Oh the irony.
I returned to ST seeking a refuge from the news these days. Everything in the news and on my social media is so contentious with meanness, stupidity, science denial, fake news, and righteous indignation.
So I return to ST and see a thread on crank length, a topic on which I have an interest and might have something to contribute. And what did I find in that thread? Meanness, stupidity, science denial, fake news, and righteous indignation.
I guess the only refuge is to be off line.
Here's the deal,
In spite of 6-10 threads and a combined post count of at least a thousand, this isn't about crank arm length..AT ALL, it's about safety...and Dave's possible desire to buy a new bike.
IIRC it was back in the Diamond back thread before all this started I told dave that due to lower BB drop and shorter FC he will have to go away from 200's due to safety, basically he would bottom out or hit the front wheel with toe overlap and things that would happen would be worse than say "not tightening your seat post" or "putting your large front chain ring on backwards".
So this year or next he will buy a new bike, simply because based on some of the original pics...he has scary stem stack (fork spacers) and that will only get worse....by the time he settles on position that stack or perhaps according leverage on the steerer tube would be REALLY bad. IE dangerous, IE I wouldn't ride it.
So...back to the thread(s)....in most reasonable threads people who don't know come on here, get reasonable advise from say 10-20 people and some odd stuff from 1-2 (IE tire choice etc) most "reasonable" people look at the arguments, perhaps science behind that and make "reasonable and appropriate decisions based on said input.
To be fair Dave is wired very differently...IE I don't think he's a Troll, I honestly believe that he believes his version of reality to be true. He is not targeting one person (IE AC trolls) or selling shit. Basically he thinks he is right. But for some to think or validate that they are right they have this innate desire for everyone else to disagree with them.
So Dave is faced with a CR of 175 or under, because of what comes stock with new bikes. I predict this year or next Dave will be riding a very large (New) disc brake bike (Andean) with CR of 165-175 (simply because Dave is too cheap to buy after market) reasonable seat height and angle and fork spacers which don't scare the shit out of me.
Anyways, IMO the threads have been interesting and of good value...some of your links have made be go back and re-read the research (and then get stuck in the rabbit hole of google and other papers) some of Dave Luscan and Trents posts on the "holistic" nature of fit have, and should be looked at. I think most of ST is seeing or perhaps learning a bit from these.
Given Slowmans passion for correct fit and value for what you get from a fitter I find his absence interesting.
Anyways just my 2c