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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [baliman] [ In reply to ]
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Nice bike! I just received my Grail as well.

They do 1x now?
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Diabolo] [ In reply to ]
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depending on model... yes
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Orbilius] [ In reply to ]
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Nice ride! Reminds me of my road frame :)

What handlebars are those? They look like Cervelo, but not sure
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [nickvas] [ In reply to ]
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They are the Cervelo AB-04 bars. I have them on another bike and love them.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Orbilius] [ In reply to ]
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that's a quiver killer

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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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that's a quiver killer

I tried that with a Parlee XD... didn't quite work so it's going full gravel and I'm bought another road bike.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [spntrxi] [ In reply to ]
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what made it deficient on the road?

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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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I'm looking for a budget 650B wheelset for my Open UP. I currently ride a 700 wheelset that is Hed belgium plus rims with DT Swiss 350 center lock hubs.

Opinions on the Hunt, Mason X Hunt 650 Adventure sport disc wheelset? I am thinking I would put something like the gravel king SK in either 43 or 48mm.

I have also looked at the Easton EA70 AX disc wheelset. They are a little heavier than the Hunt wheels but also wider. The price is a bit higher for the Eastons but they are still only around $500.

Appreciate the input.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [RyanB] [ In reply to ]
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I have sram rails and Stan’s ZTR flows. Both are great rugged wheel sets with wide internal width and can be had for a deal new or on eBay. I bought all my 650b wheelsets used since their value has cratered post boost spacing.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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My new Crux on its maiden voyage this morning!



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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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MarkyV wrote:
what made it deficient on the road?

el dropo .. .

it has some weight and tire compromises for offload that just fry me with the fast guys. Another pure (aero) road bike was always in the plan anyways to be honest.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [RyanB] [ In reply to ]
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RyanB wrote:
I'm looking for a budget 650B wheelset for my Open UP. I currently ride a 700 wheelset that is Hed belgium plus rims with DT Swiss 350 center lock hubs.

Opinions on the Hunt, Mason X Hunt 650 Adventure sport disc wheelset? I am thinking I would put something like the gravel king SK in either 43 or 48mm.

I have also looked at the Easton EA70 AX disc wheelset. They are a little heavier than the Hunt wheels but also wider. The price is a bit higher for the Eastons but they are still only around $500.

Appreciate the input.

if you are going to go 43+... atleast get 24 internal width....more is even better actually. I have the Easton's you mention and Enve G27s. I hardly use my Easton's... I should sell them.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [spntrxi] [ In reply to ]
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I don’t have the budget for Enves right now.

Having both it makes sense you would be mostly riding the Enve wheelset. What do you think of the Easton wheels? Good for the price?
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [RyanB] [ In reply to ]
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I don’t have the budget for Enves right now.

Having both it makes sense you would be mostly riding the Enve wheelset. What do you think of the Easton wheels? Good for the price?

Yes I do think they are good for the price.. I have Donnelly MSO 650bx42 on them for the days I need traction on mud clearance. My enve's get WTB Byways. My only neg would be weight ... high 1600g. The XD driver is kinda pricey at around $70+ as well.. compared to what I can find DT Swiss for. Nothing compared to Industry9 though... their XD driver free hub is so overpriced but not in ChrisKings league.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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Recent rides have included sustained not-small gradients, sometimes on very nasty loose rocky unpaved surfaces.



I got tired of having to muscle up the steepest spots in a huge gear like 24-28, so I decided to upgrade my cheapo allroad drivetrain to the ultimate cheapo allroad drivetrain.

Previous cassette:

11-13-15-18-21-24-28

New cassette:

11-13-15-18-21-24-28-32

Chainrings remain the same as before, 48-38-24.

So I get some bonus low-end without giving anything up.
Also, since the middle ring has access to a lower gear than before, I don't need to bail to the tiny ring as often. That's nice, because 38->24 is a dramatic shift!



The first problem I ran into was that the Alivio M410 derailleur had insufficient wrap. Easy solution: a newer Alivio T4000 derailleur is rated for 45 teeth of wrap, exactly what my drivetrain uses. That new pulley cage is huge!



The first problem that I almost had, but actually made things easier, was chain length. A new 116-link chain was perfectly sized right out of the box!

The second problem that I had was was chain clearance. The large cog is farther inboard than before. In the small-big, the chain was interfering with both the tire and fender.
Solution: push the chainline farther outboard! (And since the NDS arm is farther outboard than it needs to be, I might as well bring it inboard at the same time.)

The old BB has a 118mm spindle. The new BB has a 115mm spindle...



...plus a huge drive-side spacer!



I've pushed the DS outboard by 2.5mm while brinding the NDS inboard by 5.5mm. Seems to get the job done.

