Really? I thought you were like 1m60 or less...

nope

I thought I am bigger than Sergio :-)

I'm the only midget size poser riding a 53 cm P3 and it actually fits me quite well:

Sergio is taller than me...maybe 1m75 or so...5'9''...
I think 1m72 is 5'8''

but I ride a 51cm

That would be me ;(



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SERGIO Miguel Gon�alves MARQUES Nationality: Portuguese Age: 24 Height: 1,75 m Weight: 68,5 kg Rest Heart Rate: 32 bpm

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http://sergiomarques.home.sapo.pt/english/about.htm

Well at least I have more cosmetic bulk than Sergio (at 64 Kg and several cm shorter...)

Hummm, I'm 166cm - Japanese - Male

What the hell dude you're almost 5' 8", You got me beat by 1/2-1". I thought you were like 5'4" or somehing like that.

I can't believe that 5'7" is "forum midget" status as 5'10" is national male average.

~Matt

so...it's what in reality? 20% of the forum is shorter than me? ;-)

I'm 5'7" - 129lbs. (126lbs at race weight!)

Wow, People are always saying I'm skinny at 5'5" and 145lbs. You are really thin

My bf% sits below 5% probably most of the year.

I have to find out where all you Japanese guys shop for clothes... maybe a trip to IM Japan is in order. :-)

Skinny at 145lbs, 5 5? Those people are either your family or your employees ;-)

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hmmm...am 142lbs and 5'8''...and I am not skinny.

Thats kind of what I was thinking. BF is right around 9% So I could loose a little but not much. The family, friends and employees all think I'm skinny. But we won't go into that - beleive that was already hashed out a few weeks ago!

I go to Mens Warehouse - they alter everything!

People in the normal population are so used to seeing others as overweight that when someone is in half-way decent shape they think they are skinny.

This past fall I was 205 lb (@6'2" or 188 cm) people told me that I was too skinny. When I raced Ironman Arizona they thought that I lost too much weight too fast. Now that I am finally approaching a decent body comp I'm 170 and non-triathletes are always asking me if I eat enough... If only they knew how much I really eat ;-) I still think that to optimize my run I could stand to lose another 5-10 lbs, but that will have to wait till IMAZ... They are going to freak out.

Jeezus, you guys are all skinny f**ks.



;-)

Very true. In triathlon circles I'm always told I'm too heavy and bulky and among my "normal" friends I'm too skinny.

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Sheesh. You should hear my grandmother at xmas time. "EAT EAT EAT! YOU'RE SO SKINNY!" I ate double of everyone at the table! I out-eat my buddies who weigh 50lbs more me!

After 5 hours of eating chips, I'm pretty sure you're heavy and bulky now ;-)

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smartasscoach.tri-oeiras.com

we had a dinner at Carinos during the training camp in EP. Everyone was getting portions for 3-4 and the waitress seemed a bit concerned...
Paulo too but no one really cared ;-)

So I guess this means Francois is not only hot girl , but a want to be, poser midget too.


Way to go Big Guy

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Take care of your body, its by far the coolest thing you're going to ever own.- Can't remember who told me this, but I love it.

I'm seeing more of my normal friends now so I'm trying to blend in.

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Bad news for you, dude...there is no way you are 5'8". You're barely 5'7" in shoes!!!

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That was a great meal ;-) Good choice on the restaurant! I felt like it fueled me so well that I hardly had to eat on the bike the next day for a 5 hour ride.

Not everyone... ; )

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I'm 5'7" and currently 150lbs....133lbs when in shape.

When I was single and dating online I was 5'9" but alas no more.

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I have three kids 15,10,7 - two girls and a boy. Anyway I eat more than the three of them combined.

Back in my 20s & 30s I could never get over 130lbs. It's kind of interesting since I've started doing triathlon, starting in my late 30's, I've actually put on weight. I used to do lots of Karate - at least 10+ hrs per week.

Guess I'm a slacker

He's at least as tall as I am- 5'7" 1/2.....kj

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I thought that was when he was wearing your high heels?

jesus h, guys. i'm right in your height range at 5'9"!!

never thought that i was anywhere near midget status... :(

You people that are 5'7" and 130ish (and not female) really need to beef up. I'm 5'7" and my race weight is 150-155, and that's thin. I suppose skeletal construction plays in here as well, but sheesh...

