My point which has been lost in the midst of getting caught up in tackling apologists, is that I would let Weiss and Sutton, broadly speaking, get on with their lives, but if you decide you want to call one out, you better be whiter than white in the company you keep, or you can legitimately be called a hypocrite

Sutton did something two decades ago for which he will be both publicly and privately criticised and he has to live with it, as do his family, and his clients

Weiss did something alleged by a third party and he has to live with it

Neither needs to apologise to me, or anyone else, but it seems many are quick to get on the crucifixion band wagon and they may not have right on their side

I am not holding myself up as some arbiter of truth.

For example, my problem with lance was never thank he cheated, he worked within the system he was in. My problem - as if he cares- was the subsequent behaviour towards others.

That said. I take your point. I've made my point. I'm done.