Wow.

WOW. Still unbelievable to me that someone could actually go through with doing something like that. She does need some SERIOUS help.

Compared to so many who never admit, I give her big kudo's for standing up and taking ownership. We can all make mistakes in life and we all struggle to find the reasons why, since no one ever thinks they are a bad person.

I wish her the best of luck dealing with the demons she is struggling with.

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That is a bit of a surprising fall on the sword. Certainly she needs help. IF the pressure/cause of the eating disorder was the cause of this poor decision/action then we should all wish her the best in getting her mental health back on track, and then welcome her back into our community.

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The fact that she has admitted her wrongdoing, showed contrition, and is seeking help shows me a lot. If her statement is true I would be inclined to eventually welcome her back into the sport after a lengthy suspension and she is once again healthy.

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x2, I do hope she gets the help she needs and wants. The suspension length should, as a minimum be the same as dopers. 4 years.

+1. No one is perfect, but realizing it is hard.

I don't believe her.
This is the thing about cheaters and liars. They are willing to say anything to get out of trouble.
She may be even telling the truth but she has lost credibility and benefit of doubt.

No more criminal charges? Pickforks down now?

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I guess the "thought it was a friend's bike and I was just releasing air pressure for her" didn't take wings?

Kudos for taking responsibility, but this sounds alot like TigerWoods voluntary 'seeking treatment for sexual addiction'.
No way she will stay on the sidelines for long. If not tri, local 10k roadraces.

I want to believe her but I have to say I agree. The fact that she called it an "impulsive" decision shows she has a long way to to truly admitting to her problems. There was nothing impulsive about this.

They generally don't admit that they did it. Which she has done. What more do you want?

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Well said, best possible outcome. I hope she figures herself out.

Her apology should be accepted, but she should still face the consequences of her actions. We all need forgiveness for the things we've done wrong in our lives. I hope she finds the help she needs.

I agree. In her statement she could either admit or deny, deny, deny. It doesn't excuse what she did, but I certainly appreciate that she admitted wrongdoing. Did Julie Miller every admit to cheating? Or the 'Boston Marathon Dad'?

She knowingly jeopardized the safety of another competitor.
This was calculated and premeditated, by her own admission.

Lifetime ban from WTC/USAT.

USATF, USAC, and USS should be made aware of her.

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I have made no arguments about penalty. I think she should have a lengthy ban. But she admitted it, which these people never seem to do. They always double and triple down on the lies.

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My thoughts exactly.......being a man or woman and owning your mistake especially after all that transpired is the first step to changing.....doesn't make the act any less heinous though. Probably still shouldn't be allowed to compete.

Human sacrifice.




Glad to hear she's seeking help and hope she does well with her treatment/recovery.


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This.... +1.

x1 Admitting her actions puts her way ahead of the other cheaters who continue to deny what they did. For this reason, I truly wish her the best, but I must draw the line when it comes to welcoming her back to this sport. Forgiveness does not mean she should be able to race again and there are many other activities in life to which she can apply her talents. I am sticking with my position that she should be banned for life.

x2. She damn well knew who's bike she was messing with (a former pro that was probably the toughest competitor in her AG). I also don't buy the "pressure to perform" line. Who's pressuring her? This is an amateur sport. It's not like she's 15 or 16 competing as an amateur trying to land a college scholarship or work her way into pro racing.

I'm still in favor of a lifetime ban from the sport.

It's a half-assed apology. She apologized but she diverted the blame to another mental condition that may or may not be true. I really don't care since it won't have any bearing to my life. But she jeapirdized another persons life and undermined months of hard training the other athlete did.

A real apology would be to drive to the victims house and beg for forgiveness. That's the only person she should be sorry to.

She is getting a lengthy ban otherwise.

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Glad she owned the mistake but this was not an impulsive decision.

An impulsive decision would be purchasing a bag of skittles at the checkout when you've just circled the store and filled your cart full of fruits and veggies.


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A lot of you are saying this wasn't impulsive, but in order to come to that conclusion don't you have to assume premeditation? Totally plausible she scouted the competition, worked to be fit, and then doubted herself on race day and had a breakdown of sorts. For me, doubling down on her excuse initially and then this message to Herbert makes me believe that she isn't in good mental health and made very poor decisions even more than I did before.

And if you haven't ever experienced eating issues, they can really mess you up...on top of how bad of a mental state you have to be to even get there in the first place.



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You mean she "could have jeopardized ...". My understanding is that race officials repumped the tire and the other competitor was not hindered in any shape or form and had no idea anything had happened.

I agree with King Midas.

And if you want to correct him, it would be to say "she intentionally attempted to jeopardize..."

First we should determine if she is a witch...

Given her history that has been reported I sincerely doubt this act was "impulsive" and mental illness does not excuse a premeditated act. A good long suspension from triathlon is in order and just keep her in Canada for a while too. Can we find a way to blame her for Bieber as well?

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I am not defending the perp and I have no problem with "intentionally attempted to jeopardize". However, it is important to be factually correct and not insinuate that the other competitor did end up racing on soft tires and had months of hard training ruined...didn't happen. Please see my earlier post in this thread standing by my call for a lifetime ban.

Glad to read she confessed and is seeking help to become a better person. Agree that she should still have to serve a penalty.

How about a 2 year suspension and 100 hours of volunteer services at races?

I agree. Her actions in Syracuse were disgusting but I respect that she is "woman enough" to stand up and say "I did it, it was stupid, and I have no excuse". That's better than all the drug cheats who claim a "supplement" was the source of their banned substance and make all these wild excuses

This is more along the lines I was thinking for the penalty. People murder and they are out in 4-5 years. Although this could have resulted in a serious injury, it is hardly on par with murder. As a person who has a history of mental illness, I know I have made poor decisions (although nothing as bizarre as this). If it wasn't for a loving, understanding wife who is always at my side to correct me, I would use bad judgement in alot of instances past, present and future. I am glad she has come clean and I give her credit for that. She should serve the appropriate penalty and when she is well both mentally and physically, I have no problem welcoming her back into the sport.