I have to shop the boys section for clothes these days. I get to wear shirts with monsters and match box toys on--JK. I do find it funny that with all the fat americans, that a 29in waste in the mens section is nonexistent these days. They start at a roomy 32 with stretch panel Dockers, man is this a fat country. Even the 30's I find are bigger than a decade ago.

Actually, I am the forum Midget- 1.64m-



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looks like there is a team shortwitch.com in the making, with Bjorn as our honourary Gulliver/Clydesdale team manager amongst the Lilliputs after his 5 hour potato chip/Ironman watching extravaganza :-). Man, the entire shortwitch team could draft Bjorn and Kus when they are a mile up the road :-)

well, if you're trying to blend in, come to my house. i'll make you stuffed french toast in the morning, with a fried egg and esspresso (or screwdrivers, whatever you choose ;)

at night I'll make you braised roasted beef with herbed mashed potatos and honey glazed carrots with a nice red wine (or dark beer, again, you choose :)

lol...

Team shortwitch that is very funny!!!!!!!!!!

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5'8" racing weight about 150lbs (probably could get to 145 and be healthy to race, but I like eating too much!) I ride either a 54cm or a 53cm depending on the make.

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Bjorn- You looked huge next to Backstedt(sp) at interbike. People always talk about what a huge cyclist he is, yet he still has little girly arms.

We are losing the fitness middle class in America. The fit get fitter and the fat get fatter.

Am I missing something...."i'll make you stuffed french toast in the morning"...aren't you married?

~Matt

I am 5 foot 6 inches and weigh in at 130 pounds (125 on racedays). Ride an XS lucero. Triangle on the bike is so small that i can't even fit a bottle cage in it. I also shop in the boys section for clothing and for shoes. Confessions of the vertically challenged. I am new to this site and will be losing my virginity at IMFLA in 2 weeks. Couldn't make the NBA, so i chose triathlon!!

yes i'm married!!! i was talking about cooking for him, as a joke, to put some weight on him in order to be more like "normal" people. lol! (BTW--lots of people come to eat at my house, i'm always cooking! people over all the time, it's fun :)

I guess I've just always heard the pickup line that goes something like "How do you like your eggs in the morning?" or something like that...

~Matt

what is my photo doing in a thread containing the word "midget"???

is that suppose to mean anything????

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When it hurts is when it feels good ;-)
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ditto that...what's with sizing starting with M for a lot of clothes companies these days? I own stuff that's size XS. and at least a few items of women's clothing because the male equivalent was too big. BTW, I'm 1.67m. I thought Francois was shorter too.

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Sergio I wasn't calling you a midget. I was replying to Dev Paul who was wondering if he was bigger than you:

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...i?post=580606#580606

I'm 5'4'' and tip the scales at 118 lb.

LOL!!! I didn't even think about that...:)

You guys are tall

I'm only 5'3.5" (1.61) meters and feel heavy at 145lbs but a lot of my work friends say I'm thin. The guy behind me is like 5'10"



jaretj

A Lilliputian??!! I'm 1m69, believing that your are 1m72 this makes me just 3cm shorter than you. But I don't believe you are 1m72cm.... ;-)

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Technique sets the upper limit to where your fitness will take you...

How can a 53cm P3 frame fit you well? Do you have really short legs? Or did you ask Gerard to make a custom made frame, with a 53cm written on it? :-)

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Technique sets the upper limit to where your fitness will take you...

Make sure you get Brennab1234 for the women's team (http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...;;page=unread#unread).

4'11" - that's hard to beat!!!

Yep, we run fast and get a really nice draft off of all the "tall" people. The nice thing though is that our bikes weigh less!

Honorary Male Pro: Sergio Maques (squeezes in at 5'9")...hey sergio, this is short for an Ironman pro...

Honorary Female Pro: Natasha (5'3")...and anyone who does kona without base bars to "optimize free speed" is on our team

Team Captain: Francois

Team Body Guard: Bjorn....if you mess with us, we'll send Bjorn to lay his cosmetic bulk into you...so leave us alone

All Star Masters Poser: Dev Paul

Shortwitch Poser starting lineup: Sedi, JarretJ, DavidC, ShawnF, MattinSF, Riceball, CGtriguy, Mark016, jasonogk, trirtuna.

