Hi Ian,

I unhelpfully have no firm numbers here. In a period of post IM stupidity sold my Shiv and even greater stupidity didn't record any of the fit measurements. I adjusted it myself over time and was fairly happy with the position.

I'm also aware that I have weird proportions. I did speak to a Canyon support person who agreed with my assessment of needing a size L despite the autosize suggesting M. I'm still not confident that I'm going to be able to get any size to work though.

I've worked out from photos and knowing spacer and riser dimensions some approximate values.

My measurements: 182cm Tall, 90cm Inseam.

I had a large Shiv which has these:

Frame Stack: 565mm

Frame Reach: 425mm

Pad Stack: ~725mm - Based off my photos, 45mm of risers under the pads/bars and about 45-50mm of steerer spacers under the stem. Combined with the stem (definitely 60mm, maybe -6 degree) and the height of the bars/pads themselves, my conservatively high estimate is about 160mm above the Frame Stack.

Pad Reach: ~445mm - To the centre of the pad is probably about 20mm longer than the Frame Reach.

Saddle height: ~780mm - I'm not sure of this, my current road bike is this, but I'm not particularly happy with the setup on that yet. Looking at the race photos I think it might have been better a little higher and further forward.

Saddle: Adamo ISM Attack - Slightly forward of centre.

I've attached a couple of photos in case that helps.