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You don't know that she "intentionally attempted to jeopardize another person's life" and it's almost certain that she did not. The intent was most likely just to slow her down, not to harm her. In fact adding "intentionally attempted to" make the statement even more incorrect as it adds the notion of intent, that the initial statement, at least, did not have.

I'll see your 2 years and raise to 4:)

Kudos to her for admitting her mistake. It's a better tact than the OJ Simpson model of deny, deny, deny.

While I wish her well with her treatment, and hope that she lives a long healthy life as a productive member of Canadian (not American) society, I would not welcome her back to triathlon.

Actions have consequences. Strong examples need to be made. We can't all be looking over our shoulders in transition and worrying about this kind of crap. The FOP end of this sport already has a problem with cheaters that grab the scarce Kona slots and awards others deserve. I am sure her actions have made a few people think about similar things they could do if no one is watching.

This woman needs to stay away from organized triathlon. Doing so voluntarily would show some real character.

How's this: "She intentionally attempted to undermine months of hard training the other athlete did."

I agree that she had no intent to cause physical harm to the other athlete (although there is a small chance that her actions could have done that). But what she 100% had intent to do, was to undermine the other athlete's months of hard training and sacrifice. And when you think about the countless hours that you have to put into bike training to gain, say, 5 minutes on the bike in a 70.3, to have that ruined by a competitor deflating your tire pressure is really upsetting to think about.

This is outstanding and a great start to getting fixed. Interestingly, you can still see she hasn't taken 100% ownership of it being her own fault. That bolded line should read instead, "I created so much pressure on MYSELF to perform." Nobody was making her do triathlon. Worded as it is, the implication is still blame to forces outside herself and she's a victim, too.

Still, a thumbs up for moving in the right direction.

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Being under pressure to perform means you do bad things purely related to yourself (doping, course cutting etc.) but doing something to another athlete has nothing to do with your own performance. Shame on her!

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I'm very surprised that we're still falling for these fake apologies. I'm sorry but every time an athlete gets busted for wrongdoing the same happens. They deny, then wait a day of two, and once they see that there's too much proof against them, then issue a fake apology.

Not buying it. Sorry. This girl is not only a cheater but a danger for the sport itself and I have 0 sympathy for her. If Ironman started issuing lifetime bans, things would change in the sport very quickly.

Please see the "if" in my post.

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Can you imagine all the stuff she's pulled in life/sport that she hasn't been caught doing??.Theft of $$ and deflating tires are likely only tip of iceberg. I teach HS and once and awhile a kid comes along who scares the crap out of me....in terms of utter lack of moral compass and character. They walk out of here after graduation and I almost shudder to think whats in store for an unsuspecting community from the likes of these people . Thankfully they are rare cases ((for the most part)

I agree with the if. But i don't agree with certainly she needs help. In my book what she needs is a good and lengthy ban. I'm starting to get a little tired of a society in which everyone is a victim of either a. somebody else, b. their own demons and need some kind of help. How about you cheated, you face consequences. Simple as that.

And regardless of the eating disorder or whatever she has (IF true), I still think that somebody needs to be made the example and both in the Pros or in AG somebody will have to be the first one to get the lifetime ban and then people will second guess themselves a bit when trying to pull off this kind of crap.

Agree, this may be the tip of the iceberg. Based on this I would probably show up and do an out of competition doping test just to see if there is anything else going on.

I find this behavior much more despicable than something like "Finman", yet it's amazing how much more hatred and vitriol Finman got as a BOPer than the # of comments on this thread.

They generally don't admit that they did it. Which she has done. What more do you want?


Unfortunately, some people ALWAYS want more . . and more . . and more. It never ends for them! :(

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I'm curious what people think about the implied accusation cast in the original thread now that she apologized and said this was an impulsive decision?

A poster stated that his wife biked much slower than anticipated on an executed wattage plan when racing against Ms. Johnson. The obvious implication was that there might have been some foul play with tire pressure in that race as well. I'm not looking for her to lay out all her life-long transgressions but if this is not the first time she has done something like this she needs to be banned for life...no matter what her apology says.

For her 100 hours as a volunteer, she could be assigned to patrol the transition area making sure no one is letting air out of another athlete's tires?

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Carry on...

The obvious implication was that there might have been some foul play with tire pressure in that race as well. I'm not looking for her to lay out all her life-long transgressions but if this is not the first time she has done something like this she needs to be banned for life...no matter what her apology says. //

I suspect that there is a lot more to her checkered history than we know, and it was not impulsive. Impulsive is when a friend of mine flats on a two loop bike course while leading a race, takes 10 minutes to fix, then just decides to jump back in on the 2nd loop where he was on the first one and continue the race like nothing happened. He did not plan this, but in the spur of the moment he chose not to do the right thing, competition does that to some people. Their brains don't work like ours do and justification comes in many forms. This gals is the worst and she just needs to be out of sport at this level.


As for the eating disorder, I have known a ton of ladies with this, some were pro triathletes who never came close to making a bad decision in regards to race morality. It is an obvious loose wire in the brain somewhere, but one does not have to lead to the other. But I can see someone who just has never really played by the rules or gone with the flow just making really bad decisions at every junction where their choices.


Let's just hope that whatever help she seeks goes to the root of the problem, if it were AA she would be failing miserably at this point..