Team Chef: Kittycat (don't know how tall she is, but we need someone to beef up the lilliputs on the team...)

Applications for team shortwitch 2006 are now closed.

Team shortwitch, will be hosting the trade media at the team launch event at a Discotheque in Milano in Q1 2006. The Lion King, Mario Cipolini has graciously agreed to host and coordinate this event, which promises to be colourful.

Noting the high demand for using Shortwitch as a channel for corporate marketing promotion, Team Shortwitch is currently soliciting bids for the following sponsorship roles:

1. Team Bike Sponsor
2. Team Wetsuit Sponsor
3. Official Team Airline
4. Team Apparel sponsor
5. Team running shoe sponsor
6. Official Team Microprocessor
7. Official Team Internet Sevice and Wireless Provider

The team will also be reviewing the numerous applications that it has received for Directeur Sportif. The early front runners are Pedro Delgado, Lucho Herrera and Greg Welch.

Team Shortwitch is a wholly owned subsidiary of HEADWIND promotions LLC, funded by an assortment of tier 1 Silicon Valley Venture Capitalists, disgusted with the meagre -50% ROI on technology portfolio companies. An Initial Public Offering for Team Shortwitch is projected for Q1 2007 on the NASDAQ.

My self-esteem is shattered! Am I too tall at 5'8" to make the team?

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You're pushing the envelope. We might have to send you to the farm team, unless of course you beat Sergio, then you can take the pro slot on our team.

The Clydesdales get their own category. Maybe we should start petitioning for our own category. What should the cutoff be (no puns intended)

Any Team Shortwitch roster's gotta include Chris V. AKA cvillatri. His nickname is Torito or Little Bull and he didn't get it by being tall and weak. He's maybe 5'4" but he is FREAKISHLY strong and as heavily muscled as he is (big quads, bigger chest) he is still able to run 35ish for his 10K. Oh yeah, he always has a smile on his face and is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.

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"Do you spend time with your family? Good. Because a man that doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man" V. Corleone

I can't stop ROFL!!! :-))

And...yuppiiiiii I'm on the team!! :-P

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Technique sets the upper limit to where your fitness will take you...

Ha , skinny I was 6'6" 175lb in high school , I have gained some ballast since then .

I am only 3cm taller than you????? Shit...

Kittycat is officially on the team - she revealed her height on another thread.

[reply]You're pushing the envelope. We might have to send you to the farm team, unless of course you beat Sergio, then you can take the pro slot on our team.[/reply]

What if I wear shoes with really thin soles and mybe hunch my shoulders a bit?

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I know I look a lot taller...LOL :-))

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Technique sets the upper limit to where your fitness will take you...

Don't feel bad I didn't make it at 5'7"

~Matt

[reply]When I was single and dating online I was 5'9" but alas no more.[/reply]

LOL!

I was a "Dynamic World Traveler" when I was online.

I used to tell the truth about my height, 5'9", and that is in my barefeet. Evidently all the girls read that as 5'6".

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I guess I'm an ignoramus, Bjorn, but how big are you?

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Take everything I say with a grain of salt. I know nothing.

At the rate I'm shrinking, I'm might qualify for this team in not too many years.

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Take everything I say with a grain of salt. I know nothing.

So true. I'm 5'11.5" and ~162 pounds. I've got a nice winter-warm layer of padding around my middle. Bodyfat probably above 18%. Yet people are always telling me how skinny I am. I just think, "You have no idea..."

I should be racing at about 152 pounds. But the coffee shop across the street has started making this shortbread...they manage to get 3 oz of butter into a 2 oz piece of shortbread...I just cannot say no.

You guys realise that the shorter the person, the stronger (relatively speaking) he is, right?

Strength = (height)^{2/3}

i.e. strength only increases with the 2/3 power of a person's height, hence the taller one is, the (relatively) weaker he is. This also places a limit on how tall land-based animals (including humans obviously) can get since at some point the muscles will not be able to support the mass of the creature (that's why beached whales die: their skeleton collapses under their own weight).

