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American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread
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Ok doods and doodettes, we're less than 30 days out from the best duathlon in America - American Zofingen and there hasn't been near enough smack going around.
Proud to say I'll be bringing my 'A' game for the 'C' race (that being Canadian Women's) for the first time. That'll leave me plenty of time to get beer and heckle people like Murphy's Law for a change.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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did not register is still better than winning CWD...

js

/pink

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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2 bike rides since mid October, both in early December...so 2 in the last 6 months. All bikes sitting on wheels without air at this point. Will try to get my first ride of 2016 in this weekend. It is going to be messy...even in the CWD.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for starting this on my birthday; 66 years old and still kicking ass!

Here in Shandaken at the north end of Ulster County the hills are bigger but the roads are not as steep as AZ. Do to a trip to South Beach Tri and then hand surgery, I finally got out for only my second mountain ride today and I bonked like I have never before bonked. Riding downhill from Hunter to Phoenicia I had nothing. All I kept telling myself was "at least you don't have to run 5 miles after this. I was tired yesterday for my hill run but got it done. I guess that's why I paid for it today. Swim only tomorrow. Same bike loop, Phoenicia, Shandaken, Lexington, Hunter, Phoenicia, on Friday. It will have to be better, it can't get any worse.

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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Heading up there for 2 loops on Saturday. I'll be in great shape for CWD myself (geezer division anyway)

I need to get in better drinking shape so I'm hitting the Otter hard after the ride!

AmZof. Again. Woot!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Stillrollin, which Greezer division are you?

CDW needs more old guys!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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I'll be there to Sherpa for a friend, heckle the guys she chicks, and generally congratulate myself that I still have enough sanity left to not compete in this bad boy. I'll probably train on the course the day before the race to stop me from bitching a few weeks later about the difficulty of the Quassy course.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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50-54. You're safe ;)
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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I'll try to save some beer for ya!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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So who is in for Long Course? This will be my third, hoping the adage is true about the third time.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [SlowAmericano] [ In reply to ]
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I punked out after it took me 3 weeks to recover from last years Chris Gleason middle distance. What a great race. Really wish I was racing but that bike course (and run leg) is evil.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [SlowAmericano] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds like you're down for some triyoda-inspired Irish Car Bombs.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [SlowAmericano] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for my second time at long course. I'm in the geezer division 50-54. Totally looking forward to the torture.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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This thread is not official until King Murphy's Law decides to grace you with his presence.
Sadly I will miss AZ this year, but I will be at nationals in Bend. I will buy any AZ finishers a beer at the best place in Bend if you make it out to OR.

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"When I first had the opportunity to compete in triathlon, it was the chicks and their skimpy race clothing that drew me in. Everyone was so welcoming and the lifestyle so obviously narcissistic. I fed off of that vain energy. To me it is what the sport is all about."
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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LC for me. Missed last year from a stress fracture in femur. Bike volume is down, run volume is eh, cognitive ability is dull...everything seems to say GO TIME!!!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [SlowAmericano] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for my 1st LC, but unlike Jelana suggests, I doubt I'll be chicking anyone here.

Did a two loop bike / 1 loop run scout last Saturday and concluded I'm in for a world of hurt come race day.

Has anyone ever crawled for a trail run before, or will I be the first?

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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Definitely not the first! I remember repeating-run when you can, walk when you can't- over and over in my head once the 2nd run leg began.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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Bike volume is down, run volume is eh, cognitive ability is dull...everything seems to say GO TIME!!!

The only thing more epic than lack of fitness or motivation would be pulling a Hafferty and racing up to LC after signing up for short or GCG.

Tsunami - I think I've crawled the second run during 8 of my 9 LC races. That's about all you can do when the body starts revolting. Which usually starts about 3 hours in.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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Well ok then, it's settled. I will add knee pads to my gear list!

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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Honestly, I don't know how you guys do LC.
Though one veteran told me he actually thought Middle Distance was tougher mentally.

Either way, my hats off to you guys. Ya crazy bastards.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [steelerguy] [ In reply to ]
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steelerguy wrote:
2 bike rides since mid October, both in early December...so 2 in the last 6 months. All bikes sitting on wheels without air at this point. Will try to get my first ride of 2016 in this weekend. It is going to be messy...even in the CWD.

I am the exact opposite. Lots of quality time on the bike thanks to trainerroad but due to a real grumpy achilles almost no running.

Oh well, this race has reduced me to the "AmZof Powerwalk" more than once why should this year be any different.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. short course. I don't know who in their right mind signs up for LC.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Bypasskid] [ In reply to ]
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After taking 2 attempts (not counting my 2013 DNS) to complete the CWD I fully admit the decision to hit LC this year reflects a fair degree of masochism.

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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''The only thing more epic than lack of fitness or motivation would be pulling a Hafferty and racing up to LC after signing up for short or GC.[/quote]
Last year there was a guy who signed up for CWD and then at registration stepped it up to Long Course. I don't know his name or how he did but he got a big round of applause at registration!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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I don't remember it very well given my state of fatigue last year but I am pretty sure I crawled, walked, jogged and maybe even ran a little looking like the tin man from wizard of oz. Whatever it takes to get up the hills and to the finish.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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I was getting worried that the race had folded purely based on the lack of ST chatter / smack talk. Thanks for getting the thread started. This needs to be page-1 from now until the race. Is it even sold out as of now?
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [cyfac06] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like just charity slots only are available. Always good for the iron-folk here on Slowtwitch wanting a real race to pony up for a charity slot that's really meaningful. Hell, I'm a Mohonk member and I live 700 miles away!

Based on my 4.5 hours on the bike yesterday, I'd kill to toe the LC start line again. But there's good beer to be had and Murphy's Law that's gonna need harassment.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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I rolled 5:11 on Sat; wish it gave me confidence for LC. My transition run was sad! Oh well, I'm in it for the adventure anyway. :-)

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Bypasskid] [ In reply to ]
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Bypasskid wrote:
I'm in. short course. I don't know who in their right mind signs up for LC.

gotta do LC at least once in your life time!

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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Got a nice ride in up there on Saturday. Overcast and 50 degrees, lets hope for the same in 3 weeks! Roads are in good shape thanks to the mild winter.

I think the hills shrunk. Or perhaps it was the new mid-compact ;)
Still managed 50+ going down Mohonk so having one less tooth on the big ring didn't seem to hurt.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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Relieved to hear the race is sold out - some events shouldn't need promotion / and the RD sure as heck isn't doing anything in this department. Hope he puts in some practice time on the bagpipes, at least.

You have priorities in order... 1) Beer; 2) Harass ML (who may actually be getting into decent condition based on recent Strava workout post stalking - I think he's doing AmZof on a MTB this year?)
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [cyfac06] [ In reply to ]
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ML has gone totally dark. I think he is on some Rocky-esque chichen chasing training program and he's too worn out to post. I hope coach Mick starts to taper him down soon, so the legs can recover for the race.

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Meh ML, he'll find his way.

Where's Kathy (CeeCee)? She's the keeper of the awesome, inspiring pictures (the start line is my personal fave) and she puts ML in his place!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Another loss for the race; Mary D, a great local senior runner and triathete who has maned (womaned) the water stop since the start of the race won't be there. She will be busy running the stairs at World Trade Center Tower 1.

Good luck to her!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [steelerguy] [ In reply to ]
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Back on Long Island after a week of great hill work in northern Ulster, Green and Delaware Counties. Three running laps of the Brickyard at Bethpage this morning. My goal this year will be to run, not walk, all the climbs for CWD. I'm starting to feel ready for it.

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I think I should actually try running one of these mornings to prep. I've been employing a variation of ML's Total Aversion regimen, except to what amounts to about half of the race instead of a paltry swim.
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Sweeney wrote:
Another loss for the race; Mary D[/b], a great local senior runner and triathete who has maned (womaned) the water stop since the start of the race won't be there[/b]. She will be busy running the stairs at World Trade Center Tower 1.

Good luck to her![/quote]


That's a shame. She'll be missed.

Even though one should know what direction to go at that intersection, in my fatigue induced hallucinating state, I always had to ask her.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Mary ran Big Sur Marathon this weekend; 4:49 on one of the toughest courses in the country at 66 or 67 years old. Many time 1st place age group Ironman and Kona finsher, when I asked her ''how come you don't race AZ'' her answer was;

''How come you do'''!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Whats the rules about past f1 and CWD bringing past mugs to drink out of while they yell at the athletes they coach but they themselves never get their heart rate above 80?

http://www.johnhirsch.org
http://www.stronglikebulltraining.com
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John Hirsch wrote:
Whats the rules about past f1 and CWD bringing past mugs to drink out of while they yell at the athletes they coach but they themselves never get their heart rate above 80?

"Rules? There ain't no rules in a knife fight."



If you're bringing your own mug, it better be a "big honkin stein" and if you are filling one of those you better bring some beer!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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OH MY GOD!! IS THAT??...

THAT'S MURPHY'SLAW's MUSIC!!!


Beer is (technically) only for race participants.

And Big Honkin' Steins must have been earned, that day.

IF you wish to drink beers out of a Big Honkin' Stein, you must man (or woman) up, register, and tote your bib around the course quickly enough to win said stein.

Otherwise, it's BYOB or solo cups for you.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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So that's what it took to wake you up; someone drinking your beer! Slowtwitch grapevine says you have been training hard. Are you coming in ''ready to rumble''?

Long Island hillwork on the bike today for me. Hit all the steeps around Cold Spring Harbor and Oyster Bay. Most are steeper than AZ but much shorter. Only Fish Hatchery is long but not as steep.

It's never too late to add more hills!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
OH MY GOD!! IS THAT??...

THAT'S MURPHY'SLAW's MUSIC!!!


Beer is (technically) only for race participants.

And Big Honkin' Steins must have been earned, that day.

IF you wish to drink beers out of a Big Honkin' Stein, you must man (or woman) up, register, and tote your bib around the course quickly enough to win said stein.

Otherwise, it's BYOB or solo cups for you.

Like God giving Charlton Heston the spiel and setting it in stone tablets.
Counting on my winter atomic wing consumption to propel me downhill a little faster on a much more limited raceday schedule this time around. Two-and-a-half weeks beeotches!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Hey - Welcome back! And to the 50-54 AG!

CWD again?
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney, this is not 'Nam, this is beer drinking.
There are rules.

Krol! Yes, Gravity is our friend in one direction, anyway.

Mark - yup, CWD.

As for my training, let me explain.
No, there is too much - let me sum up:

IF AmZof involved a MTB, I'd be golden.
Since it involves running (I missed all of Mar w a sprained MCL due to pilot stupidity) and skinny-tire cycling (see: MTBing all winter) I've got my work cut out for me.

Hoping to get my ducks lined up to maybe do a recon mission there tomorrow afternoon.
I'll know better where I stand if/when I pull that off.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Hoping to get my ducks lined up to maybe do a recon mission there tomorrow afternoon.
I'll know better where I stand if/when I pull that off.

Do it! Need you on the podium, so I have shot an AG mug!

Wuz there last week: 50+ on the road bike, no aero goodies - wheeee! I won't mention the uphill speed ;)

and of course the Otter for an IPA (or three) afterwards!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like I'll get to take a lap around the bike course on Friday. Are there any bad spots in the road to watch out for. Last year, if I remember correctly, there was only one bad stretch, after the Granite Hotel, where you had to go to the center of the road.

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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If you mean where I think, they repaved that right before the race last year. My advice, which you probably don't need, is to trust what looks like beautiful pavement. I ride at the edge of the auto lane for that and in the shoulder otherwise for route 44. The shoulder of 44 is still pretty corregated in spots, feels more like bull riding to me than cycling, but looks less broken than the pavement 0-2ft to the left of the white stripe, so I ride it anyway. Some sections from the sharp turn onto Granite to the turn onto Mohonk have some damage very close to the edge of the road, but nothing I found I had to jump into the middle of the lane to avoid.

Have fun.

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Nothing that left an impression.

IIRC, there is some road work being done before the last right turn but nothing to fret over.
Have fun, I hope the weather cooperates for you.

I'm Harriman bound on Saturday. Thankful for that as my local training ground.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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I'm pushing back to Saturday. The weather looks a little better. Two laps. Then I'm going to refuel at Mexicali Blue. It's the first place I ever had a taco, over 40 years ago when it was called The Last Stand.

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Continuing our extended "we're not gonna see 70 degrees anytime soon" in Cleveland, seems like a good weekend for hill repeats!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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Saturday's weather is supposed to be marvelous in Philly, but I'll be biking the flat roads of Delaware. Why? B/c I'm looking forward to doing an actual ride with actual people vs Zwifting away with virtual people, and that's where the crew doing IMTX wants to go.