She could be assigned to inflate the tires of the community trash trucks with a floor pump

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100% agree. In my mind there is a huge distinction between this situation and a cheat - course cutter, PED user, etc. - where the direct impact on me and my race is I may get bumped down in the standings. When you cross the line and someone is proven to have intentionally sabotaged or attempted to sabotage a competitor's race, then the penalty must be swift and severe to send a clear message to everyone that you pull this crap then you are gone for a very long time if not forever.

I appreciate that she has apologized, but it shouldn't mitigate the penalty for this particular type of offence.

I thought being under pressure to perform and win the sprint to T1 at Kona you beat up on Frodo during the final 100m sprint LOL! Of course you actually have to swim fast enough to be able to beat up on Frodo 100m from T1.

100 hours of volunteering for a "for-profit" business?

I'm a nobody and my opinion wont change anything. I'm not going to judge her apology and the validity of it by what others who have broken rules and were caught said and did. each of those aren't related to this. Ask yourself this, what does a real apology look like?

I don't now her and I don't know what her issues are or her reasons were. I have played football at a very high level when I was younger. There was a culture of what could you get away with. Some things I participated in, some I did not. Did stuff happen that could hurt others, yes. Right, no but the way it was. I wanted win, winning became all I wanted. It took years to turn off the win at almost all costs mentality. If I was willing to have done more, would the show have continued to a more lucrative thing or more prestige? I don't know. I do wonder what could have been or did I make the best choice. I just have to live with it because I cant change it. I'm glad my life wasn't consumed to that point where I did something I would regret 15 years later. I easily could have been and I cant tell you why I didn't do more. I promise it wasn't the potential punishment, I really don't know what kept me from making the other choices.

I have seen many in the papers and friends be consumed with more, the pursuit of that destroyed them. One day they will regret it or already do after they realized their error. More speed, more strength, more money, more prestige. Its addictive having the pat on the back.

I don't think she should be banned for life, I don't know how long she should be in trouble. She could have hurt someone and that's never cool. I did things that were against the rules that could have hurt someone. Chop blocks, clipping, blind side hits. Sometimes I was penalized many I wasn't. Yet, the fans cheered and I was patted on the back. I don't know if any of these caused permanent damage to people. Despite all of this I'm not a bad person. This may be a 1 off thing she did. There always is the first time someone crosses the line. If the drive to do better got so much in the way that it has caused easting disorders and other mental issues I'm glad she's seeking treatment and maybe her getting caught is a gift and a blessing. I feel bad for people who let, for most of us, a really expensive hobby take over their life where they would sacrifice their health, their family, money they don't have, their friends, and their morals just to go a little faster. What an empty life to have. I don't believe in pitty but I have danced on both sides of the line. I hope she can make amends, whatever that may be, and not have the burden of carrying it forever. I have tried to right the wrongs I have done. She owes nothing to me. I hope she can find a way to be fulfilled and not be consumed by a little faster.

The good news is no one what hurt and that's a blessing, also her being caught may help her and many others by bringing a dirty little secret of the "gamesmanship" out where it can be talked about. This happens in the name of speed and most probably never consider how it can injure someone. I didn't, I just wanted to win when I was younger

I'm all for her getting professional help, and I don't expect her to be fixed right away, but she's already lying again. This was not impulsive. It was calculated and premeditated. I have no reason to believe at this moment, that her apology is not just as calculated to help her regain as much of her image as possible in the face of insurmountable evidence and a story that has gone viral.

Eating disorders are serious business, and if she truly is suffering from it, then I hope she overcomes...but again...my gut tells me she's calculating again what she can include in her statement to help sway people back on her side. Because in truth, it's hard to get really upset at someone who is suffering from an eating disorder...right? Except that other than a doctor (who has patient confidentiality), who can actually verify she actually has an eating disorder?

Call me cynical...

Re. the various "Glad she's getting help" comments.

She attempted to hurt (slow down) another competitor. She says she's getting help with her eating disorder. She apparently made no comment re. attempting to get help re. her being a shithead that would f**k over another in a heartbeat. The eating disorder has zero to do with her being a shithead. She's distracting folks with a non sequitur and folks are getting sucked into it.

For those that imagine that she's somehow getting help for being a shithead, consider the classical ideas re. guiding and modifying human behavior.....the pain and reward of incentives. Looking back at 100k yrs of communities trying to curb asshole behavior, what has the better track record......."help" or "consequences"?

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Hey where in the above was there mention of this not endangering another person's life and being worth of a punishment in normal courts? If someone did this to a friend or family member (or even you) and that person ended up in a wheelchair (or there was a risk of that but the person did not end up maimed), it would be worthy of some sanction in normal courts outside sport.

I didn't, I just wanted to win when I was younger //

Your story is not unique, she is over 40 years old. Big difference, how old are you now old wise one? (-;

Yeah

She claims she's been suffering from an eating disorder, but getting caught fucking with another competitor's bike is the trigger to seek help? That's fishy

Granted, we don't know if she's sought help on this issue before [and she may have, it hasn't clicked yet], but if this is the first time she's thought "Hmmmm, maybe I should get myself checked out here"

Either way, let's hope she gets better

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What does an eating disorder have to do with her cheating? I don't see the connection but rather a deflection from her cheating.

I like this idea

As long as she's not allowed anywhere near the transition area...

To: Everyone waving a pitchfork and chopping wood to burn her in a fire.

Re: Check yourself.

She cheated in order to improve her position in the race. Exactly what all of you do, however inadvertently, when you grab someone's ankle in the swim, take a slingshot, spend an extra 10 seconds in a draft, or "get caught up in a pack" at races. There is not one single person on this forum who has not done something during a race to improve their situation, so move on.