I mention this just in case anyone believed that short stature is an impediment to triathlon success (although shorter people do have a disadvantage on the downhills).

John (1.67m/5'5.5", 133lbs/60.5kg)

P.S. Ultimately, the size of animals rests on the values of the fine structure constant (which controls the strength of the electromagnetic force that holds us together), and the gravitational constant (which determines the strength of gravity that tries to squash us to the ground).

Sedi must be really strong then!

I honestly dont look a lot different at 133 or 150. I have a little more definition and my face is a little more cut or gaunt as my wife calls me, but I seem to carry my weight pretty evenly and I'm not particilarly thin either.

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From http://www.genderweb.org/general/ave_bo.phtml

IN HEIGHT FROM THE GROUND:

nominal nominal
ITEM MALE sigma FEMALE sigma FEMALE
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Top of Head 68.60 | 2.74 64.25 | 2.58

According to this 68.3% of the male population is in the 65.86" to 71.34" range. That's ~6'6" to 6'11" I'm less than a sigma off of average, how am I a midget?

I'm saying our criteria needs to be tightened up here. Everyone just can't jump on the midget bandwagon it just cheapens the name.

~Matt

Thats 5'6" to 5'11" not 6'6" to 6"11. BTW there are 12 inches in a foot.

So we need some guidelines for membership, 5�7� & below for men � what about women?

We might have to have a steel cage death match to decide who gets to be the team coach because I think SAC and czone are pretty close at about 5'8". You might as well add my wife to the team...she stands a hefty 5'1 1/2" and is a pretty bad-ass AGer. If you remember from an earlier thread, ASICS doesn't make kids shoes (yet), so I can't be the footwear sponsor ; )

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5'7" and below? I'm out at a stealthly 5'9"!!!

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So Francois, are we taking Welch, Delgado or Lucho Herrera as our Directeur Sportif ? Do you have word yet whether Air France or Quantas have signed up as our airline sponsor ???

 What's with all this metric system stuff. Don't you know that confuses us Americans. Let's try and keep it simple, OK? As you can tell, there are not many rocket scientists on this forum. Otherwise, we would all know by now the optimal tire width and psi for our cool bikes.

can we say 1m72 as the limit?

"...not 6'6" to 6"11."

Big midgets?

~Matt

If that is the limit (172 cm), will the whole team be able to draft behind Bjorn, or do we need to get him to bring out Magnus Backstedt as well so we have the full Swedish Deisel Engine Compliment pulling the train?

Yeah this is slowtwitch not the NBA. The NBA is probably the only place where you can find a 6'5" short guy.

the limit has to be 1m72...I was the main example for short dude for years here...so I have to be in the team

If it's 1.72m, then I will need to resign from the team immediately. This is a sad day for me. : (

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I'll go with 1.72 that's about 5"6" and some change right? Now do we need to establish a maximum bike size:) I'm riding a 48 kestrel & 49 QR.

dude, you're out...you don't belong.
Tracer the racer can join though ;-)

"If you remember from an earlier thread, ASICS doesn't make kids shoes (yet), so I can't be the footwear sponsor"

Yup...still waiting for my size 5 Gel Nimbuses... I'm being patient though! ;-)

One can actually see this relationship when one plots the world records in weight lifting in the various weight categories, against the mass of the respective weight lifters: the resulting line has a slope of 2/3; one of those affrimations of the power of science.



Wasn't there a weight lifter from eastern Europe who had swept the world championships and Olympics for many years in the featherweight category (58kg?), was really short (1.55m?), and was nicknamed "pocket Hercules"? Maybe someone from Shortwitch should take this screen name.

John

Francois.. I hate to break this to you but you are NOT 5'8:-) that's like Paulo.. he is 5'8.. if that is the case, I am 5'6:-)

I guess I'll take jgrat suggestion and become SEDI "The Pocket Hercules"!!! :-)

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Technique sets the upper limit to where your fitness will take you...

I hate to break it to you but I never said I was 5'8'', I said I was 1m72 which is somewhere in between 5'7'' and 5'8''...Paulo is more 1m75 maybe a tad more.
but I am sure you can join the team ;-)

I knoe.. At 5'4 1/2, I am consider short. But tell you what.. I feel like a giant here in honolulu, compared to those japanese women:-)