SH wrote:
This is just going round and round. I explain my point -- which is about a certain type of response to a certain kind of hypocrisy. You want to get back to "nothing wrong with pointing out hypocrisy". I tried to explain how your position does fall short under certain conditions -- maybe better elaborated in replies to others -- but either you just don't get it or you absolutely disagree. Actually, I guess, it's somehow both.Okay, let's just be simplistic and clear, then. No hyperbole - just trying to understand each other.
You said:
"1.) If they hold their old position then they are idiots"
Me ==> Sure
"2.) If they move towards your position then they are hypocrits."
Me ==> Yes
"That's a nice little game to play. But when you complain like you are, it sounds like you're more upset about getting your butt kicked in elections because the right didn't keep to its old position than you are about the evolution of the position towards your preferences."
When you complain like you are - What exactly do you think I'm complaining about?
Are you saying you think lefties are upset because the GOP moved to the left to win an election, and so basically the lefties are whining because they were outmaneuvered?
Are you also saying you think lefties should not be upset because the GOP moved leftward, and so any complaints by lefties are complaints about their team losing rather than about issues?
Am I encapsulating your argument correctly?
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swimwithstones: Jun 14, 18 12:19