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I agree. Her actions in Syracuse were disgusting but I respect that she is "woman enough" to stand up and say "I did it, it was stupid, and I have no excuse". That's better than all the drug cheats who claim a "supplement" was the source of their banned substance and make all these wild excuses

Agree. She made a stupid decision and owned up to it and is now seeking help. This type of response is rare compared to the usual "I didn't know what I was taking" excuses when athletes get caught with PEDs or people like the Boston Marathon dad or Julie Miller who double-down on their claims despite evidence showing otherwise. That said, I still think that she should serve some type of ban or sanction as a consequence of her actions and hope that her treatment goes well.

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Fair enough but what does an eating disorder have to do with her cheating? I don't see the connection but rather a deflection from her cheating. If she had just apologized I would receive it better., If she had said, I am getting mental help for my pathology of cheating I would receive it better. But to intimate that her actions were from an eating disorder - I don't receive it well. Still not accepting responsibility for her cheating.

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Yah - the "despite being an accomplished athlete" bit reveals that the narcissism is still running the show.

Gotta give her credit for the full admission. A big first step on her road to recovery. Good luck to her.

WTF?!

You really want to equate getting a slingshot (which is totally legal per the rules btw) to help your own race with INTENTIONALLY SABOTAGING ANOTHER ATHLETE'S EQUIPMENT?

You're either just trolling or a class A prick.

Not even close. She cheated in order to degrade someone else's position in the race (or eliminate them completely), and put that person's safety at risk in doing so. And if you yourself in fact grab people's ankles, you're a complete asshole and need to pick another leisure time activity.

what pressure is she talking about? She is not a pro so its not about the money, right?

Awful.

If you're going to apologise, just say sorry and don't list excuses.

If one of competitors cuts the course or dopes that undermines the hard training and sacrifice of all the other competitors in a race. Athletes who are found guilty of either are usually not banned for life the first time they are caught. Intending to cause physical harm to another athlete may be worthy of a lifetime ban, depending upon the specific act. Thinking more about it, I don't think this act is worthy of a lifetime ban, unlike what I wrote in the original thread.

Could elbowing a fellow swimmer or swimming over someone be considered an intent to cause physical harm to another athlete? I've done this more than once and my swim splits are MOP. My goal certainly wasn't to hurt anyone, but it may have given me a competitive advantage, however temporary.

Of course, there is a possible connection between an eating disorder and cheating. They can both be attempts to do whatever it takes to place higher in a race. We can all understand that mentality on some level.

Whoa. Heavy stuff!

what pressure is she talking about? She is not a pro so its not about the money, right?

Mental illness, is hard to understand and explain. People do things, that normal, rational people, really can't understand or fathom.

Why does, the successful person with the family, the great job, and home, ruin all of that and toss all of that away, with some form of drug or alcohol addiction and end up living on the street? You or I looking at it go "That's an easy choice - the street or the nice home, family and job" We'll ALWAYS go for the latter . . but we are not mentally ill!

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How about forgiveness and a permanent ban from triathlon?

I cannot help but feel for her. Yes, despicable action but she must have some pretty deep demons to feel the need to do that and perform. Unfortunate her being is wrapped up all into being a "successful athlete".. not uncommon in this sport. On lighter side, if she returns to racing, part of her penalty should be having to race on gatorskins every race here on out.

This whole debacle comes down to pressure of one sort or another..

Did you see the question marks? I was asking if you had now shifted your thoughts. Apparently not. You seem to be advocating a charge of attempted murder...seems a bit extreme. Maybe exit your soapbox for a bit and take in the real world.

I can see how it could have been impulsive. Not knowing that Sharon was going to be there seeing her and thinking "oh my God she's racing today! She might beat me! What can I do" and then just acting on that irrational panic. I also know that an eating disorder effects one's thinking. When your brain and body are starved logical and moral thinking will be lost. I have known wonderful moral women who when in the midst of this disease will lie, cheat, shoplift and look you in the eye as they deny everything.

I appreciate the admission of guilt and wish her well in recovery but would also support a ban.

If you think any of those things are even remotely comparable to tampering with another's person's bike, then maybe you should be banned from triathlon as well.

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You've intentionally elbowed or swam over someone?

Someone actually once intentionally elbowed me in a swim, cutting my eye. I was getting boxed in between two swimmers just after the start. The swimmer to my left clearly wanted to get on the feet of the swimmer to my right (who was a very strong swimmer and would likely lead the wave out of the water). The stronger swimmer to my right was a 1/4 body length ahead of me and as I was being squeezed into him by the swimmer to my left my right arm came down on his shoulder. As soon as that happened on his next left arm stroke he elbowed me hard in the eye with his left elbow. Such a douche move.

I never confronted him as I knew he would just apologise and deny it was intentional, but it clearly was. Sad thing is, we had never met but I had done him a favor a couple years earlier by getting one of his athletes (he's a local coach) a late entry to IM Florida as my company was a major sponsor at the time.

So all that to say, if you have really intentionally elbowed or swam over someone in the swim, that's pretty messed up. And FWIW, I consider the former much worse than the latter.

^this. Who the heck thinks it is Ok to grab someone's ankles during the swim? No- that is not what "all of us do". And if you do that- you suck.

Stating the obvious, when there's not enough space, relatively inconsequential contact is inevitable. Just like cycling and running on a track, that's how folks tell each other that they need more space. On the other hand, throwing an elbow hard enough to hurt someone is pretty unforgivable.

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does she think evidence of recovery from the eating disorder will cover her on the cheating problem?

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I'm going to call bullshit on this one. I've never done any of these things. I've had almost all of them done against me at a race, ok, whatever.

Not one of these things is anywhere near what she did: in my mind the cowardly, passive-aggressive version of pushing your competitor into the weeds instead of competing with them fair and square.