On the one hand I'll feel like an underachiever by biking flats, on the other I'm sure it'll be windy so the suffer score will end up suitably high. And since I'm going I'd say the chance for wind is 100% (that's my super power, I'm the bringer of headwinds).

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Did a lap each today of bike and run.

Both courses in good shape. Better than I am.

According to Strava, I hit 56.6 mph max speed on the Mohonk decent. : )
Woulda had a faster time, but some jackwagon pulled out of one of the few driveways on the R side of the long straightaway right in front of me.

At the Otter now for some RecoverWrongs.
The Stone House Imperial Stout is yummy.
(And packs a punch at 9% abv)


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Cool, looks like your ducks are feeling pretty good!

I'll be going around on Saturday. My wife might come along for a tour of the course.

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Nice!

Yeah, I might've sandwiched one of those stouts around their medicore IPA ;) Yum is right and I'm not a stout guy
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:

According to Strava, I hit 56.6 mph max speed on the Mohonk decent. : )
Woulda had a faster time, but some jackwagon pulled out of one of the few driveways on the R side of the long straightaway right in front of me

You should have gone by him on the left. He would have crapped his pants right there at the wheel!

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Sounds like we can finally institute a neutral start. We'll have a quorum.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Hit Mexicali Blue tonite, after "rehydrating" at the Otter. HUGE fan of their blackened catfish burrito.

You were 20-something when you had your first taco?
Did you grow up under a rock or something?

PS - Saw Myron when I was finishing up my run, he was just heading out for one of his own.
He sends his regards.


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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Saw Myron when I was finishing up my run, he was just heading out for one of his own.
He sends his regards.


Hugely talented guy. Glad to see that he's back after his scare a few years ago. Last year when I had my 20 minute, 3 tube flat change on the dirt road at the beginning of the second bike in F1, all I kept thinking was ''Myron is gonna be coming over that hill any second now!''

Did you see his time at HITS Kingston Full? Smokin'!! at 66 years old!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Any sign of the brush fire? Heard their having a hard time containing it. Hopefully Sunday's rain does the trick.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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It really is a shame that they haven't updated their IPA. By today's (admittedly high) standards, it doesn't even taste like an IPA.

stillrollin wrote:
Nice!

Yeah, I might've sandwiched one of those stouts around their medicore IPA ;) Yum is right and I'm not a stout guy
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Picture of the fire from SUNY New Paltz

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [baliman] [ In reply to ]
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Spot on. I thought perhaps I've just become an IPA snob.


baliman wrote:
It really is a shame that they haven't updated their IPA. By today's (admittedly high) standards, it doesn't even taste like an IPA.

stillrollin wrote:
Nice!

Yeah, I might've sandwiched one of those stouts around their medicore IPA ;) Yum is right and I'm not a stout guy
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Wow. Sad.

Soaker on Sunday in Rockland, I really hope it's the same 60 miles north.
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Sweeney wrote:


Picture of the fire from SUNY New Paltz

I saw nor smelled no signs of this fire when I went by yesterday.
Saw that Minne was closed, but otherwise, it seemed pretty normal.


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stillrollin wrote:
Spot on. I thought perhaps I've just become an IPA snob.


baliman wrote:
It really is a shame that they haven't updated their IPA. By today's (admittedly high) standards, it doesn't even taste like an IPA.

stillrollin wrote:
Nice!

Yeah, I might've sandwiched one of those stouts around their medicore IPA ;) Yum is right and I'm not a stout guy

Some from Column A, some from Column B.

At the risk of blasphemy, many of the Otter's beers are just "meh".

The Three Pines IPA has always been just ok, at best - but considering where the IPA world has gone over the past 5-10 years, it's now more like a slightly hoppy Anerican ale than an IPA.


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Beer talk is good but how bout getting some intel on what our beloved RD will be serving?

Some Marketing Director you are ;)
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baliman wrote:
It really is a shame that they haven't updated their IPA. By today's (admittedly high) standards, it doesn't even taste like an IPA.

stillrollin wrote:
Nice!

Yeah, I might've sandwiched one of those stouts around their medicore IPA ;) Yum is right and I'm not a stout guy

It may be heresy, but Bacchus has started making their own microbrews. Their IPA is outstanding if you like citrusy IPAs.

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Cool ... I will check it out
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Wife and I have been back and forth to the Kingston/New Paltz area going on 11 years now and have only been to the Otter once. We've always stuck to Keegan's for brews. I know for a long time there was nothing in the way of grub there though. I've actually been to Skytop (which I think is closed now) more than the Otter. Hell, what happened to Rhinebeck Brewing????!!

I'll have to pack up a few of our CLE brews for ya'll to sample, instead of my usual Red Bull contribution to the aid stations.

Brush fire - I thought it was from ML braking heavily on the Mohonk descent to avoid that pesky automobile that pulled out.
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blwmhv wrote:
baliman wrote:
It really is a shame that they haven't updated their IPA. By today's (admittedly high) standards, it doesn't even taste like an IPA.

stillrollin wrote:
Nice!

Yeah, I might've sandwiched one of those stouts around their medicore IPA ;) Yum is right and I'm not a stout guy

It may be heresy, but Bacchus has started making their own microbrews. Their IPA is outstanding if you like citrusy IPAs.

Sweet. Will hafta check it out.
I *heart* citrusy IPA's - Ithaca Flower Power is one of my faves.
Ballast Point Sculpin (and Grapefruit Sculpin for those who want actual citrus in their IPA) are some other tasty ones.


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Yeah ... these were good IPAs ... a couple of years ago. I guess things move slower in your new age group :-)

Murphy'sLaw wrote:

I *heart* citrusy IPA's - Ithaca Flower Power is one of my faves.
Ballast Point Sculpin (and Grapefruit Sculpin for those who want actual citrus in their IPA) are some other tasty ones.
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Yeah ... these were good IPAs ... a couple of years ago. I guess things move slower in your new age group :-)

Murphy'sLaw wrote:

I *heart* citrusy IPA's - Ithaca Flower Power is one of my faves.
Ballast Point Sculpin (and Grapefruit Sculpin for those who want actual citrus in their IPA) are some other tasty ones.

Oh, like they suck now?

You young hipster punks always trying to be cool. ;-)
I bet you're all over sours now.

GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!


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Ah, one lap plus one extra time on the first climb. I parked at the Yellow Church making it easy to get that extra climb at the end. I don't know what feels worse; hitting that first climb cold after a 2 hour drive from Long Island or hitting it after the five mile run takes it's toll on the legs. I do know that going up it right after the first lap is tougher for me than in the F1. I also know that I will never know how tough it is on the Third Lap. Never Gonna Happen!

The new IA16, here in front of the Yellow church;




was solid on the first decent hitting 50.1. It could be a real contender with a younger set of legs powering it. I'd have to push harder coming out of the turns at the top to get the speed on the straight higher. I'll see if I can get it faster on race day.

Recovery at Mexicali Blue with a Roast Pork and Pinapple Burrito. When I told the guy that the first time I was in there was 1973. He said ''that's way before my time, my parents were on 13 in '73''!!!

Two weeks to go. I hope you all are ready!

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Nice! Purty ride.

The 3rd climb up Mohonk is its own special circle of Hell.
One that I have experienced for the last time back in '09. Never again.

Another week+ to build a little more fitness, then it's taper time.
Game on.


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Nice looking ride !

I finished my last long ride today, 101 miles in the cold Ohio rain. Tomorrow is my last long run.
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Third time up is easier than the second. The second one has you questioning whether you'll be able to go for a third.

Roadworks in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park relegated me to doing loops on my favorite bike race course. 4 miles of nothing but hill. Let me tell you the loop sucks equally in both directions. Nice 5 mile transition run. Will be tapping into some just released Great Lakes Chillwave Double IPA's shortly. Two weeks....I. Like. My. Chances.
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Based on my course scouting ride you're right, I did question whether I'd have anything left after climbing Mohonk a 3rd time. And I'm no more confident today after my last long ride. Man my legs are sore...

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Nice work getting done.

I got 50 miles in Harriman. My suffering paled in comparison to seeing many doing the Northface 50 Ultra. Ouch! Running up Tiaroti and Arden Valley cant be much fun. Glad I was riding!

Start line in sight!
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You heard it here first:



Accueweather forecast. At least we can hope!

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Ha! Dare I dream? In my 4 year experience with this race I've come to learn to arrive prepared for anything. Fog lights for race bike? Check. Tights, toe covers, full fingered gloves when weather should be > 60, check, check, and check.

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Sweeney wrote:
You heard it here first:



Accueweather forecast. At least we can hope!

Hope is not a strategy.

Forecast will change a dozen times between now and then.


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Murphy'sLaw) Hope is not a strategy. [/quote wrote:

In my short history at this little mountain side hops festival, I have froze in CWD three years ago and roasted and melted in CGF1 last year.

I sure HOPE I can get some decent weather this time!

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Last year onthe third run all strategy went out the window. It was more like "I sure hope I can get up the next hill"

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Gonna be what it's gonna be.

If you're doing the women's (like me) you ain't out there long enough to bitch in any conditions. Only the men's have that right!

After all we'll be drinking while they are dealing.
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Froze on the bike for CDW three years ago;



I don't know how the long course people stayed on the bike for three laps

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Running the North Face marathon was really good training for CDW. 4200 feet of climbing.



Watch out.....
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Froze on the bike for CDW three years ago;



I don't know how the long course people stayed on the bike for three laps

That was the "surprise EPIC" day - forecast called for like "30% chance of afternoon showers", and it was cold and rainy all day.
My kinda conditions!!!
Very ML-friendly.


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Yeah I didn't mind that day either.

Now, in 2011 I was stoopid enough to do the ITT. It rained for the 3 1/2 of the 4 laps.
7+ hours of being drenched, that sucked.

I'll take the wet/cold over heat anytime. Especially for 3+ hours.
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2011 was pretty epic. But at least you guys had a few hundred people out on the course!
Harken back to the inagural....2005, with about 35 pre-registered after somewhat hasty late-in-the-year organization by tetsuoni. How'd word get around back then? Duathlon.com. 70-degree days preceded the race. Rain starts Saturday late afternoon. Temps dropped overnight. Race morning was rain and maybe 40 degrees (conditions held until sometime around around 3pm during my second run, at which point there was just fog). 17 of us showed up at the start. 10 of us finished. Tetsuoni's beer came in the form of bottles. I think all race participants received at least a case as a lovely parting gift.
Ahh, the good ol' days!

That all being said, two of my best (and least painful) LC finishes were in abysmal conditions. Seeing that I'm not doing LC, and will be doing a hell of a lot of standing around after I decimate my CWD competition (although, of course, being the human chicken wing does come with serious possibility of becoming extra tasty-crispy out there...let's hope I don't get chicked) - I say bring on the heat. I could use some sun.
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Yup, 2005 set the bar for epicness, that not even '11 nor '13 could match.

My wife spent the entire night prior - while it was T-storming - actively trying to talk me out of doing it.

Nobody had a clue how long it was going to take, or if we could even finish before dark.
Or finish, period.
It started in the dark at 7am.
40 and pissing rain all day.
Wet leaves everywhere.

And after the first lap of the bike, it got pretty lonely out there.

I've had good results on those epic days -
4th LC in '05, 1st F1 in '11 and '3rd in '13 -
so sign me up for more just like that!!


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Tsunami wrote:
I'm in for my 1st LC, but unlike Jelana suggests, I doubt I'll be chicking anyone here.

Did a two loop bike / 1 loop run scout last Saturday and concluded I'm in for a world of hurt come race day.

Has anyone ever crawled for a trail run before, or will I be the first?

Shuffled...possible crawling this year. After doing LC 6 times, I still getting f*cking nervous about the bike...I hope the basement strength training I have been doing pays off, cuz the saddle time aint there.

I've been doing a shit ton of power hiking around home and in the Whites with an 80 pound backpack...so if anything, I have plenty of camp gear to camp out on the third run loop.
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Since AmZof isn't nearly hard enough with my usual lack of training going into it...

I've just upped the ante.

Night before last, cat woke me at 2am to let him in. Since Mrs ML gets PO'd when he's out at night due to the coyotes in our area (and naturally it's all my fault if he goes out, and/or refuses to come back in) - I explode out of bed and down the stairs....

Where my foot slipped and I surfed my heels down 2-3 steps, only stopping when my foot then smashed into the banister.

Which dislocated my 2nd smallest toe.
Yay.

Can't run now, haven't biked since Sun.
What was going to be a "big" trail run week for me, is now the start of an uber-taper.
FML.


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Here you go:

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Here's another good one:
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Run course (it's actually a pretty small area that you're traversing.... just keep telling yourself that!)



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And from back in the hand-drawn era..... the bike course:

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CeeCee! Bringing the goods.

So - are you going to be putting the Canadian Womens into the CWD this year??

It's been far too long since I've had a piss-warm Appletini. ;-)


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Oh man, that sucks.

