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Re: Trump supporters? [Kay Serrar]
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Many are trends or initiatives begun prior to his administration (yes, many under Obama), and many are legislative successes where really congress should take primary credit. Trump just signs them into law. Oh, and some are, as you can guess, false, or have been since overturned by a court.


Also, a few are bona-fide bi-partisan successes. Many of them are "successes" only from a very partisan lens, yet are major successes for for them.

All presidents have these lists. The list that you won't find on the white house website is the extremely long list of failures. The question is whether a person is willing to even acknowledge that list, and at what point the failures become too overwhelming to continue supporting re-election. Most folks are so stuck in bias and false equivalence and propaganda that they really can't switch. For many folks the relentless cycle of failure and rationalization has effectively vaccinated them against any feeling of outrage at anything that Trump does. For some, snide condemnation from people like you has engendered a cycle of tribal animosity distinct from any policy.

Most conservatives that I know fall into four general camps. The largest, for many of the reasons listed above, are trapped in a binary world where they must always vote against Dems and will knowingly stick with a flawed candidate like Trump (and are at some level reluctant). The next largest are full-throated supporters of Trumpism (not much to do but shake one's head). The third group have left whatever the GOP has become, and easily align with moderate Democrats (RINO's, and that includes a lot of folks that live in my area). The smallest group are usually educated "Never Trumpers", who believe that the first painful step in repairing the GOP is ensuring the defeat of Trumpism. There is a lot of gray between these groups. A bunch of reluctant Trumpers could be convinced 1.) That the world is not incessantly binary and 2.) that the best path forward for the GOP is to reject Trumpism. (cue "Lincoln Project")

Of course, with your incessant attacks on all Trump supporters, you are uniquely terrible at making a convincing case ;).
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