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I totally agree. What about that story she gave attempting to further cover up her actions when she was confronted at the bike rack, saying she was helping her friend by putting air into the tire!? If she had just 'snapped' and let the air out due to mental issues, that's one thing. But she went even further to COVER UP her actions when called out...that's two distinct mental occurrences: one to do the deed, then another to cover it up when caught.

She should have stopped at the apology. Whatever else she is claiming as an "excuse" (if we are allowing excuses into this), is not carrying any water with me to lighten her penalty. Whatever mental problems she has, I hope she spends her time working through them, and not putting her energy into triathlon, as her participation in triathlon now has clearly eroded the community that was originally accepting of her.

Permanent ban sounds great. Forgiveness?? F that

Just look at this shit from front page! Would appear that her m.o when she gets caught (exposed) is to play the mental health card. Note how the committee gave 'little weight to her new submissions re mental health' and why's that ? I am member of the same college and trust me....they do their DD when investigating members on allegations of misconduct

And that 2nd infraction -using paid Family Care Days' to go off and race- is only further evidence of what we're dealing with here. (And NO, I have never done that:)

So 'mental health issues' ?? Nah... that's just offensive to actual sufferers.

1.She was arrested in 2014 for "fraud not exceeding $5,000” and “Possession of property obtained by crime not exceeding $5,000”, and pled guilty to the latter charge. A teacher by trade, she was the subject of a disciplinary hearing held by the Ontario College of Teachers stemming from the “possession of property obtained by a crime” incident and as a result of the hearing the Committee found that her, "dishonest and illegal conduct warrants a reprimand by her peers.” The Decision noted that "The Member sought to introduce new evidence during her submissions, in the form of a medical note from her physician dated May 1… the Committee gave little weight to these submissions about the Member’s medical history…”

2. Ms. Johnson, during April of 2016, falsified her attendance record; used paid “Family Care Days” when she was not entitled to do so; provided false information about the reasons for absence from work; was absent from school to participate in the Boston Marathon, without permission.”

Because an eating disorder is actually a symptom, not a cause. She seems to be implying that an eating disorder and poor decisions, such as the one to cheat this week, are symptoms of something deeper. Unless you've wrestled with those same types of demons yourself or been closely associated with people who have, it can be difficult to understand the thought processes.

I'm glad to see someone who appears to be taking the first step in acknowledging their demons and moving on to the next step towards managing them. I wish her well.

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Look at the copyright of the picture in the story on the front page...the one of them in wetsuits before the swim. Copyright is victims husband I believe. Is the victim the one to the right of Kristen....if so, this would have been not very long after Kristen deflated her tire, and she is joking around with her before the swim?? Just making sure I am seeing this right. Ballsy.

I've thrown an elbow to stop a swimmer from swimming over me or to dissuade a swimmer from continuing to swim into me multiple times. I'm guessing elbowing someone in the head would hurt both swimmers. I've been the recipient of elbows and have been swum over. I've been kicked in the face by a swimmer after I tickled his/her feet multiple times. Physical contact like this happened routinely in tri swims I did over multiple decades where there were mass starts or large waves. It is likely not as common these days. All the tris I do now have time trial starts, maybe because of the mayhem that used to occur and was somewhat glorified.

Sincere congrats to you if you've always maintained your composure during competition.

well as my example showed, sometimes that swimmer bumping shoulders with you has someone the other side of them squeezing them into you. in my case both swimmers either side of me could have moved line slightly to give me some space. so yes, throwing an elbow in a race is a total douchebag move, because it would be v rare for another swimmer to be intentionally roughing you up. doing it many times? wow.

and thanks, yes, even when I was elbowed in the eye to the point of bleeding I kept my composure, stopped swimming for a moment and then carried on racing. ironically just before that race I had been discussing with someone how the color red can get you more fired up, and then there I was swimming with one goggle filling with blood.

I'm in no way excusing her behavior. Personally I'm in the lifetime ban camp.

However, I've heard anecdotally that extreme competitiveness is common with an eating disorder. Usually around food. People with eating disorders often love to cook then 'push' food on others, because part of the disorder feeds off the pleasure of seeing others eat while you have the willpower to resist.

Again, I don't have personal experience, but based on some stuff I've seen and read, I can see it all fitting together.

Both admissions take guts. I wish her a speedy recovery.

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Most patients in Canadian healthcare system wait weeks- months to get into facilities for treatment for addictions and other conditions. Yet she is able to accepted into a mental health facility the next day. Puzzling.

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It's only a hobby....until Chrissie Wellington enters Ultraman Hawaii, then it's a full on real life smackdown LOL :-)

• Rob: OK, I have to lift my training game for Ultraman Kona
• Mrs. Rob: Go do the groceries and take the kids to swim lessons, and get the gardening done, service my car, take the trash out, finish building the unbuilt deck and that will take you till 10 pm and then you have a full 2 hours to do a fast 18 mile run before going to sleep. This UM thing is a hobby
• Rob: Yeah, I know, but Ms. Wellington just signed up. I think it would be uncool to be the wife of a hobbyist getting chic'd at Ultraman
• Mrs. Rob: WTF? You better not come back to this place till you beat Chrissie. Get out of here and go on the full pro plan and don't even dream of showing your face till you beat her
• Rob: This will be tough but if you force me into the full pro training plan I reluctantly accept. Can you convince my manager at work too???

I put my pitch fork down when Herbert posted this. Agree with you 100%

"Eating disorder " is likely synonymous for a bunch of other issues. As you say if you have ever had problems or know someone who has, then the first step is acknowledging them
And then seeking impartial and professional help. (Ie family and friends will stand by you and support you, but despite the best love and intentions they often end up enabling)

Not to diminish the act itself, I wish her the best.

