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The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine
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One of my roadie buddies who just so happens to kick major butt at time trials just got a BMC TT01...He put a thread up on our clubs board about the whole build..

The pictures are great but I just saw the thing myself...unbelievable!


Here is the link:

http://www.westwoodvelo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [alexbel] [ In reply to ]
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Tell me that the pool shown in the pictures is not his personal pool.
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [mhemberg] [ In reply to ]
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That's Floyd's bike. He says that they are pics that BMC sent him to show some of the attributes of the TT01. I had to re-read it myself to pick up on that. Although, the guy does have enough pull to get the SRAM stuff.

I can't wait to see the finished product.

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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [alexbel] [ In reply to ]
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I road last night with a guy on a BMC - he was bragging about the cost (over $20k)....total wheel sucking poser! LOL

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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [alexbel] [ In reply to ]
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This guy gets the (arguably) fastest frameset, the lightest, most aero components, ceramic bearing Zipp super-wheels, and then puts TUFOS on it! And gets into the semantics of why the TUFO valve extender is the bee's knees. Study after study puts TUFOS at the bottom of the rolling resistance (under even Continentals). He's giving minutes back just by going with Tufos.
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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BMC TT03 is the way to go....<$2K built up with 105, and will hold its own with any TT01.
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [cyclistmac] [ In reply to ]
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This guy gets the (arguably) fastest frameset, the lightest, most aero components, ceramic bearing Zipp super-wheels, and then puts TUFOS on it! And gets into the semantics of why the TUFO valve extender is the bee's knees. Study after study puts TUFOS at the bottom of the rolling resistance (under even Continentals). He's giving minutes back just by going with Tufos.

Merely proof that you can't buy common sense :-)

http://bikeblather.blogspot.com/
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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you can't buy common sense :-)
common sense?

he goes on about how he is going to stuff em full of sealant too!

bwahahahahahahaha


how do you tell a guy the 10k he spent to save 5-20w in drag he pissed away on tires he "liked"?

you don't - you just smile as you pass him :D

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greg
www.wattagetraining.com
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [cyclistmac] [ In reply to ]
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whilst tufo tubs may not be fast, their valve extenders are absolutely the bee's knees as it were. These extenders are the same design as the Conti and Campagnolo valve extenders and they work much better than the Zipp type extenders.
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [gregclimbs] [ In reply to ]
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LOL!!

Steve is a gung ho cyclist for sure, hard charger all the way. All good stuff..but the tyres.

Kurt

http://www.pbmcoaching.com
USA Triathlon Level 3 Elite Coach
USA Cycling Level 1 Elite Coach

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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [trukweaz] [ In reply to ]
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You guys can say what you want about the Tufo's..Even with them according to the UCSF website he is currently ranked the number 1 time trialist age 35 to 39 in the Country..so I gues they can't be that bad!
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [alexbel] [ In reply to ]
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not doubting his fitness...

but he could go even faster.

Kurt

http://www.pbmcoaching.com
USA Triathlon Level 3 Elite Coach
USA Cycling Level 1 Elite Coach

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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [alexbel] [ In reply to ]
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[reply]You guys can say what you want about the Tufo's....so I gues they can't be that bad![/reply]

I have said this before here (and I think on the same topic!)...

Some are fast (or pro or win etc) BECAUSE of their training and equipment choices, some are fast DESPITE those choices...

:)

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greg
www.wattagetraining.com
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [alexbel] [ In reply to ]
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Morning. Hi. its steve. that bmc is mine. i wanted to just jump in and say first, yo!!! morning and hello....2, i post and continue to add to that thread because probably like EVERY person on this board, i LOVE LOVE LOVE bike equipment, cutting edge stuff, love chasing speed, etc.
granted its an expensive bike, like silly expensive...and i totally agree that there are TONS of riders with bikes 1/10th as good who can outpace me..(though as alex said, i hold my own with a state championship and apretty good national ranking right now), butl thats not the point...
the point i think , is to have fun. and i think we'd all agree, that that frame is pretty darn wild...fast? i hope so. expensive? i know so.

i just know if one of my buddies bot one, i would KILL for every possible photo possible. learn stuff , maybe. see stuff, for sure....
i just thought it would be interesting.

fyi. i'll just respond to the comments on Tufo. I dont think tufo's are the best thing around. but they are very good tires. i run the Tufo Jets and i've used many other good tires. one reason i really like them is the butyl inner tubes and sealant. in several important races, i ate glass, was able to finish, and later thanked the sealant for that while i threw away the tire yet had a finishing time. it might be costing me 5 seconds over a 40k TT (or maybe not...remember, your discussion here is all based on feel and belief, unless you have specific scientific fact), and while i can dig that., i'd rather give up 5 seconds than flat out and have nor esult at all.