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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According to Active, it appears that registration is still open and dare I say I am about to pull the trigger and sign up, once again, for the dreaded but fantasmagorical long course. Why, why, why do I get drawn to this evil every year. I guess it's just that good. By the way, best beer out there now is Sip of Sunshine. Past Topper on my list recently. Am I really going to sign up and do this again?

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Sadly, some idiot decided I should expand my tax practice now that the kids are older. The same idiot forgot that she also likes to be athletic. Bad combination. Digging myself out of a deep fitness hole after our April 30th tax deadline.

Still working on getting Tetsuoni to make a 1 loop trail run division for Cdn Womens CPAs named Cathy.

I would be SOOOO there for that, with framboise-y beers for you and the rest of the motley crew!

It's worth the price of admission to have random guys coming up to me in the parking lot, saying, Are you CeeCee? Can I have one of your Canadian beers?

We can usually smuggle over about 10 cans ;-)



Murphy'sLaw wrote:
CeeCee! Bringing the goods.

So - are you going to be putting the Canadian Womens into the CWD this year??

It's been far too long since I've had a piss-warm Appletini. ;-)
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Just give in....listen to that voice calling for you to come suffer with the rest of us
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I'm not sure if it's the weekly nightmares of Mohonk Mountainmen jumping out from behind trees and me peeing all over myself or the memories of that dastardly third lap that keeps drawing me back to the Spring Farm Trailhead ...sort of like ML to the beer tap.

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CeeCee wrote:
Sadly, some idiot decided I should expand my tax practice now that the kids are older. The same idiot forgot that she also likes to be athletic. Bad combination. Digging myself out of a deep fitness hole after our April 30th tax deadline.

Still working on getting Tetsuoni to make a 1 loop trail run division for Cdn Womens CPAs named Cathy.

I would be SOOOO there for that, with framboise-y beers for you and the rest of the motley crew!

It's worth the price of admission to have random guys coming up to me in the parking lot, saying, Are you CeeCee? Can I have one of your Canadian beers?

We can usually smuggle over about 10 cans ;-)



Murphy'sLaw wrote:
CeeCee! Bringing the goods.

So - are you going to be putting the Canadian Womens into the CWD this year??

It's been far too long since I've had a piss-warm Appletini. ;-)

That idiot is a moron.

If you can't be an athlete - be an athletic supporter.

Not even gonna ask where you hide the cans.


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I'm not sure if it's the weekly nightmares of Mohonk Mountainmen jumping out from behind trees and me peeing all over myself or the memories of that dastardly third lap that keeps drawing me back to the Spring Farm Trailhead ...sort of like ML to the beer tap.

A place where the beer flows like wine.
Where homely duathletes instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano.
A little place called AmZof.


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I'm not sure if it's the weekly nightmares of Mohonk Mountainmen jumping out from behind trees and me peeing all over myself or the memories of that dastardly third lap that keeps drawing me back to the Spring Farm Trailhead ...sort of like ML to the beer tap.

1st lap: This kinda suck but I am ok, this is fun!
2nd lap: Feeling great, I am soooo going to kill this race!
3rd lap: WTF I was thinking... I am going to die :(

LOL

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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ML - Sorry to hear you'll be hiking it with one of my local buds that I'm bringing out for his first attempt at LC. He's been nursing a calf muscle tear and hasn't run in about 6 weeks. Guess the beer handups for you blokes will be that much easier.
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Oh Yeah! It's on.

Thanks. C'mon down, I'll save you that spot on the rack again! And drink your beer!!

CeeCee wrote:
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:

That idiot is a moron.

If you can't be an athlete - be an athletic supporter.

Not even gonna ask where you hide the cans.


Yeah... so I went out for a 4km training jog last night in flat old cornfield land here in SW Ontario. Not looking like I could even manage a 1 loop 8km trail run.

I still think you guys should bring a crew to Barrelman in the fall. Make it happen and I will buy the beer!

Sept. 18th...... http://niagarafallstriathlon.com/


Alternatively, Montreal the week before that. Race on the Formula 1 course! It's a qualifier for Du Worlds 2017, so there will be great competition.

Sept. 10th .... www.esprittriathlon.com
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Looks like I'm gonna live. But I'll never play the piano again. ;-)

Got out for a road ride tonite, went pretty well.
Had to wear my old (roomier) road shoes, and keep the one latched loosely in the toe area, but I can still pedal a bike.

At some point, I'll hafta try some running.
That'll probably come in handy next weekend, right?


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Can't run now, haven't biked since Sun.


Well, now your bike and run training is like your swim training...never slowed you down before.


Bummer, I probably would have broken the rest of my toes a few seconds later by connecting with the cat...
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I showed this picture to a friend today and there reaction was OMG !!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Can't run now, haven't biked since Sun.


Well, now your bike and run training is like your swim training...never slowed you down before.


Bummer, I probably would have broken the rest of my toes a few seconds later by connecting with the cat...

LOL. Thx, I needed that.


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We've slipped to pg 2 so I'll ask, what are "Mohonk Mountainmen"?

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Got my second rain soaked run of the week done, so I guess I can consider myself prepared for that, just in case.

Final ride around the raindrops tomorrow, Mother's Day induced taper then replenish the supply of Captian's Daughter (getting nervous it may be one of those lean beer years) and we're off.

Let's do this!
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Mohonk Mountainmen noun (proper): gnomes that hang out above Spring Farm between 6pm-6am that magically switch the caution tape on the run course redirecting the fast doods that KNOW THE COURSE, but miss the turn and run an extra two miles on the opening run anyhow.
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Got my second rain soaked run of the week done, so I guess I can consider myself prepared for that, just in case.

Final ride around the raindrops tomorrow, Mother's Day induced taper then replenish the supply of Captian's Daughter (getting nervous it may be one of those lean beer years) and we're off.

Let's do this!

Yes, I ran in the downpour this morning on the muddy trails at Bethpage ST Park just to pay my dues. I think the long range forecasters are trying to set us up, forecasting rain or showers every day next week then beautiful and sunny for Sunday then rain again again Monday. I'm not falling for it and unlike three years ago when I had two rain jackets with me and was wearing one before the start, I will wear one on the bike if necessary.

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Just plan for rain. That way you won't be disappointed.

It's likely gonna be swampy for the runs, regardless.

Builds character.


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Ah yes, I remember that.

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It just seems more appropriately AmZofian if it's raining, cold and sloppy. If it ain't, you really haven't experienced AmZof.
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"Just plan for rain. That way you won't be disappointed."

"It just seems more appropriately AmZofian if it's raining, cold and sloppy. If it ain't, you really haven't experienced AmZof."

And this is why I'm not riding/running outside in the rain. I want to save myself for AmZof so I can really savor the experience, should it be raining, cold, and sloppy next weekend.

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Tsunami wrote:
We've slipped to pg 2 so I'll ask, what are "Mohonk Mountainmen"?

A creature of sorts, which vaguely resemble man, that freely roams about the Mohank preserve dressed in a kilt with bag pipes slung to its back and a growler of Keegan's Ale in its arm. I've spotted this wretched creature only once on my third and final run loop in 2012. It was there, in the middle of the final meadow as I emerged from the woods half broken, smirking at me, then it was gone. Haven't had a good night's sleep since.

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Registration is still open on active.com

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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I think you have been slacking off on your marketing

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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Much like our inspiration Powerman Zofingen in Switzerland, the worst the weather, the more epic the race

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Given all the recent rain, plan on having your running shoes sucked off your feet with in the first quarter mile of the Run

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Much like our inspiration Powerman Zofingen in Switzerland, the worst the weather, the more epic the race

The worse the weather, the more need Bagpipis!

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tetsuoni wrote:
I think you have been slacking off on your marketing


That's not the only thing I've been slacking off on of late.

You gonna come out in your skirt and strangle that bag o' cats again this year?


PS - I emailed ya over a week ago, never got a reply.
Anyway, let's make it official - please drop me down to the CWD.
(I registered for GCG, but no way I can complete that, much less compete in it.)
Or tell Tom Ganz so he can do the honors.
Thx!


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Just home from my last pre race loop on the bike- little rain this morning but the run course is a swamp- I'm thinking at least two sets of kicks and socks.
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tetsuoni wrote:
I think you have been slacking off on your marketing

Hey Rip Van Winkle, it's 2016. Change your signature line or your marketing department will be getting complaints that nobody was there on the wrong date.
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Pouring right now in New Paltz. More rain possible Fri, Sat, Sunday morning.

Don't forget to bring your Wellies!

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What's a Wellie? I've got a few days left to acquire one, if needed.

Anyone care to remind me what I wear to be comfortable running / biking in rain at 50 deg? I can do warmer and wet, and colder and dry, but am drawing a blank here.

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I'm a pretty huge fan of neoprene kayak gloves for those conditions.
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I recognize it tends to be cooler on the Western part of the course, so if wet, maybe better gloves would be good. Just not sure I'd want full fingered in anything above 50. I'll pack for the worst imaginable scenario but still need to think through what I'd actually wanna grab in T1.

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Tsunami wrote:
What's a Wellie? I've got a few days left to acquire one, if needed.

Wellies:



You're going to need them!

Another run on the muddy trails in the downpour this morning. Boy am I ready!

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I'm a pretty huge fan of neoprene kayak gloves for those conditions.

I've got some SealSkinz gloves which also work well for days like that. Better dexterity than the kayak ones.

Also have my fall/spring/winter MTB PI gloves (forget the model, they're wind/water resistant, not proof) that I'll probably use - they won't keep my hands totally warm or dry, just not miserable, which is really all I'm aiming for next Sunday.

For anybody trying to decide which kit to use, here's a Pro tip:
Bring EVERYTHING.

Better to have it all in the car with you, so you can make a last minute decision on what to use, based on what Mother Nature decides to throw at us.


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Final hill work out on the bike this afternoon. Hit everything around Cold Spring Harbor one last time. Tomorrow's a hill run again. Then I'll start to take it easy. At 66 I need extra time, even for CWD

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Shit, at a 22 yrs younger, I'm not even working out as hard as you are! But I'm in for the long haul. Nothing can save me now anyway...

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Tsunami wrote:
Shit, at a 22 yrs younger, I'm not even working out as hard as you are! But I'm in for the long haul. Nothing can save me now anyway...

Yes, but when you complete LC you will know that you have done something that not many have done. On the toughest course in the country!

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I took an o-fer this week for running, not surprisingly. Ugh. Less than ideal.
Was hoping to maybe get in one today, did a casual family hike instead. Toe was mostly ok-ish for that.

2 decent bike rides on Thurs and Sat, hit some local hills.

Got the DreamCrusher Express all gussied up in her dancing shoes today.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Hey everone,

I'm an AmZof newbie, trying to find some basic info, and hoping for a little help. What time does the race start? I found the info from 2015 - will it be the same? Does everyone get their packet the morning of the race?

Thanks!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [michaelb] [ In reply to ]
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Lack of info is one of this race's charming qualities. Don't get dropped on the run or you'll never figure the course out.

And no, packet pickup is generally the day prior, in recent years held at the gazebo at the Mohonk Preserve. Hours though - your guess is as good as mine. Try noon to 3 pm, that aught to be safe, I think.

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [michaelb] [ In reply to ]
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******** EDITED *********


Usually the Long Course race starts at 7:00Middle Distance GCG F1 at 7:30 and CWD (short course) at 8:00

******** start times are all :30 mins EARLIER than what I had posted prior. ***********

(In 2012 and prior, the start times were indeed :30 mins later)

I've always gotten my "packet" (such as it is) on race am.
I know sometimes they have pickup the afternoon before, so if you happen to be in the area then, swing by.

Rack spots are usually first come, first served.
But honestly, unless you're gunning for the overall podium in whatever race you're doing, it probably doesn't really matter much where you rack, it's not going to make much difference overall.

There are 2 real bathrooms, and several porta potties.
Please let the LC racers use them first, as there's plenty of time for everybody else later.

Overall, it's a very chill, casual vibe.
And then the race starts... ;-)

There's nothing better than BEING FINISHED RACING at AmZof.
You get to hang out and drink beer, swap war stories, and heckle whomever is still racing.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Finished my last "hill" workout today. It consisted of 10 trips up and down 4 flight of stairs carrying furniture and boxes. Moving my daughter into her apartment...ugh.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome. Thanks so much. Super helpful. Are the run and bike routes marked? I'll do my best not to get dropped but . . .
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [michaelb] [ In reply to ]
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Bike route has people at most turns. I drove the route prior to my first race and still found some places where I wasn't sure which was the main road and which the side road once I was on my bike. Maybe I'm navigationally challenged.

There are markings for the run, caution tape or something. My 1st year I blindly followed others on the first lap, looking down at my footing more than up at blazes on trees, and found myself confused when I ran again alone. But if you watch the blazes on R1, remember them for R2, and remember your adventurous spirit, you'll be fine.