Maurice,

Likely she is not going through public care, self funded or employer funded...you can get in. Even without a union there is a duty to accommodate under general employment law both federally and provincially.

Maurice

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Which part? Ms. Wellington showing up at UM Kona, or your wife telling you get on the pro plan (in theory, she could tell you to get on the latter without the former, but I would suspect odds are low)!

she thinks I am on the dedicated tech corp plan, and my boss thinks I'm on the dedicated family plan. In the meantime I'm on the closet pro plan.
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In the Air Force we used to call that the 9 Hangar plan. The guys in 5 hangar think you are 7 hangar, the guys in 7 think you are at 2, the guys in 2 think you are on front line service on the tarmac on the flight line and the guys on the tarmac think you are at 9 hangar. Of course 9 hanger team assume you are at 5 hangar. Meanwhile, you're on a 5 hour bike ride and planning to meet your girlfriend for lunch at the beach with just enough time to ride back and put on your coveralls and show up at the engine bay at 9 hangar. Fast forward multiple decades, the meeting of your "now wife" at lunch just gets in the way of cramming in an extra swim workout.

OK back to the tire deflation. Who is charged with guarding Chrissie's bike at T1 at Ultraman Kona? Lots of air could be removed during a 10K swim

You can consider all that extraneous stuff in judging her, but the race director/chief ref have no business looking at that in considering punishment. They only consider breaking race rules. As they should - we don't want refs playing morality police when applying race rules.

It is good that she apologized, far better than most who continue to deny, deny, deny despite conclusive evidence to the contrary.

She should still face severe penalties though. It was incredibly unsportsmanlike and dangerous and there has to be very severe consequences. The other reason is that she apologized now but if she hadn't been caught, would she have done the same?

We'll never know but either way, I hope she gets the help and she should move on with her life. Get treatment and find a new sport.

Yes. This!
She did admit it and apologize. Although most of us can't understand why and still feel anger and disbelief that someone would do this to another athlete all we can do is wish that she gets the help she needs. And I think that this is a wakeup call to everyone who competes that we can't just assume everyone is ethical and plays by the same rules we do.
It must have been so very embarrassing to admit this and so humbling. At least she was a big enough person to do this.

You can wish her well but still recognize the BS of deflecting her issues by introducing the eating disorder to the conversation. As others have pointed out - this confession is insincere and narcissistic.

It because she just said, "100 bucks says you can't beat me on the bike LOL" (pink).

Cmon guys & girls. This is by no means the first time she has done this. She's been a cheater. She's cheated before and not been caught til now. Look at her past. Her being brave would be owning ALL of the things she has done in the past.

I am no expert, but when does an eating disorder become a cheating disorder. Ban her for life.

my personal uncensored view as a 40 something female...

Blaming your "moment of bad judgement" *letting the air out of a fellow competitors tires moments before a race thereby compromising her performance and safety* on an eating disorder is bizarre cowardly and manipulative. As a 40 something female who has had enough of my broad AG looking moral degenerates i say lifetime ban dammit.


my fluffier more politic version...

I am here to support women as they endeavor to stretch themselves, potentially fail, make fools of themselves, succeed way way past what they ever thought possible. ALL of these things. This all of this. I adore Ironman. It is bizarre, beautiful, hideous, frightening as hell and magical all at the same time. The harder you work the more you are rewarded simple equation.
What I find intolerable is dishonesty. Honest effort is the most beautiful thing ever slow or fast if it is an honest effort it deserves to be applauded and supported and given a cold congratulatory margarita and a pat on the ass.
However, as 97.89& percent of us (or at least I naively hope) are grinding out the hours and the work and the sweat and the chafe, saddle sores and the time sleeping in to train some are cheating. I gotta tell you whether its course cutting, doping, using a bib mule or more recently at 70.3 Syracuse letting the air out of a competitors tires moments before a race I say it is intolerable. Completely 100% intolerable. I love this sport so very much and am ashamed in the past year at what several women in their 40s have done to win. Its disgusting and deserves no place in Ironman. It degrades and belittles all the work all the hours all the YEARS I, we, you, all of us, put in to have a moment of grace while racing.
Cheaters Dopers Course Cutters all suck. Lifetime Ban.

Having just finished up jury duty for a guy we found guilty of multiple serious felonies, where we recommended a combined sentence of almost 100 years, I think an attempted murder charge for deflating a bike tire is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't get this. Yeah, she's apparently not a very good person, which suddenly everyone has decided it incredibly important to reveal publicly. But I've never - in any sport - heard of life life history being used as a factor in referee-decided discipline for violating a rule of competition.

I haven't read all the posts, but from what I can tell there's one proven incident of race misconduct. So that's the only thing to be considered by WTC/USAT as far as I'm concerned. She gets the same penalty that baby Jesus would have for deflating a tire. Whatever that is.

Eating dis-order is the least of their problems. Lack of any moral compass is way higher on the list.
To do that Is simply pathetic.
And while they appear to be sorry, the simple statement "I'm not a horrible person" in the face of the evidence that they ARE that person, shows they are still clinging onto the illusion of decency. It just gets worse and worse.
Clearly they need help, but that doesn't excuse them from deserving of some sort of appropriate punishment. There is no benefit to us or them, to allow them to compete in our sport for some amount of time. They need a ban for X period.

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To admit before being accused is good. To admit and apologize only after being caught is not nearly so good.

To cheat in any form, is to admit even before the gun goes off, that you are a loser.

While I've never won a tri or anything else, I lose because I do my best, but my best isn't the best. I'm mature enough to accept that, and reap the benefits of doing my best. I lose the race, but I'll never be a loser

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"Happiness is a myth. All you can hope for is to get laid once in a while, drunk once in a while and to eat chocolate every day"

Just to be clear, you don't know me (or most of the people on ST) so don't begin to say what any or all of us might do during races. I for one don't and never have done any of the things you mention, or anything remotely similar.

