Still a tribe, the only difference is back then we were a Peaceful Tribe.

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All I Wanted Was A Pepsi, Just One Pepsi

Team Zoot, Team Zoot Mid-Atlantic

i think you just need to look at his partners and you see this would not work
as he said in a trisport thread he does not want to be a competitor with shops as it is the shops that mainly attend his bike fitting camps ,
i would think that one of the reasons he is president of triathlon business is that he is seen as a more neutral person that brings people togheter and is more interested to grow the cake rather than getting a bigger slice of the cake.

At the same time I guess you are right many smaller tri forums feeling the pressure from facebook groups.

PK,

^^^ I think you nailed it. Good call. ^^^

I guess this puts more pressure on Thomas G to put a team together.

The James Haycraft thread over here got me thinking. Why on earth is there NOT a Team Slowtwitch??? It seems that most of the teams exist to promote a brand and the team members get access to highly discounted product in return. Slowtwitch is a brand with Facebook being arguably the greatest competition going forward - some Facebook groups already have teams going like the Pathetics group. Dan has arguably the most connections in the business and should have considerable pull in getting to work with sponsors that Slowtwitch users would want to work with.


Tom,

You and I discussed this privately earlier this year.

I really question the validity of these types of teams. Already, almost EVERY cyclist and triathlete in North America is eligible for some form of at minimum 15% discount for something - member of a club/team/association, entered in a race/event, etc . . It's important to understand that, that 15% is most retailers margin and a huge chunk of the wholesale margin - and it's just default being given away.

Now, let me be clear, discounting when used specifically and strategically, as a marketing/promotional tool can be VERY effective in creating sales and driving business. BUT, when it's so pervasive, wide-spread and a default thing in a whole business, then the goal-posts in the whole business has been moved!

The bike/tri business is in some challenging times right now. In fact, John Burke the CEO of Trek recently said in a speech, that if you are above being 3.5% DOWN in the business, you are doing well!!

It's got to the point that many consumers in the bike/tri business, feel like they are being ripped off, when they are paying MSRP or even paying that now default 15% off, at retail and they are demanding even greater discounts all the time!!

Good read here from Bike Business veteran Rick Vosper - https://www.linkedin.com/...ou-offf-rick-vosper/ - "No, Your Bike Shop Is Not Ripping You Off"

So, where I would start with the discussions with these Elite Triathlon Teams or ANY triathlon club/team is what purpose are they serving?

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Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog

I didn't think about anything on the back, sorry

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

I like Team Cobra Ki...ley or Team Yippie Ki Ley Mutha Fucka

Here are some kit ideas;


https://www.teepublic.com/...958-cobra-kai-johnny


https://www.rowsdowr.com/...296af900b120b0771d4/

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http://www.sfuelsgolonger.com

Seriously - I consider any triathlete I see at the local races who's rocking FLO carbon wheels part of team ST. Where else would one find out about FLO wheels? (Ok, a few in BT.com, but mostly ST.)

i will host a team, under 2 conditions:

1. some folks among you all run it. you, for example, thomas. happy to have you run it.
2. there is a good reason to have it. a compelling reason that would make me want to join my own team.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

There have to be roles for Trash Talk and maybe R10C.

Hotman will coach the team.

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Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly

I don't care who does what. I hope someone mandates that the kits MUST have only the athlete's ST username on it.

I'm content supporting my local tri team, but I would love to be able to buy a ST t-shirt (cotton preferred) that I would wear at every race so I could connect face to face with others proud to wear the ST brand on their chest and promote ST to the multisport masses.

I'd like it if Slowtwitch will sponsor my very very small 1 person team for next year. Maybe for a discount on the annual membership fee?

In return, I promise to rock the logo and never use capitalization.

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Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly

That is what the ST tattoo is for. /pink

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Oui, mais pas de femme toute de suite (yes, but I am not ready for a woman straight away) -Stephen Roche's reply when asked whether he was okay after collapsing at the finish in the La Plagne stage of the 1987 Tour

This. I would be more likely to join a Team Gerlach than a Slowtwitch team. Gerlach is always a good guy whereas some people REALLY don't like other people on ST and make it known.

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Indoor Triathlete - I thought I was right, until I realized I was wrong.

Here's the official logo to be rocked:

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Travis Rassat
Vector Cycle Works
Noblesville, IN
BikeFit Instructor | FMS | F.I.S.T. | IBFI
Toughman Triathlon Series Ambassador

let me know when yall get these hats made and ill paypal whoever the money haha.

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2x Deca-Ironman World Cup (10 Ironmans in 10 days), 2x Quintuple Ironman World Cup (5 Ironmans in 5 days), Ultraman, Ultra Marathoner, and I once did an Ironman.

Am I on the team if I have a ST kit in Zwift? It is the only reason I get any thumbs-up....

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Hillary Trout
San Luis Obispo, CA

Your trip is short. Make the most of it.
https://www.slogoing.net/

how do you unlock the ST kit?

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the world's still turning? >>>>>>> the world's still turning

Will there be a team LR---or will that merely be a warring faction, the dark underbelly as-it-were?

Maybe add an AR-15 and an LGBT rainbow to their special version of the kit.

There will be a LR group, but they don't race. They'll just go to the pub and argue about guns.

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Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly

We wouldn't really need equipment discounts, perhaps we just meet up after races and argue with each other in person.

A list of topics can be published prior to each year so athletes can also take their post race debate into consideration when picking their race schedule.

Enter the promo code SLOWTWITCH.

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Travis Rassat
Vector Cycle Works
Noblesville, IN
BikeFit Instructor | FMS | F.I.S.T. | IBFI
Toughman Triathlon Series Ambassador

Oh Oh oh! Post race seminars:

The Scientific method - how to talk like you use it without generating any meaningful data whatsoever
Sock Puppets for forum members
Technique vs. Propulsion - how to avoid getting faster in the water