Yeah that's almost exactly the same as my experience.
I've been using Shimano "wide fit", but still had to go way up in size because of taper at the front. The excessive length puts the cleat too far forward. I can come down at least one EU size with the Lakes.
I've been using Shimano "wide fit", but still had to go way up in size because of taper at the front. The excessive length puts the cleat too far forward. I can come down at least one EU size with the Lakes.