In tri's I routinely got ribbed by buddies for not taking opportunities to go faster, by engaging in rule pushing actions. In fact in one local 1/2 IM, some of the race is multiple laps with some single track. Faster athletes on lap2 will pass me. Too many times to count, I've pulled over, stopped and let lines of competitors go by. I could hold them up or force them into the weeds, but that's not cool so I stop. I'm out there so long, a couple of extra minutes is of no real concern. In general life my wife routinely gives me grief for doing things that benefit others, at cost to me/us.

Don't include me with the likes of yourself, grabbing ankles and drafting when marshals aren't around. We're not all like that. And only low life losers would deflate someone's tires before a race.

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bingo. #banthatbitch? is that kosher around here?

she's sorry, she can't believe, she is checking herself into "help" because she got caught. had she not gotten caught, she would have done this again because she beat the person she flatted, which would have validated her actions in her "help required" mind.

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On a slightly related note

http://www.tcpalm.com/...ap-stuart/411739001/

My reaction to the publishers of that article:

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I have never done any of those things. Maybe you should move on.

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Let's Slowtwitch cajole
Into a poll
Are you really so drole
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I'm OK with that too. That would be my preference. I think the only thing that concerns her is being caught. The whole, "I'm not like that", or "I have problems" spiel is complete self-serving crap.

Mostly I was concerned with the permanent ban.

This...It's all just a fucking excuse from 40 (?) year old cheat who happened to get busted.

There is not one single person on this forum who has not done something during a race to improve their situation, so move on.


So you come here to defend someone caught in the act trying to sabotage another racer for her own glory and to do it, you throw insults and accusations at everyone else?


Are you serious?

I often wonder how many people replying on this thread and who basically say 'put her in jail' etc actually deal with people with psycho-social issues such as she seems to have?

Life and people are not black and white. She isn't evil, she's obviously just mixed up and has taken the type A triathlete thing to an extreme. If she has an eating disorder, her self-image is obviously quite distorted and much of her self-worth is probably invested in triathlon. We don't know what else is going on in her life apart from these actions. People with some of the characteristics she seems to have do act impulsively (I deal with them constantly in my line of work). We don't know when she decided to deflate her competition's tyres. It might have been as soon as she saw her leave transition - that is an impulsive action.

Whilst her actions could have resulted in injury etc, I think the actual risks stated by some are quite overstated.

At least she has owned up, and accepted she did it. That's more than many people have done when it comes to issues like this.

of course it's a positive step, and should be applauded. Self-healing and integrity are the best possible outcomes.

but it may be that racing is to this person what a bar is to an alcoholic.

I am wondering if this was the only bike that was sabotaged. Clearly, there was an eye witness and photographic evidence for this one bike. I suppose it won't really ever be known how many times she has done this- or something similar - at this race or at others in the past. I wonder if anyone else, saw anything else....not because we need to beat a dead horse... but I bet others would like to know if their bikes were tampered with.

That's not too far from me. I ride my bike through there every weekend.

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Based on other posters who came on here, I doubt this is the first occurrence. Having said that I don't see why she needs to do all this. She consistently runs 3:30ish marathons and 1:30ish half IM splits. Heck, she ran 1:28 in Muskoka 2015. Anyone who know that course knows how hard it is. She is an awesome runner consistently in every race she does so this deflating is in "shake your head" territory. Maybe Fleck can comment on how good an athlete this person is as he has seen her and called her in at many races.

I generally concur, but this should still be a lifetime ban from the sport of triathlon with or without her apology. She would be better off without the "pressures" of this sport, and the sport would most certainly be better off without her.

Also, while some have said there should be criminal charges, I don't think anyone said she should be serving jailtime for it. It would be a misdemeanor offense and a fine at most.

Her apology isn't much of an apology... IMO. It also wreaks of a personality disorder. She's got more than an eating disorder going on... a mental health facility most likely will pick up on it, but there's a great saying... "how exactly do you tell a crazy person, they're crazy?" If she believes what she says above, she merely has an eating disorder and made an impulsive decision.

It's a tough one and getting "them" to get REAL help even if they recognize(rarely happens) their issues.

Interesting.
While I'm certainly not calling for jail time(lol) I made it clear two pages back where I stand on this but you raise some good points.
I'll admit I have zero experience with eating-disorders/body image etc but interestingly enough Julie Miller (still waiting on her admission and apology by the way!!:) is reported to have been working as a mental health counselor (body image )so..hmm?...perhaps something to it.

The front page article migrates my opinion a bit . . . it seems there is also documentation of "cheating" in other aspects of life too. Perhaps the same "illness" but no longer incidental or a one-time situation. I would imagine that the full disclosure/story would reveal (quite) a more. And, her apology that Herbert posted didn't mention other indiscretions . . . only where she got caught. I favorite question is "are you sorry you did it or sorry you got caught?" If you are sorry you did it then you also confess other transgressions (not just an eating disorder), when you are sorry you got caught then this is the one and only time and there is an excuse (eating disorder). It now appears she is just sorry she got caught. Too bad.

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Errr, this is kind of done a lot. And I imagine it's not just teachers...

Done a lot by people with severely skewed priorities. Yes, I know some people that put their hobby above their family, friends, and job. Which she clearly does. I've had to cancel races and vacations for work reasons on several occasions. I had to cancel Whistler 70.3 next month due to a work trip, and I will more than likely need to bail on Augusta as well for the same reason. I'd much rather go to Whistler and Augusta than a freakin' work trip (who wouldn't) but my age group triathlon hobby doesn't pay my salary... my job does. I have some Type-A Triathlete asshole traits but skewed priorities isn't one of them. Family and work come before my dopey hobby.