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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Got it. Thanks again. I am definitely navigationally challenged, especially when gasping for breath, so I'll try to pay attention.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [michaelb] [ In reply to ]
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Forecast: 10% chances of rain he he he!



The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [michaelb] [ In reply to ]
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Bike course will have volunteers and/or State Police at intersections at turns, especially for the first two laps if doing long course. There will be aid stations at the exit of Spring Farm (aka transition area, gazebo), which is also in the middle of the climb up to Mohonk (end/beginning of each bike loop) as well as at the base of the decent off Minnewaska (roughly mile 17 or 18 of the bike loop). Mostly uphill. All right turns on course.
Run should be well marked with caution tape, spray chalk, and the crushed dreams of many an athlete. Run is sort of a figure 8-ish course with one aid station that you hit twice coming from different directions. You never run the same trail in different directions, but there are a couple of cross-overs. Also mostly uphill.

As for the comment about what to wear for 50's and rain, something slightly less stuffy than you'd wear for 40's and rain.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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Charged the battery and pumped up the tires on my TT bike which had been sitting dormant since SOS for my longest (30 miles) and 6th ride of the year. Anyone have a gain 50 watts in 5 days training plan?

I am going to be perfectly content drinking beer from a Solo this year.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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Just one minor clarification - you DO make 2 non-Right turns - one as you exit the Preserve entrance, you bear left and go UP the Mohonk climb.

(You'd think this would be idiot-proof, but they're always coming up with a better idiot. :-p
At least one racer has taken the "all R turns" thing too literally and gone DOWN the hill coming out of the gate.)

And upon completion of your lap (for CWD or F1) or 3rd lap for LC, you make a L to enter back in to the Preserve (this is the same road you drove in on to park that am) and then up that nasty steep dirt climb to return to transition.

So tl/dr - other than the exit/entrance to the Preserve, the bike course is ALL RIGHT TURNS.

One basic tip for the run - when you get to the run Aid Station intersection, make a LEFT.
You'll hit this 2x each lap coming from different directions. Hard LEFT there.


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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
One basic tip for the run - when you get to the run Aid Station intersection, CHOOSE THE OREOS.
You'll hit this 2x each lap coming from different directions. CHOOSE THE OREOS EVERY TIME.

There. I fixed it for you.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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The navigationally challenged newbies thank you all!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Geez!
Well, at least I get the "mostly uphill" part right.
I'm not sure how anyone's ever gotten off course here. Then again, I'm also not sure how I figured out the run course on a blind, cold, wet run the day before the race in '95, with little more than a meager map that someone color coded the different trail/fire road sections in different colors:



The good thing is that all the volunteers are friendly. Those that finished ahead of you, maybe not so much.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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This race goes back to 1995? I was figuring 2005.

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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'95.....2005.
Guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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Ha!

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krol wrote:
Geez!
Well, at least I get the "mostly uphill" part right.
I'm not sure how anyone's ever gotten off course here. Then again, I'm also not sure how I figured out the run course on a blind, cold, wet run the day before the race in '95, with little more than a meager map that someone color coded the different trail/fire road sections in different colors:



The good thing is that all the volunteers are friendly. Those that finished ahead of you, maybe not so much.

You showed up a DECADE before the first race? Talk about dedication!! ;-)

The color-coding kinda/sorta makes it a bit clearer:
Start at START (in red) heading out past the parking lot, across the field/swamp, then down the hill parallel to the road coming in.
It goes L into the woods/singletrack (just below the 4 on the map) and up a hill. Yay.
At the top of that hill, there are stone steps, and then a carriage road.
GO LEFT HERE.

(this is one of the areas that the Mohonk Mountain trolls like to F with the run course signage)

Down the carriage road a ways, then make a hard R into some more singletrack/climbing action.
At the top of this climb is the run Aid Station (where 1,2,3 all intersect).
GO LEFT.


Now you're on the blue segment (2). Continue down the carriage road a ways, and then make a RIGHT onto the singletrack trail.
You go down a hill, then across the wooden plank bridge, and then up.
In a short ways, you'll come upon a large table rock with many cairns stacked on and around it.
GO RIGHT HERE.
Some more singletrack brings you to the nastiest climb on the run course. You'll run it the first time.
Enjoy that feeling, because it won't likely happen again later.
After you top out, there's a slight descent, then bang a R, up a short trail with water-bars across it, then bear L onto the carriage road.
Follow the carriage road around and to the run Aid Station.
GO LEFT.


Now you're on the green segment (3) - the home stretch!! Down, down, down the carriage road, thru several turns and twists, and then just as you get to where you can see the parking lot and hear the commotion (and later, smell the food) at the Pavillion, you bang a right over a short plank bridge and into the last singletrack trail section.
It goes up, down, up, across, up, and then hard LEFT and down, down to the carriage road, where you make a LEFT at the bottom, and head across the the road that goes thru the grass field, which is a wonderful false-flat, that eventually brings you back to the TA and the Pavilion.


Got all that? : )






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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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//You go down a hill, then across the wooden plank bridge, and then up.

IIRC (an it's a good chance I don't), the "pa-dump" sound from the wooden planks which resonates through the woods is a warning that you are about to be slowed in your tracks by one steep mutha of a climb.

The only place I've ever stopped during a race. I won't admit to crying though ;)
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [steelerguy] [ In reply to ]
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YES ... not cheap but easy ... http://www.vivax-assist.com/...vivax-assist_4-0.php

steelerguy wrote:
Charged the battery and pumped up the tires on my TT bike which had been sitting dormant since SOS for my longest (30 miles) and 6th ride of the year. Anyone have a gain 50 watts in 5 days training plan?

I am going to be perfectly content drinking beer from a Solo this year.
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How's the toe? Have you tried to run yet?

It's going to be an interesting bike leg if you have to walk the first run.

For me today was an easy 3 hour ride along the LIE Service Rd. Boy are my legs tired now that I'm backing it down.

Heading for Ulster Country tomorrow. Rest and swim in the new pool in Arkeville.

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I did a short T-run after an hour-ish mod-hard bike ride last night! First run in 8 days.

(Nabbed some local descending KOM's as prep for Mohonk. Zoom zoom! )

Toe was mostly ok-ish.
For the first mile or so it was kinda like Bart Simpson "Ow! Quit it. Ow! Quit it." with every R footfall, but then I just tuned it out and it didn't bug me too much the last 2m.

Of course, then my "good" calf had to start barking out of the blue - because reasons.

Will try a trail run tonite. Fingers crossed.
(Not toes - that's how I got into this mess to begin with.)

IF I can survive run 1 on Sun, the bike should be decent, and then it's just dealing with the world of hurt on run 2, at whatever pace I can eke out.


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Bumpity-bump!

Weather has been beautiful since Sunday afternoon, and the current forecast calls for another 2 more of the same (today and Thurs), but then Fri and Sat is calling for rain.
Just in case you thought the grassy swampy areas might dry out....

Sun currently is caling for some sun, breezy, and cooler (low 40, high 57).

Whatevs. As we know, that'll probably change 3 more times between now and then.
And you can't even trust the forecast from the night before the race sometimes.

Hope yer tapers are going well, and you're getting mentally prepared for what awaits us on Sunday.


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I'm somewhere between "bring it, I'm ready" and "I wonder if I can finish this without vomiting all over myself". Hmm, maybe I should plan my clothing for what looks good with regurgitated Honey Stinger and Endurox products...

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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Sun currently is caling for some sun, breezy, and cooler (low 40, high 57).

That's some racing weather right there!

Especially since there's no pesky swim in Lake Welch involved ;)
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stillrollin wrote:
Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Sun currently is caling for some sun, breezy, and cooler (low 40, high 57).

That's some racing weather right there!

Especially since there's no pesky swim in Lake Welch involved ;)

WORD.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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is it possible to ever really be ready ? Butterflies already and it's only Wednesday, I sure do love it !
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
stillrollin wrote:
Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Sun currently is caling for some sun, breezy, and cooler (low 40, high 57).

That's some racing weather right there!

Especially since there's no pesky swim in Lake Welch involved ;)

WORD.

Just had lunch on my deck here in Ulster Co. It's one of the most beautiful days ever.

Last prep run his morning. Legs like total crap. They have three days to heal, the race is close!

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CBJFan wrote:
is it possible to ever really be ready ? Butterflies already and it's only Wednesday, I sure do love it !

I have butterflies and I'm not even coming to the race!?!?
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sevenride wrote:
what are "Mohonk Mountainmen"?


A creature of sorts, which vaguely resemble man, that freely roams about the Mohank preserve dressed in a kilt with bag pipes slung to its back and a growler of Keegan's Ale in its arm. I've spotted this wretched creature only once on my third and final run loop in 2012. It was there, in the middle of the final meadow as I emerged from the woods half broken, smirking at me, then it was gone. Haven't had a good night's sleep since.


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AZ 2011 Murphy's Law, Chris Gleason, TriYoda, Baliman, KAlber
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Yes, Chris. May he rest in peace.

My tribute to him, his RR of that race. Perhaps the best AmZof recap ever written (and not just because I'm mentioned!):

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ng%2Fboring#p3340503
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CeeCee wrote:

AZ 2011 Murphy's Law, Chris Gleason, TriYoda, ???, KAlber

??? = baliman.


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stillrollin wrote:
Yes, Chris. May he rest in peace.

My tribute to him, his RR of that race. Perhaps the best AmZof recap ever written (and not just because I'm mentioned!):

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ng%2Fboring#p3340503

Thx for the awesome trip down memory lane!!
Good times.

R.I.P. Chris - miss you so much man.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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quote Murphy'sLaw]??? = baliman.[/quote]
thx. fixed it.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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I'll be bringing some fresh meat for the altar of sacrifice (Bonticou Crag).
Caption Contest Wednesday![/img]

Please note that this leg is not mine.
The athlete this belongs to is set to toe the long course start line. We'll see if his (ahem!) manhood remains in tact.
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krol wrote:
I'll be bringing some fresh meat for the altar of sacrifice (Bonticou Crag).
Caption Contest Wednesday![/img]

Please note that this leg is not mine.
The athlete this belongs to is set to toe the long course start line. We'll see if his (ahem!) manhood remains in tact.


It's only a flesh wound.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Remember back when that bruise was what hurt most? Good times.


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El bumpo.

Today's the last day of nice local weather here, so make the most of it!
Rain tomorrow and Sat afternoon/eve.

"Theoretically" the rain should end overnite on Sat/early Sun am. LOL.


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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
El bumpo.

Today's the last day of nice local weather here, so make the most of it!
Rain tomorrow and Sat afternoon/eve.

"Theoretically" the rain should end overnite on Sat/early Sun am. LOL.

that sounds like 2013 forecast...

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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LuisDF wrote:
Murphy'sLaw wrote:
El bumpo.

Today's the last day of nice local weather here, so make the most of it!
Rain tomorrow and Sat afternoon/eve.

"Theoretically" the rain should end overnite on Sat/early Sun am. LOL.


that sounds like 2013 forecast...

Indeed it does. We all know how THAT turned out...


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Murphy'sLaw wrote:

Today's the last day of nice local weather here, so make the most of it!


Beautiful morning for quick spin on the new rear tire. All systems go.

Optimistic that Saturday's showers move out, leaving the bog in its finest sneaker sucking condition and us with some wind to deal with. If it aint rainin, we aint complainin ;)

Tighten your shoes and get low, it's game time!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [elvisruns2000] [ In reply to ]
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I'm way over in the PNW, but I look forward to this thread every year :-)
Wish it wasn't so far away...it sounds horrifying but crazy fun. Have a great race everyone!
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Yeah, and the rain keeps getting pushed back closer and closer to the start................

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It is indeed the best of times, and it's the worst of times.

Heading out for a final spin in the heat & humidity to acclimatize myself. Don't think we've had either of those since.....mid-September.
Since the Roubaix is in dry dock, I'll be crushing this bike course on my Tarmac. Sans aero gettup. Laugh now, but when you see how I climb like a goat (with the build of a linebacker), it's the end of days!
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krol wrote:


Since the Roubaix is in dry dock, I'll be crushing this bike course on my Tarmac. Sans aero gettup.

I'm rockin the Tarmac too!

Mostly cuz the 2005 Cervelo Dual was relegated to the trainer years ago and never replaced.

I finally gave in to geezerdom and put on a mid-compact though. Definately helps up Mohonk. Hopefully helps the legs on run #2 as well!
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I left the new Felt IA16 home and using my 4 year old Kestrel 4000. I'm worried about the mud. The Kestrel was pretty new when the mud made a complete mess o f it three years ago. Don't want that to happen to another new bike.

