For sure. Now that the winter is over i am trying a lot (test driving on the winter trainer first). As last season went on, moved my saddle forward (zero offset saddle), raised the saddle a touch, i put on a -17 degree stem, then near slammed my stem. It started to feel a fit cramped using the drops with brakes, so i am backing my bar height up again 5-10mm, and will soon add 20cm to my stem.

In an attempt to become informed (and to help guide me to a good fitter) i have recently been reading Dan’s road bike fit articles. Of interest i came in his range of averages for bar drop (actually i was lower there... this the decision to trial a bit higher), saddle to trough.

Saddle setback i think is low, but i also use a pretty long lupina saddle, so i think it throws off my numbers.

I was also reviewing S. Hoggs approach on the topic, and i wonder if i am one of those freaks of nature with saddle offset. Too far back and i struggled. But the more forward the better. I found a good spot on my trainer, but of my race bike with the lupina, i can balance with ease all day long with near zero saddle offset.

I can naturally get pretty low too. And my limb proportions are pretty normal (mirror test).

I think what i need to focus most on now if a position that it functionally more ideal (power output, and R knee pain).