aero stuff perfectly. Instead, provide lots of attachment points and let the aftermarket go crazy with aero add-ons. Somebody wants some storage behind the seatpost? Go for it, there's bolts. Somebody wants storage that shields the chainrings like the Andean? Go for it, there's bolts. If you ever do disc brakes and somebody wants little fairings over them? Go for it, there's bolts. Just encourage add-on makers that it's an open platform and to go nuts with it. Make some yourself to make some $$$ off it, but it's the open market that will come up with ideas you never thought of. Shoot, even give away instructions/dimensions and and a how-to for a 3D printer for people to make their own.

I've used these thin bolt hole covers on a bike for unused bolt holes and they looked great. You'd almost never notice there were bolt holes there. http://www.tririg.com/...dds_Review&num=4

And then provide a user submitted gallery of pics people sent in with their configuration for people to show off their setup. Like fixedgeargallery.com Then people will get ideas and want to join the Ventum club.

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Morning,
I'm now browsing through all kinds of threads at SW, youtube videos and any other kind of stuff. Still hate myself that I didn't grab the opportunity to reach out to V at their Oceanside stand earlier this year.
However, I'm really hooked. I want this bike!
My biggest concern is
- bento box
- tool storage

As much as I like the integration of fluid, what about snacks and repair storage?? I respect all the information and again, the marketing hits the right buttons but somehow this looks like not thought through...
thanks!

Good morning,

I would love to answer any of your questions. What is your next race?

As for Bento box you are able to mount a bento box to the top of the water bottle. We have threads built into the bottle to make installation easy.

For tool storage we are developing a new mount that will sit right behind the saddle for either a bottle or tools/spares. We should be launching this soon. Some customers use a saddle bag currently tucking the spares under the saddle.

If you would like more information feel free to email me jimmy@ventumracing.com

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Co-Founder Ventum
http://www.ventumracing.com

wow, that was quick :)
The storage box is definitely something id like to see first before I decide. I love solutions like Quintana has or Trek. that looks well integrated. Diamond Back killed it in my opinion but is overall to heavy for me. P5x is too much of a price difference.

I'm located in Richmond, VA.

My next race is a local HM and than - see how it goes - IM AZ. I'm shifting more and more into longer races. I wanted to check out Bonzai in DC on the weekend hence you listed them as certified dealer. Again, just missed the opportunity earlier the year in Oceanside. Of course I'll follow up with your race schedule and may see you guys out there!
Thanks again

Morning Jimmy,
any news on the tool box?
Best