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I left the new Felt IA16 home and using my 4 year old Kestrel 4000. I'm worried about the mud. The Kestrel was pretty new when the mud made a complete mess o f it three years ago. Don't want that to happen to another new bike.

Wuss. ;-)

It's dirt and water. They wash off.

I'm rolling the P5 and race wheels.
Looks even more badass when it's muddy.


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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Sweeney wrote:
I left the new Felt IA16 home and using my 4 year old Kestrel 4000. I'm worried about the mud. The Kestrel was pretty new when the mud made a complete mess o f it three years ago. Don't want that to happen to another new bike.


Wuss. ;-)

It's dirt and water. They wash off.

I'm rolling the P5 and race wheels.
Looks even more badass when it's muddy.

pretty sure I have a pic of that somewhere too....
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Sweeney wrote:
I left the new Felt IA16 home and using my 4 year old Kestrel 4000. I'm worried about the mud. The Kestrel was pretty new when the mud made a complete mess o f it three years ago. Don't want that to happen to another new bike.

Wuss. ;-)

It's dirt and water. They wash off.

I'm rolling the P5 and race wheels.
Looks even more badass when it's muddy.

Wuss, you bet. Today I re-cabled my 15 year old Trek 5200. If things get bad enough, I'll be riding that one!

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Is it muddy enough where trail shoes would be best ?
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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Gosh, I'm wearing trail shoes regardless.

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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Last year I wore my regular road running shoes and they were fine but it was dry.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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I've done AmZof all but 1 year, and have never NOT worn trail shoes.

YMMV.


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Sad to say I will miss AZ again this year as I am down in Houston for IMTX. Hope it pours on you slobs-- the only way AZ should be raced. Enjoy.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [MGoBlue] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry I'm missing this year. Wish all you goons and gals an epic day with epic weather! Will pull out a prior year's Zofingen shirt on Sunday AM and wear it with pride. Cheers!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Trihumor] [ In reply to ]
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Rain Sunday? I guess my road bike could use a bath anyway.

Website: http://liveandeatbetter.com/
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MGoBlue wrote:
Sad to say I will miss AZ again this year as I am down in Houston for IMTX. Hope it pours on you slobs-- the only way AZ should be raced. Enjoy.

I'm missing as well. Kind of funny, my son and I are in N.C. doing long course nationals and I expect to finish MUCH faster than the short course A.Z. Go figure.

Be back next year and then I'll probably let him given A.Z. a go. My wife would never forgive me if he crashed on that 1'st bike downhill which in my opinion is the "hardest" part of the entire race.

80 and sunny for us Saturday.
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Good luck this weekend. I did LC nationals in Dallas last November and enjoyed it thoroughly. Some fast people for sure. I sure don't understand the distance though. In my opinion, For long course it needs to be at least. 5k - 56m - 13.1m.
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Thanks - I couldn't agree more that 5m/30m/5m is not long course (short course at AZ) which is one of many reasons we are doing it. If it was truly long course - we wouldn't .
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We'll be hauling that Alberta Clipper (yeah, in May!) with us as we hit the road eastbound this morning. Should probably be out of New Paltz area by gun time, but will probably be keeping the shoe suck set on max.

STAY MOIST
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Rain just started in Ulster Co. Supposed to be over by Sat midnight. Yeah right!

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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
I've done AmZof all but 1 year, and have never NOT worn trail shoes.

YMMV.

I wore racing flats my first year, and felt every stone through the bottom of them. I could barely walk the next day.

Trail shoes the next two times, much better.

The time it was really wet (2013?), I had a second pair of shoes in a plastic bag in transition for the second run.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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Wore road shoes (Saucony Kinvara) for F1, was fine even in the wet 2013.



Wore racing flats for CWD (Saucony A5/6 with drain holes siliconed shut) and that has been fine for me also.

The lesson is...it really just depends on the person.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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CBJFan wrote:
Is it muddy enough where trail shoes would be best ?

I have run it in flats and trail shoes in all sorts of weather over the past 5 years. Given the forecast for soggy conditions, tightly tied trail shoes will be better choice
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [blwmhv] [ In reply to ]
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I'm wearing my Hokas (Clifton's) just cuz that's how I roll.

You skinny little aero triathlete types should stop frettin bout the wet trails and start worrying bout how you're gonna stay upright on your bikes with all the wind they're predicting. Don't want you and your facny discs getting blown all over the place ;)

Cold and windy, perfect for the well insulated!
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elvisruns2000 wrote:
Ok doods and doodettes, we're less than 30 days out from the best duathlon in America - American Zofingen and there hasn't been near enough smack going around.
Proud to say I'll be bringing my 'A' game for the 'C' race (that being Canadian Women's) for the first time. That'll leave me plenty of time to get beer and heckle people like Murphy's Law for a change.

I have to pull out of racing this weekend. Is it worth me telling the RD so that they can give my allocated number to someone else? (Not sure if there is a waiting list or something)
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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The crappier the conditions, the more EVERYBODY ELSE slows down.

Nature is a Mother.

PS - just a reminder about start times:
I'm about 99.999% sure that LC goes off at 7am, F1 at 7:30, and CWD at 8am.

Going back to '12 and prior, the start times were all 30 mins later.

But since '13, it's been:
LC 7am
F1 7:30
CWD 8am.

Please make a note of it.

(I may have posted incorrect times earlier in this thread. )


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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I'll take wind as I've got loads and loads of wind experience on 650 404's under my belt. My concern is moisture since I've not recently been using brakes downhill on wet carbon rims.

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:

But since '13, it's been:
LC 7am
F1 7:30
CWD 8am.

Please make a note of it.

(I may have posted incorrect times earlier in this thread. )


Thanks for posting that. I was going to arrive at 7ish, now thinking by 6:15.
I like to watch the crazy LC folks go off.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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That's what I do too.

Plenty of time for pre-race banter and admin, watch the other races go off, then warm up and nut up for our race.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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@ ML - A start time and start line. It's really that simple. Let's race! AmZof baby!!!


CeeCee wrote:
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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And some cold beers after!

You left out the most important part!!!


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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There's only one cross over. Most racers don't even realize it exists as they never see another runner coming the other way. One path is a wicked steep uphill and the other is 15 feet wide. No worries.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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First timer on the LC here. Can we do a clothing drop at an aid station? Or does that constitute abandonded equipment / littering?

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Just finished packing, didn't want to get screwed by a mother nature curveball so packed just about everything I own..if it ends up being dry and not too cold, I may just win the award for the most over packed person of all time.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [chbelair] [ In reply to ]
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not a chance. i trained hard for that award, and it's mine! ;-p

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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Gorgeous morning today, hope it stays decent for tomorrow. Does anyone know if we can pick up race "packets" today out at the race site ?
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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I don't 'know' for sure if you can or not.
Generally, in years past, you could swing by in the mid-late afternoon to pick them up.

I've always just gotten mine race am.
I think the longest wait I ever had was maybe 4-5 mins.
No need for a separate trip.

Lovely out this morning!
Don't get used to it. ;-)


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, beutiful morning. Going for a walk. Watch out tonight. Bring lots of shoes and socks.

GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY!

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It's fine to drop off cloths at an aid station. We'll do our best to return them to the pavilion.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Beer? Watcha tappin?
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Not sure yet. Any requests? Murphy?

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Packet pickup is at the race venue Sunday morning.

Parking opens at 6 am. Please arrive no later than 6:45 am.

Long course starts at 7 am, the middle distance at 7:30 am and the short course at 8 am.

Please yield registration line spots and bathroom spots to racers starting in an earlier field.

Parking is limited - please cooperate with the parking marshal. Parking is for racers only. Friends and families trying to arrive later must pay the park user fee and park in the assigned day use lot.

Weather looks ideal, but plan on wet trails from all the recent rain.

Good luck and be safe.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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tetsuoni wrote:
Not sure yet. Any requests? Murphy?

You getting kegs o' Keegan's again?
Or a pupu platter of cases?

If the former:
Mother's Milk, and 1 (or both) of Hurricane Kitty or Old Capitol, or whatever else they might have.

If cases:
SNPA, some good IPA (Flower Power, DFH 60 minute, Lagunitas, Sculpin, or similar.
And some other good ales.
Plus something lighter for those who like that.
And some PBR's for the f'n hipsters.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Watch out, Jimmy Buff (our old racing comrad) on Radio says "hail later today and 30 mph wind tomorrow"

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ML's got good taste in beer. Always prefer the draft. I'd put Sculpin at the top of that bottle list though.

Thanks for putting on the only race that matters once again.

See you gents in the morning!
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Some totally random thoughts the day before....in order of importance

1. As a "maturing" athlete I am thankful to be able to get to start line again and thankful to those who put on this event.
2. I wonder if the angels of mercy will be there with those life saving oreo cookies at the run aid station
3. I hope there is beer left for me by the time I finish
4. We don't have "hills" like this in Central Ohio
5. Drove the course yesterday....did I really sign up for this again
6. Dammit my legs better not cramp again on the bike, pedaling with one leg is hard
7. I hope there is beer left for me by the time I finish
8. There is not a better "Start" line in all of racing
9. Why didn't I start doing this race sooner, highlight of my racing year
10. Hope the weather is ...oh never mind
11. For those that have not done this race....what are you waiting for ?
12. Hope my brakes work before that first right hand turn !
13. I really dont like that first bridge on the way up Mohonk, I always think I am at the top but NOOOOO, just a little more to go
14. Sure hope there are no more than 3 of us in the LC 50 - 55 AG...I want a beer mug !
15. This race and the lead up to it is a great reminder to not take myself so serious and to enjoy life.

See you all in the morning and best of luck to everyone !
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Thank goodness we won't get shortchanged out of some epic weather this year.

It just ain't AmZof unless Mother Nature takes a hand.

Got out to the garage this am, prepping the DreamCrusher Express for today's pre-race shakedown ride, when I notice my F wheel is flat.
Not the usual "latex tubes lose 30 psi in 2 days flat", but flat-flat.
Better today than tomorrow!

Changed it out for a nice new latex tube, and got out for a quick, lovely ride.
Today is absolutely ideal outdoor recreating conditions.

Which is why we race tomorrow.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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F1 and CWD past champ will be live tweeting the race: @j_hirsch

Then driving me home. With my belly full of beer.

Website: http://liveandeatbetter.com/
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [holisticguru] [ In reply to ]
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Sun is back out in Shandaken. Looks like most of the storm went north and south of us. We are all good for tomorrow

Let's go!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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It is Wrath of God HAILING here right now. Insane.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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of course it is. wait, you mean here, right? Not TX...

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:
Sun is back out in Shandaken. Looks like most of the storm went north and south of us. We are all good for tomorrow

Let's go!


A few light sprinkles here in New Paltz. It looksa lots of sun on the other side of the ridge.

3 for PB rule is in effect, good luck to everyone.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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Great list!

Good luck and stay safe, everyone!
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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Game on.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Following live tweets and pics @j_hirsch!
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Just got home. It's SNOWING in Shandaken!!!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Geez Louise, can you stop drinking for a minute and post some updates?!!?!?
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CeeCee wrote:
Geez Louise, can you stop drinking for a minute and post some updates?!!?!?

NO. I CANNOT STOP DRINKING.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Then get a straw, keep drinking and give us some updates!

So far all we know is that two of you finished....
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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My wife snapped this cool pic right at the end of the CWD bike:




We just had a complete white out snow squall here and now the sun is back without a cloud in the sky.

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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That pic is cool and beautiful at the same time! She caught the whole vista.
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Sweeney wrote:
My wife snapped this cool pic right at the end of the CWD bike:




We just had a complete white out snow squall here and now the sun is back without a cloud in the sky.

Dude, you RULE.
When I grow up, I want to be just like you.
(sans the bionic hips)

GREAT day today, wind made things somewhat "interesting" on the bike for sure.

Always a pleasure to hang w/ all the AmZofians every year - it's always the highlight of my season.

CeeCee, here's the Executive update:
Jim Stafford (bike stud extraordinaire - beat me by 3 mins on the bike, and he's a coupla years older than I am) won CWD.
Colin Martin once again won LC.
I didn't catch the name of the F1 winner - sorry. I think he went about 5:08 or so, IIRC.
My buddy Phil Vondra took 3rd in F1. After "tapering" with a 6 hour, 38 mile trail run on Thurs afternoon.
D'OH!!!

I'll post up a RR when I get a little more motivation.

PS - my 520 had some tracking errors today, so several segments didn't show up.
However, my 310 was more accurate, so I got everything there.
In spite of some blustery wind conditions, I did 3:02 on the Mohonk descent. : o
Tied for my 2nd fastest, and only :02 off the KOM.
On a calmer day, I woulda had it for sure.


