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Re: For the majority, when does engine size become the limiter? [mortysct]
mortysct wrote:
Interesting question. I'm 23 year old, top of pack in most races I enter but nowhere near elite (raced Lisa Nordén in a short race, 800/14/3,3k and was 4 minutes behind her. During her plantar fascitis..) Last winter I had a minor knee surgery and couldnt bike for 2 weeks and run for 4. When I came back I couldnt run for 2 km straight. I did 400m repeats at 5:30/k pace. 4 weeks later I did my first 5k tests and managed 23 minutes. This was on running twice weekly (which I still do). I was swimming 400LCM in 6:20 something.

Now a good year later without any real setbacks (worst was the flu and some annoying shin problems) I swim a 400LCM in 5:40, my FTP is problably somewhere at 4w/kg and my open 5k is probably around 19. I dont even feel like I'm close to my potential. I've been into endurance sports, transitioning from martial arts and gym training, for 2-3 years now. My first tri was 2011 and with only bike training and I did a 1:22 sprint.

I cannot for my life understand why a healthy male would plateu - genetically - at 19k/3,75w/kg ftp/6:30 500y. Its just too mediocre. For females I can believe it. The general weekend warrior has so much potential to tap into if they would be allowed a few years (say 4, an olympic cycle) of elite training with training camps, weekly massages, qualified coaches, good equipment, motivating people around them etc. I'll say for a healthy male to NOT reach these numbers with 4 good years of training would be suprising and certainly an outlier on the low end of the bell curve.


I can show you 10 guys in the local triclub, healthy males 20-40, who can't break 23 in a 5k despite training with legit intensity and reasonable volume for an AGer for running.

Similarly, ask the guy who runs 17s with almost no training, and he can't fathom why any healthy male cant win the state championship with serious training. Not an exaggeration - I've met a few guys who PR in the 15s, and with minimal training run 17-18mins for casual 5k fun runs, and that's exactly how they feel - because they can run a state-level, they can't fathom why nobody else can do it since 17s are so friggin' easy for them..

Using oneself as the benchmark for the entire bell curve never works.
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