I've done well on a slew of bikes, had a blast on a slew of bikes. this is just lets call it an adventure in hvaing some extreme fun for a 38year old guy that likes screaming along quickly. fyi, my prior bike, my P3c, i think dollar for dollar eats this thing up all day and then on sunday. but again, its not about that. its about the BMC TT01 and seeing if its worth the cake it costs.

hope you guys did well at St. Petersburg. a few buddies of mine did that and had a good time, good result. icant run. i waddle.

anyway, if anyone has any questions about the
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [spgtwice] [ In reply to ]
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In what way did you find your P3c superior to your new rig just out of interest ?
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [UK Gear Muncher] [ In reply to ]
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let me restate, i wouldnt say superior. i would say that a) i LOVE LOVE LOVE my P3C which has won me MANY Tts and a state Championship. I would say that dollar for dollar, this BMC can not beat a p3c. sure, if you're treating yourslf one time in life, speed wise, i think the bmc might outpace. but those 20 seconds cost fra more than i think they are worth particularly if you arent sponsored or funded by anyone but yourself.

for the dollar, i think the p3c is one of the nicest, most crafted bikes around.
for any dollar, so far, this BMC looks like it has insane engineering.

i'm going to post a bunch of photos in another hour or so from the build last night.
bike porn like u have never seen, oratleast I have never seen.
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [alexbel] [ In reply to ]
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You guys can say what you want about the Tufo's..Even with them according to the UCSF website he is currently ranked the number 1 time trialist age 35 to 39 in the Country..so I gues they can't be that bad!

The USCF rankings are essentially meaningless, as not enough race results get submitted for them to be considered a reasonable sample.
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [spgtwice] [ In reply to ]
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i'll just respond to the comments on Tufo. I dont think tufo's are the best thing around. but they are very good tires. i run the Tufo Jets and i've used many other good tires. one reason i really like them is the butyl inner tubes and sealant. in several important races, i ate glass, was able to finish, and later thanked the sealant for that while i threw away the tire yet had a finishing time. it might be costing me 5 seconds over a 40k TT (or maybe not...remember, your discussion here is all based on feel and belief, unless you have specific scientific fact),
Many people do, and those Tufo's are costing you a lot more than 5 s.
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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ANdy, thx for the post. simply stated, at 170 lbs, for a Zipp 999 set, what tires do you suggest for Time Trialing, figure anything from 12 to 40 K.?
what tires do you believe offer the best or least rolling resistance numbers?
i'm here to learn as well. would give them a shot.

also, how does one measure rolling resistance and get the scientific data behind the conclusion?
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [spgtwice] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Steve - we go over this quite frequently. Here's a good read:

http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-1503651.html
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [spgtwice] [ In reply to ]
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ANdy, thx for the post. simply stated, at 170 lbs, for a Zipp 999 set, what tires do you suggest for Time Trialing, figure anything from 12 to 40 K.?
what tires do you believe offer the best or least rolling resistance numbers?
i'm here to learn as well. would give them a shot.

You're talking tubulars, right? If so, I'd suggest Veloflex Records, at least for "clean" courses.

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also, how does one measure rolling resistance and get the scientific data behind the conclusion?

Generally speaking, the most convenient and most accurate approach is to press the tire against a spinning drum, and measure the power required to keep it spinning/the force tending to slow the system down. If you've got a pwoermeter, though, you can also obtain estimates of rolling resistance via field tests.

As for data, it's all over the web...
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [spgtwice] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for posting the build. Can't wait to see the final project. I find it humerous how some of the pricks on ST are so narrow minded and cannot enjoy the beauty of such a project.

http://www.speedtheory.ca
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [footwerx] [ In reply to ]
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whilst tufo tubs may not be fast, their valve extenders are absolutely the bee's knees as it were. These extenders are the same design as the Conti and Campagnolo valve extenders and they work much better than the Zipp type extenders.

While the Tufo extenders are possibly better than the simple tube type Zipp extenders, once you close the valve, you've still added another possible leak location where the extender threads into the original valve body.

For that reason, I prefer these:
http://www.biketiresdirect.com/...ctdetail.asp?p=QUPVE

They cost more, but the original valve is left in place and the rod in the center reaches down and "grabs" the nut. This means you can lock the valve closed BEFORE the extension joint. Plus, you can use them on tubes (or tubular tires) that don't have a removable core.

Just my preference....

Oh yeah...he's losing a LOT more than 5s over 40K running those tires...but shhh, that's OK, I don't mind ;-)

http://bikeblather.blogspot.com/
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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i've never had a leakage problem as long as i used the plumber's tape. But that looks like a good product though. And to be fair, the tufo extenders are ~35% cheaper at least.
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Re: The Making of a BMC TT01 / Time Trial Machine [spgtwice] [ In reply to ]
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if you're concerned about puncture resistance. Give the Veloflex Carbon a try. It's marginally slower than the Veloflex Record but has better puncture protection.
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