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That would be me F1 winner (Steve day)

I was hoping my chain would snap with 5 mile to go to end the pain

Stupid race , I love it

Well done everyone
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Jim Stafford (bike stud extraordinaire - beat me by 3 mins on the bike, and he's a coupla years older than I am) won CWD.
Colin Martin once again won LC.
I didn't catch the name of the F1 winner - sorry. I think he went about 5:08 or so, IIRC.
My buddy Phil Vondra took 3rd in F1. After "tapering" with a 6 hour, 38 mile trail run on Thurs afternoon.
D'OH!!!


Everybody knows Jim is bionic, and Phil had Cotes du Rhone in his water bottles. That's how it's done.

sink. bike. waddle.
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UKINNY wrote:
That would be me F1 winner (Steve day)

I was hoping my chain would snap with 5 mile to go to end the pain

Stupid race , I love it

Well done everyone

NOICE! Great job out there today.
You threw down an excellent time, considering the bike wasn't ideal go-fast conditions, w/ the wind, that power line down, etc.

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Stupid race , I love it

Yup.
That's it, in a nutshell.


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Results are up!!

http://prtiming.com/americanzofingen-2016results/#/results::1463354360913








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I got my ass handed to me today. At this point not entirely sure why.

It matters not, there's still no other race I'd rather do.

Kudos to all competitors, all volunteers, all support and John McGovern, the pag piping RD, who always gets it done.

Recap when I have my wits about me.
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At least you avoided getting geezered by Sweeney and that other young chap who finished just in front of him.


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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I admit to being a pussy in the wind , was blown across the road a few times so thought sod that !

Loved it really
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [UKINNY] [ In reply to ]
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Pussy in the Wind? Isn't that an Elton John song?


Goodbye UKINNY
Though I never raced you at all
You won the race all by yourself
While those around you crawled
They crawled out of the woods
And they whispered into your brain
They set you on the treadmill
And they made you change your name

And it seems to me you rode your bike
Like a pussy in the wind
Never knowing how to bike fast
When the breeze set in
And I would liked to have raced you
But I was just a gimp
Your panties blew down long before
Your legend ever did


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Obviously my favorite line is ' I was just a gimp'

You won't remember but you and I ran together last time I did this in 2013 chasing rich Burke

I was the first to go down with hypothermia
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [UKINNY] [ In reply to ]
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It's the most true line in the whole song. It's like Elton was singing about ME. ;-)

I'd forgotten that. Well, not the epic '13 conditions, naturally.
Ya gotta cut me some slack, I'm old and addled.

Anyway, hope you enjoyed my lame attempt at humor. Or humour, if you prefer.


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Meh.

I take solace only in the fact that I didnt smack my face on a rock on my near face plant and, that in true AmZof spirit, everyone stopped to make sure I was ok.
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Congrats on yet another big mug!
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stillrollin wrote:
Meh.

I take solace only in the fact that I didnt smack my face on a rock on my near face plant and, that in true AmZof spirit, everyone stopped to make sure I was ok.

Ah, who knows? It might have been an improvement!
Like that Simpsons episode where Moe's face gets smashed, and he turns into a movie star.

OK, maybe not.


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kdw wrote:
Congrats on yet another big mug!

Thx!
Would have preferred to be able to compete better for the win, but all things considered, coming home in 4th w/ yet another Big Honkin' Stein is a solid result for me these days.

And I managed to keep my streak alive by doing so - 11 AmZof starts, 11 AmZof finishes, never worse than 4th OA.
Thought it was in SERIOUS jeopardy this year.


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Your humble RD for the past 12 years loves all of you. You all make the race, not me.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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That's tough, being 50 and finishing 4th overall and you still don't "win" your AG. Great race, I can't even imagine doing "short course" in 9 more years.

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"When I first had the opportunity to compete in triathlon, it was the chicks and their skimpy race clothing that drew me in. Everyone was so welcoming and the lifestyle so obviously narcissistic. I fed off of that vain energy. To me it is what the sport is all about."
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Think it was cold yesterday? When I got up this morning it was 34. Now it's 32. I went out to walk and came back in for tights under my WU pants and a Woolie.

My glutes are killing me. Yesterday it was my calvEs.

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Not quite that brisk down here, but still rather nipply out this am.

Good thing we got our pool opened yesterday!
:p

Speaking of which, my toe held up fine all day yesterday (it was my calf that kept me busy), but when the pool guys showed up yesterday, the dogs were freaking out, and when I opened the door to let them out, the larger one stepped DIRECTLY ON MY BAD TOE.
It's been killing me ever since. Sigh.

Besides that, and the calf, I feel reasonably decent today.
Pretty much the only upside of having that "restrictor plate" installed for the runs was, I couldn't go too hard, so I couldn't bury myself, so less of a hole to dig out of today.
Yay?


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I actually didn't have any problems with the temperature yesterday, it was the damn wind and downed powerline (2 minute dead stop) that killed my bike.

Great meeting you and your wife yesterday. She was awesome out on course. As were you! Great job! You inspire.
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Ha!

I feel pretty good myself, which only makes me think I should've pushed harder. Monday morning QB'ing at it's finest ;)

There's always next year!
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The wind was special, indeed. My day was:
- slower than planned R1.
- ok bike, faster than publicly stated goal time but slower than what I thought I might be capable of, with a proper mix of WTF was I thinking staying in aero for that, and legitimate hope my bike would not get blown out from underneath me.
- R2 was all much slower than intended but I'll take neg splitting each lap. (ETA I guess I mis-read the on-site splits since posted results don't show this.)

My first overall female finish was nice, but I would have rather raced (or chased) for 2nd than defaulted to first. Damn, does that mean I have to do LC again...?

Well I love this event so will surely be back for some distance. I just gotta get better at conning, er convincing, friends to sign up.

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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"I take solace only in the fact that I didnt smack my face on a rock on my near face plant"

And ditto this. Yesterday I got to pat myself on the back for wearing my cycling gloves on the run, as I tripped and went sprawling for my 2nd time at Amzof. I was also quite pleased to have missed the big rock less than 6" from my head.

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Congrats on the LC finish (and win!!) - I give all the props to you poor wretches doing LC in May.

I can't even get ready for F1 by May anymore.


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Us - 2, Mohonk Preserve - 0. Yay!

Glad to hear it, and yes, congrats on the win. Hey, if your the only one fit (crazy) enough to show up and finish, you deserve it. Well done!
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Us - 2, Mohonk Preserve - 0. Yay!

Glad to hear it, and yes, congrats on the win. Hey, if your the only one fit (crazy) enough to show up and finish, you deserve it. Well done!

There was at least 1 other Womens LC starter - our own holisticguru was back gunning for another win, but it wasn't her day and she dropped out.

90% of success is showing up, and the other 10% came from simply not stopping.
Which can be the hardest part of all.


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ah missed that. Legs feel good, brain is still coming around ;)
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Whoo-Hoo, congratulations on your WIN!!!!!! That is a long @ss way do go.

I just got back to Long Island and after three hours in the truck, everything hurts again. I was duck-waddling carrying our stuff into this house.

Just to complete my Shandaken weather reports: we had ice on the deck this morning!!!!!

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Re discomfort, yesterday I think I left a little on the table, maybe there was a little something left in my legs. But omg the pain that settled in during the ride home... Terrible attempt at sleep and I still feel like I've been steam rolled. Guess I'd have to change my training load/strategy were I to do this one again 'cause this is certainly more discomfort than how I've felt following other races (except maybe my first IM, where I was one of the late finishers).

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Sweeney wrote:
Whoo-Hoo, congratulations on your WIN!!!!!! That is a long @ss way do go.

I just got back to Long Island and after three hours in the truck, everything hurts again. I was duck-waddling carrying our stuff into this house.

Just to complete my Shandaken weather reports: we had ice on the deck this morning!!!!!

WHY would somebody who has a house in Shandaken EVER go back to LawnGuyland?!??!!!

Is it like a weekend parole/furlough thing? ;-)


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Michelle has lived in this house for every year of her life except one. I gave up years ago that she would ever move.

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That's what happens when your parents don't kick you out. ;-)


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I've just been having fun reliving some of the old AmZof SMACKTALK / SMACKDOWN threads from years past.

Great way to kill time while polishing off another RecoverWrong(tm).

'08:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...%20zofingen#p2004699


'09:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...%20zofingen#p2521941

and '10:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ingen_2010_P2785361/

and what the hell, '11:

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...%20zofingen#p3315564

Slainte!


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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [UKINNY] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats on the win- and you got a sub 40 minute last run, great work! Didn't you do it in 2014 also? Thought we were together for most of the race that year. Hoping to get back some year, I still think it's the best race I've done.
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I got stopped twice at the power line. I guess it served as good recovery time.

A big thank you to the race director, volunteers and everyone involved with putting on is race.

I just got home after a 9 hour drive back to Ohio. Went for a quick 30 minute bike ride, had no strength but soreness isn't too bad.

This was my second time at this race and 2nd long course. This year was a bit of redemption for me. Last year I was crushed by the 2nd bike loop, I did finish but was glad they kept the lights on for me in the gazebo because it took me a long time. This year was a different story, I had a much better day. My goal going in was to go 9:30, I ended up at 9:42 and am quite happy with it. I tried to negative split the final run, didn't quite make it but all my splits were within 2 minutes.

I think I was the oldest long course finisher so I get a 1st place mug. I need to figure out how to get my bike to go faster ! I had a great time and can't wait to sign up for next year. I think my daughter may be joining me next year and doing cwd...how fun will that be !

Next up for me is powerman zofingen in September.
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Funny you mention Powerman. I was just looking into that today.

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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
I've just been having fun reliving some of the old AmZof SMACKTALK / SMACKDOWN threads from years past.

Great way to kill time while polishing off another RecoverWrong(tm).

'08:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...%20zofingen#p2004699


'09:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...%20zofingen#p2521941

and '10:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ingen_2010_P2785361/

and what the hell, '11:

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...%20zofingen#p3315564

Slainte!


Cool, I read some while I was taking a cr@p yesterday. I'll read some more when I cr@p later. Seems like a good time since, back then, you were really full of Sh!t!!!!!!!!!

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Brett I assume !

how you doing, i am going senile, in my head that was 2012 but I did not do it in 2012

another brutal year for me, my quads are trashed from hammering the downhills on the run and i am struggling to walk

even my arms hurt this year from battling the wind

i am sure i will be back next year - now to get ready for Placid

cheers Steve
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Agreed on the trashed quads. I have done a shit ton of heavy backpacking over the past year, which results in hips that are as solid as concrete. So I took advantage of that and hammered the downhills, could have done that all day long, but now....holy O shite. Everything from quads to lower back is very very angry. Ran the fastest 3 loops ever in the past 5 LC's.
I wouldn't give up a minute of that though.
This is the best...race...ever.
#6 LC in the books.
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Great job out there on Sunday from everyone. Especially the volunteers. The HS girl helping at the aid station later in the day was not a happy camper. After the sun disappeared mid morning there wasn't any chance at staying warm if you weren't moving (which was sorta like me on the second run).
Happy to have a CWD finish under my belt. I have no idea how I prepped and finished all my previous LC races. It was nice being able to make a left turn rather than heading back up Mohonk a second (or third) time. Sheer lack of training time was evident. Helped save some guy on the first run from a face plant on the second uphill section. Felt good despite not having run for the better part of the last 5-6 weeks trying to get past a calf muscle tear. Felt like I was OK for the bike but knee started barking at me about 2/3 of the way thru and started getting some quad cramps the last 5 miles. Fun, fun, fun having this race be my first transition run since last August! Knee pretty banged up and I had to shuffle with a really short stride to keep moving on the flats. Spent some time hiking and props to Main Street Doug for getting me to run with him for almost a mile before the knee and uphill near Table Rocks. He probably saved me a good 4-5 minutes. Knee was sore enough that I had to stop and walk even the downhills on the way back in.
I think the downhills pretty much obliterate my knee any more and the 8 hour drive home yesterday was spent biting my tongue and fidgeting around due to some hefty swelling and some serious LCL soreness. Glad my house is a ranch!
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krol wrote:
Helped save some guy on the first run from a face plant on the second uphill section.

That was me. Fortunately, my face stopped about an inch from a huge rock. Could've been a lot worse. Nonetheless, I really appreciate you (and the others) stopping to make sure I was ok. AmZof spirit at its finest. THANK YOU!

Good job gutting it out. I did it once undertrained. Once ;)
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Krol - THANKS AGAIN for the hand-up!!
Had the Founders last nite (yummers), working on a Fat Head's Head Hunter right now.
You are the MAN.

Always great to see ya back at AmZof, us OG's need to stick together.

Props for fighting thru on minimal training.
It's always hard;
you just go faster, or a lot slower, depending on fitness and injuries (or lack thereof, if yer lucky).

See ya next year!