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I still believe it says something that she owned up to it and apologized. I would rather have an apology than the Julie Miller approach: deny deny deny.

And yes she should be punished.

And I also agree that stating that it was a spur of the moment or impulse decision is not taking full responsibility for what she did. Because we all know this is not true. She stalked her prey and waited for the right moment. And I believe this definitely isn't the first time she has done something like this.
And I don't agree with the guy who said that we all do something to improve our standings when no one is looking. And taking advantage of a draft is far from tampering with another competitors equipment.

How do you know it was not a spur of the moment thing? I just do not understand why so many love to basically say they know for a fact why a person did something. So much fake news. Why have so many folks become so mean just because of social media. And when I find a person who has been 100% perfect in their life, ...

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How do I know that it wasn't a spur of the moment decision? It was premeditated. Look up any legal definition of the word.
She had to take certain steps to accomplish her mission. She had to do at least some investigating to determine where her victims bike was located. She had to lie in wait for the perfect time when no one else was around. She stalked the transition area. She didn't deflate just anyone's tire but someone she deemed a threat in the race.

Our entire justice system is based figuring out what people did based upon facts presented. Jurors sent people to prison without ever really "knowing" someone's true intent. Why cant we apply similar logic to draw a conclusion about her intent here?

She could have seen her competition close to her seen her leave transition then decided then to deflate the tyre. This could qualify as an impulsive decision. She still had intent to deflate the tyre it's just that she made it in spur of the moment as opposed to planning it well in advance. There doesn't appear to be any evidence of some big plan. She might have just seen her competition in transition that morning and decided do it then.

I'm going with "serial deflator" who stalks her peers in transition and opportunistically deflates at spur of the moment. My guess is that the intent is pre meditated, the victim set generally known (but could depend on who shows up), the stalking opportunistic, the final victim "spur of the moment" based on "clear shot to deflation". Kind of like serial shop lifters....by the time they get caught it has been going on for a while....what they are going to shop lift, when and how are opportunistic.

But maybe, just maybe, everything is crystal clean for an entire racing career until a single instance Syracuse deflategate, not to be confused that any serial deflategate episodes at Foxborough.

I guess I am the type of person who gives the benefit of doubt to people, rather than assuming, without facts, that anything a person does can be spun into a super negative. Again, since I do not know a single person who is "perfect", I sure try my best to not pre judge others. (Which I am not perfect with either)

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Done a lot by people with severely skewed priorities.
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Really? What would you call a person that goes MIA from their job or lies to their employer so they can run the Boston Marathon or race a triathlon or whatever. I would say that person has their priorities out of order.

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Look dude, I've worked for more than one organization that gave you personal days on paper but made them impossible to actually take. At one place, I didn't take a personal day for the first 4 years of employment. I was scheduled to put my dog down and they still refused to let me take the day off. I took it anyway. Under your code of ethics, I'm apparently a bad person.

I'm of the opinion that organizations who refuse to let someone take time off are the entities with their priorities out of whack. Personal days are there for personal reasons. You shouldn't be judging the employee for whatever their personal reason is.

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She's a teacher (or was) so by choosing to be a teacher you pretty much forgo being able to take off whenever you want during the school year. She has all summer to do whatever.

I do agree with you that if your employer makes it impossible to take vacation that the company sucks. You won't get an argument from me there. That stated, find a new job if it's such a big deal. Maybe easier said than done but life is too short to be miserable.

For me I've had to miss out on vacations or races because I had a trial scheduled and my personal days are of little concern to a federal judge or the prosecution or the defense. It sucks at times but I know the deal going in. I took on a new position recently that requires an extensive amount of training. Each class is a prerequisite for the next so I have to take the classes when they're available. It's going to ruin three trips I had planned this year. It is what it is. I "could" say fuck it and go on those trips and take the classes next year but I'm expected to get the shit done ASAP, and not just when I feel like it and when it suits me. So my vacations and races get prioritized as such.

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My wife is a substitute teacher and the regular teachers contact her several weeks in advance to make sure she is available when they are going to be sick.

People come up with all kinds of convoluted excuses to miss work in all kinds of professions. It is just the way the world works. I know guys in my team blow off work to do personal stuff and that is fine by me, because at other times they donate their personal time for the company mission. I do the same and manage my time. As much as I detest the deflator for her deflating she would not be the first nor last teacher whose principal would not budge in days off for Kona or Boston so these teachers used the system to get what they needed to get done in their personal lives done. The problem is many principals won't give a pass on Kona or Boston, because every other teacher will want a pass for the beer league hockey or baseball tournament or darts or poker league. So in some cases the principal turns a blind eye during the sick day knowing full well that Boston or Kona are the real reasons. We live in an imperfect world. If you study to be a teacher first and become a competitive endurance freak later in life you really don't have the choice to change professions if you want to go to Boston

Well, I guess we cant all be such bastions of morality. Fwiw, "mental health days" are pretty much the norm where I'm from. Just so happens my mental health coincides with my physical "health".

Exactly. Because sick days are allocated for anything health related, including checkups and the like. And mental health days. Only way to survive some school years.

Just coincidental that out of all the big guns in that age group , the victim was the ONLY one who wasn't on the Chatty Worlds list as of race morning.

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Along with all the other chronicled impulsive decisions. I think, after recent cheater stories' that everyone now knows owning up is he quickest 'out' of the situation.

I hope she gets banned for life though, obviously. I don't give a shit if she has an eating disorder; I don't want my wife riding a dangerous bike because Miss Needy craves the attention of an AG win.

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