The remaining problem: I haven't quite dialed in the FD adjustment. The shifting is very crisp, but the chain is intermittently being thrown off the inside on downshifts to the small ring, and neither pedaling form nor feathering the shifter seem to offer a consistent solution. Since the chain isn't jamming on the bottom run when this happens, I might just see if a simple chain keeper makes the problem disappear.

Bike:


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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [brando] [ In reply to ]
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Trying out the new 3T Exploro Pro GRX:



Swapped the Praxis crank for GRX (and Wheels Mfg BB), and the Fulcrum wheels for...GRX! (I am kind of a Shimano fanboy). The slightly wider q-factor of the GRX compared to Shimano road (R7000, 8000, etc) allows the use of a Stages power meter on this frame!



One thing to note about the GRX crankset on this and other 386EVO or similar frames - I dropped my chain to the inside of the chainring in some wet slop yesterday, and the chain actually got caught underneath the mounts for the inner ring, and the largeness of the BB area prevented it come easily coming back out.



Took me 20 minutes to figure out the issue and then gently work the chain around and out. So I'm going to either put something on the inner ring mounts to keep this from happening and/or add a chain catcher to the FD mounts.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [brando] [ In reply to ]
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Shininess begins at the bottom bracket. If the bottom bracket is not shiny, the bicycle cannot look shiny. Probably.



In the frame, with a spacer to offset the spindle (short NDS to reduce q-factor):



brando wrote:
One thing to note about the GRX crankset on this and other 386EVO or similar frames - I dropped my chain to the inside of the chainring in some wet slop yesterday, and the chain actually got caught underneath the mounts for the inner ring, and the largeness of the BB area prevented it come easily coming back out.
Yeah, I saw a jam like that happen on a friend's Diverge. There are a lot of ways for a chain to jam in the BB area, but that's one of the nastier ones.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [HTupolev] [ In reply to ]
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A friend at work is a 3d printing enthusiast and we printed a small guide for the inner mounting holes of the GRX crankset to keep the chain from dropping into this recess:





Also added the Wolftooth chain guide to keep the chain on in the first place when it gets really bouncy or muddy.
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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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2019 Trek Checkpoint SL6. Size 54, ENVE handlebar and rest of the bike Upgraded with Ultegra and Dura Ace components. DT Swiss R470 wheels are nothing to cry home over been they have been fine. 40mm Hutchison tubeless tires. Clearance for well over 50mm.





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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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Just built my first, so I have something "road-like" to get me through Michigan Winters; I never really fell in love with MTBs, although I have a couple and will occasionally ride them.

I've always like Van Dessel bikes, and I got a great deal on this frame on Ebay. Had to pick up some wheels for it (also Ebay), but the rest is built up with mostly odds and ends I had laying around (mostly 105 10-speed components, and some TRP Spyre brakes).

Probably have about $500 into it, but it's quickly becoming one of my favorite bikes to ride when I'm not doing dedicated training or racing.


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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [dpd3672] [ In reply to ]
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My holiday Orbea Terra M20-D-1x. Lots of fun to ride...




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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone ride an On One Free Ranger? Looks sweet.

https://www.planetx.co.uk/...m-rival1-gravel-bike

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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [Broken Leg Guy] [ In reply to ]
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Looks good, do you know much about it? Is the frame 2x capable?

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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Looks good, do you know much about it? Is the frame 2x capable?


I don’t know much about it other than looking at the website. It looks like you can buy frame only so I assume it’s 1x and 2x compatible.

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Re: Gravel Bike Porn [brando] [ In reply to ]
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Had some gorgeous rides this last week. :D





I didn't plan for the snow on that one. These 2.1" slicks are wonderful on rocky aggregate and paved roads, but wallowed and slipped badly on this snow. An interesting learning experience on mountainous double-track... as I tried to figure out how to use my foot as a stabilizer and drag brake while straddling the top tube, thoughts of "a dropper post wouldn't go amiss right now" bounced around my head.


brando wrote:
A friend at work is a 3d printing enthusiast and we printed a small guide for the inner mounting holes of the GRX crankset to keep the chain from dropping into this recess:

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Also added the Wolftooth chain guide to keep the chain on in the first place when it gets really bouncy or muddy.

Ooooh, that's really neat!

I did something vaguely similar with my bike. The bolts for the small chainring aren't recessed, the heads sit proud of the ring. So if the chain dropped off the inside and I tried to shift it back onto the rings, the bolt heads would do stupid things like pick up the lower run of the chain (acting like the pins on modern big rings) and jam things up. The small chainring has a bunch of smaller holes on it, so I stuck a pentagon of zip ties in there to keep the chain pushed away from the bolt heads. Bizarrely, it actually worked.



I've since installed a Deda Dog Fang on the bike and (fingers crossed) haven't experienced any drops since. I haven't bothered removing the zip ties, though.
Last edited by: HTupolev: Dec 29, 19 14:55
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