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ML-
My pleasure! Next year will have to reserve you some Hop Juju. For some reason Fatheads puts it out as a seasonal in Feb/Mar so I pretty much drank up what I was able to get my hands on in April.
Next year I'll shoot for a better base of bike miles. The run will be what it be.
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I'll have to hit you back w/ some local goodness from around here. We've got quite a few awesome microbrew places all over NY now, so I'm sure I can throw together something pretty sweet for ya.


SO... anybody else out there gonna post up an AmZof RR for us?
Kinda quiet on that front this time around.


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Ok, I'm game-this was my third LC in 4 years, missed last year with my knees in revolt. Compared to the cold and wet of 13 and the "misdirection" in 14 I had a great day. Biggest difference was the bike, this was the first time I rode my time trial and the difference was everything. I rode a 5:04 compared with a previous best of 5:46 on my road bike. This was also the first time I used an aero helmet and I also swapped my Hed 6 rear for a Hed 9. The wind made things a bit sketchy at times, especially the top of the Minnewaska descent. I saw one fellow have his bike blown out from under him but he was ok. The aero goodies worked well! I rode with Picky Bars and EFS and managed to get about 1400 calories in on the bike, I don't think I could have managed that in warmer weather, aside from the wind the weather suited me well. My jersey was salt streaked when I took it off in T2. My run was a few minutes better than last time, I attribute that to walking the 3rd climb entirely on the loops after the bike and the double helpings of Red Bull on each loop. I swear I was running squares by the time it was over. I ran the loops in my Brooks which in hindsight was probably a mistake, my Hokas would have been a better choice as the trails were in good shape and my quads didn't like the pounding they took in the Brooks- I wore Cascadias. Overall my best by over 50 minutes and finally broke the 9 hour mark and have been smiling since the finish. The volunteers were great, the company excellent and the venue speaks for itself-see you all next year!
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Slow, I saw you coming up the final hill before you turned into the dirt road. You looked great, like you were about to have the great run that you did have.

Congratulations, you long course racers are the toughest in all of multisport.

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After reading and hearing about the powerman zofingen, I decided I had to go so last year I ran the usat long course nationals and qualified (not hard to do) to race in itu world championship race as age grouper for team USA. I am certainly going to get my ass handed to me but for sure will have a great time while it happens. We also have family and friends in Germany so making a bit of a vacation out of the trip and going to go see family and friends after the race.

There was one other person (I think his name was Jesse from Michigan) that did long course and is going to Switzerland. If you end up going let me know.
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I'm pondering signing up for the open category for 2017, and have another prior LC'er considering it too. I've got my destination race covered this year with Vineman.

But I look forward to hearing how you like it!

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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [krol] [ In reply to ]
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May 18, how's everyone's legs? I decided to participate in my work site 5 k today, figuring hey, I have a recovery run scheduled anyway.

There I was, JRA, when I passed the only female within sight. GTFO, I thought, I can't possibly be 1st. Turns out I was 2nd, but 1st masters.

What is this bizarro alternate universe I've slipped into where so few women show up for things? Sure, I work hard, but I'm just really not 1st place material.

Anyway, seems I've put the "ouch" back into my down stairs travels, after having earlier felt better.

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HUGE improvement, congrats!!

Yeah, a Tri bike is faster than a road bike (for most) at AmZof - who knew?
/pink.

That said - the CWD winner rode a shiny new Madone aero road bike w/ lower-profile aero wheels.
Given the winds that day, that might just have been the perfect call (for him) on the day.
(And he's a bike monster regardless.)

And you're right - trail conditions were surprisingly quite excellent.
A few splooshy spots, but otherwise really good.


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Good stuff, thanks for sharing and congrats! 50 minutes is a great improvement.
When I get my kids out of college I may just have to get another TT bike!

Seems like you've gained a lot of experience. How you keep coming back for LC is beyoond my comprehension though.
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"I saw one fellow have his bike blown out from under him but he was ok."

Gah! That really happened? (:-0

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Yes, he was about 25 meters in front of me, slow fall as he was climbing, I asked if he was ok and he replied he was good and was smiling when I passed. Lucky it wasn't on a descent.
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that last lap on the bike scared the crap out of me on the descent from Minnesaka. No way could I stay in aero. At one point I realized I was gripping the bars so hard that my hands started to cramp. So glad I wasn't running a disc.
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I was doing a fair bit of talking to myself with occasional outbursts of profanity, followed by trying to talk myself down from the death grip I had on the extensions. It was definitely interesting...

Anyone know what the gusts were? I just saw 15-20 mph on the weather report, but don't know if it takes something more than that to rock my aerohelmut like happened a couple of times.

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I feel bad for the F1 and LC riders - I'm sure it got worse as the day went on.

I had a disk (cover) and Jet90 front wheel, and definitely got pushed around a bit here and there.
Worst was a cross gust that pushed me across the lane at the big R turn before the straight on the Mohonk descent.
Really had to fight to not get blown all the way across and off the road.


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ML, what speed did you hit on the front descent? With the tailwind I eaked out 50.1 on the old bike, same as I did in my training ride on the new IA with no wind.

You can set the bar on see where everyone else comes in.

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Nothing all that impressive - max was only 51.4 per my 310.
(The 520 wasn't tracking properly thru there, so that segment didn't show up initially).
I've gone faster w/o race wheels and aero brain bucket.

My time for the segment was very good tho - 3:02.
That's only :01 off my best, and :02 off the KOM.

I carried a LOT of speed thru the turns, which somewhat made up for the lower terminal speed.

Going down from Awosting was WAY slower than normal.
The Million Dollar View is usually coasting at 35-37+ - on Sun I was pedaling and only hitting 30-32-ish.


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Yes, I think everyone lost time in the head wind between Minniwaska and Granite Rd compared to other years. I did feel, however, that the wind was pushing m up the first climb to Mohonk, making it the easiest I've ever gone up it. I did pass one guy walking the bike up it, I guess he wouldn't agree with me.

First run this morning on the trails at Bethpage St Pk. I was surprised, it felt pretty good. Just 38 minutes easy. I think it got the last of the kinks out. Pool at Hofstra later.

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There was a nice tailwind in spots after the turn onto Granite. That was quite welcome.

I still haven't done a thing since Sun.

Calf is still tight and knotted up a bit, so I'm not gonna run again until that improves.
Thought about a ride last nite after work, but I ended up taking a 2hr nap instead. D'oh!!

Will ride tomorrow and this weekend.
Maybe run if it loosens up sufficiently.


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I had the worst speed wobble on the Mohonk descent that I have ever experienced, scared the sh!t out of me. I usually hit 50 MPH, but had to ride my breaks down the entire way. Whenever I'd get close to 30, my bars would start to wobble violently...that coupled with the gusts meant my slowest descent ever. It wasn't as bad on the Minnewaska descent, but I spent more time out of aero there than I would have liked. I've ridden nothing but Zipp 808 front and back on this bike, but this was the first time I had anything like this happen...very strange.

On another note, found this little write up with some pictures: http://www.peak-magazine.com/...can-zofingen-16.html
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Since the thread lives... I mostly write these for myself, but figured I'd share;



Executive Summary: 5/5 AG (50-54), 34/48 Overall ā€“ 3:48:32


BOMOP Detail:


Run #1 ā€“ Went out fast with the group. Felt ok but HR was high (pushing 170). Knew that was not sustainable. Walked a bit on the first and second climbs. On the third, with people on my heels, I fell right at the Cairns. Fortunately, my face just missed a large rock. The group passed me (not before making sure I was ok ā€“ Thanks) and I never saw them again. It took the wind out of my sails and I walked to the top. Never felt great after that. Walked again behind the pavilion, Finished in 47:18. Not terrible but not the sub 45 I wanted.


Bike ā€“ Felt good to start. Got passed by one guy on the way up to Mohonk. I saw a group ahead and thought Iā€™d catch a few before the top but didnā€™t. Only passed one girl from that group on the descent. Wind held me back a bit, never hit 50+ like I have in the past. Got stopped by flagman bc of the downed power line. Probably lost 1-2 minutes and cursed like a sailor. 299 mostly sucked. Got passed by a twosome on 44/55 then 2 other guys on the way up to Awosting. Passed them both on the back side. Felt good after the sharp right, especially past Granit Hotel where I usually slow down. Did ok on the last steep hill then spun pretty well up the last section. Was somewhat surprised/disappointed with 2:00:51 finish. Think the wind and flagman cost me 5 odd minutes. Probably couldā€™ve pushed harder but thatā€™s mostly hindsight.


Run #2- Legs took a while to come around. Even so, I walked every uphill. For too long. Felt good on the carriage trails. Got close to one guy on the 2nd (?) climb but lost contact on the downhill. One of the guys that I passed on the bike raced by me after the wooden planks but they were the only 2 I saw the whole run. Had trouble pushing myself. Didnā€™t enjoy all the walking. Disappointing 56:35.


Expected better given the 100/100 conditioning I brought into the race. Actually itā€™s my second best time (3:40 in ā€™13) out of 4 AmZofā€™s but still disappointed initially. Mentally feel like I just gave in on the climbs.


Now that Iā€™ve had a few days to reflect I realize I canā€™t be too upset with the results. I donā€™t have a TT bike, other aero goodies, tri shoes, or, this year, even speed laces (my transtions sucked). If I really want to improve my times Iā€™ll have to address at least some of those. Humbled is more accurate. But thereā€™s a lot worse than being humbled by incredible athletes and the Mohonk Preserve. Hell, the reality is, at 51, Iā€™m happy to have made it to the start and finish (especially this year) without getting hurt. AmZof is still the only race that keeps me in the game. As usual, I met some nice people, drank some good beer with good company, enjoyed Mohonk and did the best I could. Humbled, but because of all that, Iā€™ll be back.


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Some great pictures. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: American Zofingen 2016 Official Thread [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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You got to the starting line, and finished, and all in one piece.
And then drank good beer.
That's a successful day at AmZof.

Thx for sharing the RR.


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Thanks for sharing. Glad you missed the big rock. Can't tell you how many rocks I smashed my toes into.

Good beer, good scenery and a true challenge make it a good day no matter the result.
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Sweeney wrote:
ML, what speed did you hit on the front descent? With the tailwind I eaked out 50.1 on the old bike, same as I did in my training ride on the new IA with no wind.

You can set the bar on see where everyone else comes in.

From Strava, for 5/15/16:
ML - 3:02.
(I deleted this ride since it was a dup, but kept the screen shot for this segment - pics or it didn't happen!)

Jim Stafford, CWD winner - 3:16.
John Blackburn - 3:18.
Nic Grala - 3:19.
Tibor Nemes - 3:25.
Jose Hernandez - 3:30.
Chris Belair - 3:32.
JP Partland - 3:34.

One of these things, is not like the others.


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I've now done this descent 6 times(LC 2015 and 2016). I was most comfortable with descents #2 and #3(nice weather and experience from first descent). This year, the wind and higher motorcycle/car traffic slowed me down...also I almost took the guardrail on the first wide left turn. Pretty good for a guy who doesn't have much more than highway overpasses to practice descents on. Looking forward to trying this segment out again next year....what's the weather forecast?
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I predict 85 and humid.

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Definitely pretty good for a flatlander.
Sunday was less than ideal conditions for ripping that descent, with the blustery side winds along there.

Sorry again about your bike issues - I hope you chewed the wrench at your LBS a new one for setting your chain up to be a land mine like that.

There is ZERO excuse for having too short a chain, to detonate your drivetrain if you inadvertently shift into the big/big combo.
(Which is an occupational hazard at AmZof for sure, and one I've made plenty of times, and that's with a 53/27 big/big combo.)


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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Definitely pretty good for a flatlander.
Sunday was less than ideal conditions for ripping that descent, with the blustery side winds along there.

Sorry again about your bike issues - I hope you chewed the wrench at your LBS a new one for setting your chain up to be a land mine like that.

There is ZERO excuse for having too short a chain, to detonate your drivetrain if you inadvertently shift into the big/big combo.
(Which is an occupational hazard at AmZof for sure, and one I've made plenty of times, and that's with a 53/27 big/big combo.)

I haven't been able to find one person who can explain why you would setup a bike chain so tight that it won't go into all 10 cogs...the LBS admitted to their mistake, offered some free stuff to make up for it, but at the end of the day it doesn't take away from the fact that I was stuck on the side of the road with a busted wheel and derailleur. On the bright side, I got to meet Fitz and Joanna(the couple that picked me me and gave me a ride back to transition), they were a super nice couple, they shared their scones with me and we had a few beers together at the Pavilion.
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What happened to your wheel? Chain wrap around some spokes?

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What happened? Who set up that chain? Why didn't they replace it or add a couple links? What kind of free stuff did they offer you?

I'm at the beach in Garden City, SC. The ocean is too churned up to swim right now so I'm taking it easy for the rest of the day. Flatland running and biking for a few days then back to the Catskills for some more hill riding and painting my house.

