Just so I'm hearing you correctly. Monty can use stats to prove she's a strong runner with her 1:20 half time. I can use stats from Kona to also disprove that theory (3:08:09; 3:05:50; 3:05:59). But only monty's points are valid? Is she improving, maybe she is, but it's not reflecting in the actual races. Which is where it counts and is this discussion point. (But as I said, she's going to get better in the run, I'm just not sure what the big deal with saying she's not a "strong runner"....*at this point**).
But if your on the "strong runner" bandwagon too, then you'd suggest it's a case of over biking?
So she needs to only be 2 mins up on the fastest runner(s) in the field and that she's going to go toe to toe with them for 20+ miles? That's what your suggesting?
ETA: But see I just disagree with monty if he says something. I dont make petty ass insults added to the conversation like he does continously in discussions. I've used nothing but stats, just as he does. He's added the pettiness to somehow add to the discussion. I said the 2nd thing "we just agree to disagree" and then he has to add things like you'd probaly coach her to blah blah blah to get her run better, or "your changing your tune". Bull fucking shit I've not changed my tune. i've said from the get go I dont see this run speed that you guys see in races. And mind you I've said her run is going to get better, she's very young and those marathons are going to improve with her ability to just get better with training etc. She's racing girls that are what 5-8 years older than her....She's a "youngin", and if that's the only reason why she's not a strong runner in the marathon...fine. But right now we are talking her tactics and I can't use her being a strong IM runner into the tactics. Maybe in 3 years, but not right now.
Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II
But if your on the "strong runner" bandwagon too, then you'd suggest it's a case of over biking?
So she needs to only be 2 mins up on the fastest runner(s) in the field and that she's going to go toe to toe with them for 20+ miles? That's what your suggesting?
ETA: But see I just disagree with monty if he says something. I dont make petty ass insults added to the conversation like he does continously in discussions. I've used nothing but stats, just as he does. He's added the pettiness to somehow add to the discussion. I said the 2nd thing "we just agree to disagree" and then he has to add things like you'd probaly coach her to blah blah blah to get her run better, or "your changing your tune". Bull fucking shit I've not changed my tune. i've said from the get go I dont see this run speed that you guys see in races. And mind you I've said her run is going to get better, she's very young and those marathons are going to improve with her ability to just get better with training etc. She's racing girls that are what 5-8 years older than her....She's a "youngin", and if that's the only reason why she's not a strong runner in the marathon...fine. But right now we are talking her tactics and I can't use her being a strong IM runner into the tactics. Maybe in 3 years, but not right now.
Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II
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B_Doughtie: Oct 14, 19 12:10