no worries people, it was just an old bike. but it did feel good to ride the bike when i was looking at the road and not it at it at least. not sure what i wanna do now by way of aero as i'm undecided, even calling and cancelling the fit at BWF for those Jammers which i checked out yesterday, clip ons. again, not sure and surprisingly not too worried any longer about the bike, i'm still more than satisfied with my current Tarmac, in fact i appreciate her a whole lot more now.

and I haven't in any way lost any hope, if nothing else I've gained more of it. thanks though.

Rapp, what were those goggles you recommended to someone on here a few weeks back?

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