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Who cares? Since when has bombing the downhills been a winning strategy at AmZof? :-)
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chbelair wrote:
Looking forward to trying this segment out again next year....what's the weather forecast?


As it does every year; the forecast calls for PAIN!

Sorry to hear about you troubles. How did it happen?

Right now I'm at Garden City Beach, SC. It's a crappy day outside and the ocean is all chopped up. Hoping for some nice flat ocean to swim in and a couple of days of flat riding and running before I head back up to the Catskills to paint my house.

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I finally got around to writing down my race summary. Just sharing.....

Pre-Race
I have been looking forward to this for a year. Last year in my first attempt at this race, I got humbled in every way. I suffered terribly in the heat and humidity last year and ended up DFL but I finished. Being a competitive person, just finishing isnā€™t good enough, I donā€™t do this to participate, I do this to compete and last year I wasnā€™t able to do that.

I drive over to Fishkill on Thursday before the race. I like to take a couple of days and just hang out, not doing much of anything when I travel to a race just to get into some kind of routine. Friday I get up really early, get something to eat and go for a quick check ride to make sure my bike is ready to go. No issues and all is in working order. I do some work from the hotel and then go out to the race site to drive the bike course. Its raining and foggy/cloudy, canā€™t see the beautiful views, oh well, the roads look good and I remember the route pretty well so I shouldnā€™t get lost on Sunday. I drive back to Fishkill and go see a movie to kill time (Captain America civil war with Ironmanā€¦not a classic but reasonably entertaining). I get some dinner, go back to the hotel and settle in for the night. Saturday I get up really early and go to the red line diner for breakfast. I talk to the night crew and one person sitting at the bar eating who had just gotten off of work. I go for a short ride and run just to wake the legs up a bit and go back to the room and layout my clothes and decide what all to take given the weather forecast. I prep all of my bottles and food (GU and Honey Stinger). Re-check my bike and then go out to kill time. An early dinner, always chicken parmesan, this time from Olive Garden in Poughkeepsie. Back to the room, call the wife and daughter who are in Boston visiting friends and then they will drive to the race on Sunday morning. I call home and talk to my son, getting him to send me some positive vibe for Sunday. Off to bed early but I donā€™t sleep very well. A bit unusual for me, I can usually sleep anywhere, anytime. I am truly uptight. Anyway, I finally fall asleep and the alarm gets me up at 3:00. I get dressed and go to the Red Line Diner for pancakes and bacon. The night crew wished me luck and its back to the hotel, load the bike and drive to the race site.
I get there a bit early, which I always do. Take my time getting everything setup, I pick an end bike spot, lay everything out and get checked in. Others are arriving, I meet a couple of guys from Connecticut who are doing their first LC. They tell me their goal time is 10 hours or better. I meet Jesse from Michigan, we talk for a bit and realize we are both also doing Powerman Zofingen in September. Its his first LC also. Its time to get to the best start line in racing. Just like that we are off....

Run 1
My overall goal is 9:30. Which will be an 1:40:00 better than last year.

My goal for Run 1 is to keep my heart rate in Zone 2 and go 53, including the climbs no matter how slow I have to go. To achieve my goal, I cannot burn myself up in Run 1. We start out and I drop to the rear, keeping my pace down and heart rate in low Zone 2. It feels SO EASY that I just want to go faster, but I donā€™t. We start up the first climb and my HR starts to rise so I power hike the rest of the climb. As soon as it flattens out, I start running. I keep this up thru the rest of Run 1. Run low Zone2 on the flats and downs, power hike the uphill. I get to T1 and that first run was SOOO easy. I finished in 51. So far so good.

Bike Leg
My goal for the bike is better than 5:45. I start out on lap 1 and start the first climb up Mohonk. Its hard ! and I focus on managing my watts and heart rate as best I can. I end up in my last gear (more on this later) and try to spin and relax. I see the first bridge and remind myself that it gets steeper so stay patient. Finally I get to the top of Mohonk and start the descent. I donā€™t feel too good and am immediately worried. The bike is where I got crushed the year before and I am not too confident after the first climb. Going down the descent, its too windy to let it roll out so I manage my speed by sitting up and light breaking. I hit a top speed of 47. My focus is on taking in calories, hyrdrating on schedule and recovering from that first climb because next up is the climb to Minnesawaka. I get stopped at the fallen power line and have to wait a few seconds but not too bad (kind of glad, got in a little recovery). I start up the climb again and it feels like it just goes on forever but I stay patient, manage my watts and heart rate, eating and drinking on schedule. I get to the top and the cross winds are bad. I am not the best bike handler so I am really conservative on the descent. On to the far side flats. Here my focus is first on getting in some recovery and into a rhythm. This course just doesnā€™t let you get into a rhythm for very long. I do recover pretty well and soon I see the sign for 1.8 miles to Mohonk Mountain house and up the mountain I go.

The second time up Mohonk, I feel better. I stay under control and donā€™t push it though. I get into my last gear (more on this later) and spin to the top. The rest of the lap was uneventful. I eat and drink on schedule and have a good lap enjoying the ride.

I get to the sign for 1.8 miles to Mohonk Mountain House and start the 3rd time up Mohonk. I see two riders in front of me and this gives me someone to chase. I start the spin up Mohonk and shift into my last gear and guess what, its easier than the last two times up. On the first two laps I thought I was in my last gear but now realized that I had one gear leftā€¦and thank goodness because I am getting tired. I push it a bit harder this time, spin to the top and go thru the descent without issue. I start the final big climb still chasing now 3 riders in sight. I catch one on the way up to Minnesawaka. The cross winds are just brutal this time and I realize I am gripping the bars so hard that my hands are cramping. I will myself to relax, finish the descent and start the far side flats. I catch another rider which turns out to be in the middle distance race. I keep pushing the pace a bit and catch the 3rd person right before the start of the Mohonk climb and they were also a middle distance racer, so I didnā€™t catch anyone on the bike but didnā€™t get passed either. I finish up and get into T2.

Run 2
My goal is 2:45, which I just missed.

I put my trail shoes back on and head back out on the run course. I am feeling GOOD. Did I leave too much in the tank on the bike ? I use the same strategy, run the flats and downs, power hike the ups, trying to keep heart rate in Zone 2. Lap 1 passes quickly and I finish in about 55 minutes. Better than expected and I feel good.

I start out on Lap 2 and see my family as they arrive at the race site. They give me a big shout and that gives me a boost. I tell them ā€œall systems are goā€ and into the woods I go. Same strategy but now I am willing to let my heart rate go up a bit higher. About half way thru the lap I realize that I am ā€œhighā€, I really do have a buzz too bad it didnā€™t last long. The lap is going ok and after climb 3 I check my watch and realize I have slowed a bit so I push it harder through the end of the lap, finishing again in about 55 minutes. Better than I had planned but, this lap hurt, pushing hard at the end really took a lot out of me. I told my daughter that this lap really hurt.

One more. The crowd in the Gazebo cheers / jeers me on as I head out for the last time. I get to the woods and get thru climb one but now it really hurts. I just want to find a rock, sit down and cry. No way though I keep pushing and work really hard and get through climb 3. Now its close to the end and mentally I know I can make it. I keep running and end up running the third lap in 57 minutes.

Summary
I missed my goal time by 12 minutes but am thrilled with how I executed the race. I finished 1/2 in the 50 ā€“ 55 division and 10/13 overall. I managed my calories well, I stayed hydrated and kept my pace as consistent as possible. Some numbers. My HM run time in training is 1:39, the AMZof course is just that hard where I end up running 11+ minutes / mile. On the final run, I ended up doing 2:45 at HR of 143 (upper Zone 1 for me). On the bike, I have an FTP of around 250 right now, and hold 200+ on 100 mile ride in the flat lands. At AmZof, I took it ā€œeasyā€ and ended up avg 196w in just under 6 hours with normalized power of 202 and avg HR of 138 (Solid Zone 2 for me). Just impossible to keep watts low on this course.

I learned that I have a lot of work to do on the bike before Powerman Zofingen in September.

A quick shout out to Bob Duncan who has helped me improve so much. I told him that this race is a 9:30 interval workout. Max out your heart rate, restā€¦..rinse and repeat.

I just love this race, the scenery is beautiful, the course is HARD and everyone is so nice. I am ready to sign up for next year and try to break 9 hours but only possible if I can figure out how to make my bike go faster up those hills. (I think my daughter is going to do the CWD next year, what a thrill that will be)
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Congrats on a solid effort and great execution.
A PB at AmZof is always a good thing.
Thx for sharing the RR.


float , hammer , and jog

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Nice write up. I too conclude the only way to be faster is to be faster up hill. We had the same run strategy but I undershot my pace on R1 and my garmin died shortly into R2 so I had nothing to pace off of but the gazebo clock.

Guess I can start from the top.

Hi, my name is Sue, and this was my 5th time registering for AmZof. I DNF'd F1 in 2012 b/c I was afraid finishing would destroy me for a subsequent race. I was injured 2013 so couldn't train for a couple months, but opted to bike 1 lap since I was there to support friends anyway. Poor CWD finish in 2014. Slayed my F1 demon in 2015 and was motivated to call myself an LC finisher for 2016. Goal time was 10:05 and derived from probably under shooting the bike with 2:15 per lap and over shooting the runs with a hoped for 10 min miles - power walk up, run everything else.

Got pre-race stationary trainer spin in, but probably should have used a little higher resistance. Arrive with just the right amount of time, boldly select what I think is the best rack spot possible, only to have someone else rack leaning up on the side of the rack. NP, I honestly expected someone to get grouchy and move my bike all together. Moral - my goal was to not automatically sell myself short; first come, first serve, and so far so good.

True to my expectations, Christine had registered. Stalking race results (freely available on her blog) I see I've posted comparable times in some prior races, but realize also she's improved over the years. I'm missing the 2nd place mug from my collection so am happy I should earn it this day, but still sad the field wasn't larger.

We're off, my calves feel tight. What the...? I back off my already easy pace, concerned about straining anything sooo early in the day. I fell off the back as I knew I would as per my race strategy. Stayed positive though I knew this made me look under prepared.

I took a trip up the w/e of the Boston marathon for my 1st 2 loop no stop ride of the course, on my new bike. 650's spin so fast it freaks me out on the Mohonk decent and I much prefer the feel of the big girl wheels I ride now. But the gearing - wasn't sure how the move from 172.5 to 165 mm crank and compact to mid compact was going to work out for me. I think climbing was harder than I remember with either my P2c or my Trek Domane. Anyway, back to race day...

Terrible terrible shimmy on the decent. Speed wobble? Felt like my front wheel was loose. Gah, was the 404 a mistake? Surely not, I told myself. I was bolder on the other decents. Have riden them enough to believe I could handle them even with some wind, but holy crap, was I questioning my sanity at times. (Disclaimer, I do that every damn time I show up for this race, so maybe I have no common sense). Felt like I was flying through the flats and was unfamiar with how speed would carry through these turns, but I got more confident each lap and my best Strava split here was on lap 3.

As expected, I was passed by F1 riders on my 1st lap (7 of them) and again on lap 2 (2 of them), and by the LC lead (sad face). Was surprised to see female rider at the water stop by transition - have I really caught her? I expected to be chased down on the 3rd climb and when I wasn't I concluded this was some other woman and not Christine.

On lap 1 I congratulated myself for dressing right - I feel great! - I thought. Plan was to eventually shed a layer at one of the water stops but instead I got colder. I was happy to execute my rolling dismount headed into T2 and to have made up time vs plan.

T2 is where I realize I missed the lap button on my 920 and had just recorded a 6+ h T1. Oops. Battery is dying, WTF? I get the shittiest life out of this thing, having pulled it off the charger this morning and it's only been on for 7 h? Am told I'm the first woman back which confuses me. No way (I think), did she drop out? Better assume not. I head out on the run wondering how long before she catches me and trying to pace myself to leave enough to hang on when she does.

But then my watch died and I grew to be convinced she'd dropped. Now what? Bury myself to finish last? Eh, no, but I picked up the pace with the intent of negative splitting the run laps and would have gotten it if I didn't trip and go sprawling in the stretch leading up to the plank walk.

In the end I came in at 10:25 to an empty gazebo and a fair degree of disappointment. Didn't meet my time goal and didn't even push myself. I failed to race.

Now I have to sign up for this damn thing again, and remember to unpack my A-game instead of leaving it in the car with my extra gear.

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Thanks for sharing your RR. Your report reminded me of something I forgot to mention...my bike was shimmying on the descents too but not from speed wobble....damn it got cold. Shivering on the downs.

That hard right onto the plank was tricky. Hope the fall wasnt too bad. I know the feeling of coming into an almost empty gazebo but so what..its a really tough race and having the strength mentally and physically to finish it regardless is an accomplishment. See you next year ?
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