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Re: Velosense [Tom A.]
Tom A. wrote:
Slowman wrote:


i HATE that product. that isn't a steering damper. it's a steering inhibitor. but it does bring to mind something about steering geometry. i find that over the years a lot of bike makers think intuitively but in so doing choose a solution that requires counterintuitive thinking. the steering in tri bikes should not be slow. it should be reasonably quick. not superquick, road race quick, but semi-quick, as in 59mm to 60mm of trail. when you get buffeted, and have to countersteer to overcome a change in steering torque, you need to be able to react quickly. the bike needs to respond quickly.

it's intuitive to think that a quick responding bike is less stable, more prone to speed wobble, but i find that a system's stiffness is what avoids speed wobble, rather than its tendency to self-center thru jamming in a bunch of trail.


On the subject of speed wobbles...check this out: https://vimeo.com/213107209

That looks somewhat interesting as well...

i'm always interested in new products that fix problems. but i still maintain that if a system (frame, fork, stem, etc.) is sufficiently stiff, and the bike is made remotely properly, speed wobble shouldn't happen.

here's damon's famous speed wobble inducement video:



i wonder if cane creek resorted to this for their video? and what would happen if they did that same thing with the damping headset installed?

Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Last edited by: Slowman: Oct 3, 18 15:04

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