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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [styrrell] [ In reply to ]
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styrrell wrote:
Do you have a link? I'm curious if the bike itself was approved prior to the race.
Some discussion here:
http://www.fixedgearfever.com/...;highlight=arm+angle
And Spain DQ'd here though I can't see an official reason - I heard it was arm angle on the commentary at the event I believe.
http://www.tissottiming.com/...alifying_Results.pdf
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [damon_rinard] [ In reply to ]
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Phil wants to write an introduction.

Loool, was this intended as humor?
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [specialist] [ In reply to ]
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The bad thing about the track DQ is that the riders arms aren't anymore "unlevel" than DZs.

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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [el condor] [ In reply to ]
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His arms are approximately parallel when he grabs the extensions normally, those things don't rotate at all on the new Cervelo bars. However, when he stacks both hands on top of the extensions in the center, he gets several more inches of rise to close off his chest cavity.

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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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on a related, but side question...... has there been any work done with full leg covering? is it legal? seems they are covering the arms and hands entirely in an attempt at 'smoothing' the air (or something) why not legs?

i'm sure there might be a heat issue, but that could likely be worked out...

Just a thought.

tim


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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [TimAndrus] [ In reply to ]
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illegal
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [TimAndrus] [ In reply to ]
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I'd say its much more difficult to make a tight fitting, mobile suit for the lower extremities. For the arms, you don't have to worry about motion very much, while the same is obviously not true for the legs.
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [jeffp] [ In reply to ]
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well that solves that issue........

what DO the rules state? something likely about the knee i'm guessing?

Tim


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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [TimAndrus] [ In reply to ]
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you cant have things covering your lower leg beyond mid calf or something.

who knows? always changing

you want more mario bodysuits? :)
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [damon_rinard] [ In reply to ]
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damon_rinard wrote:
Phil wants to write an introduction.

Why is Phil wasting time writing an intro? Jackmott can probably write a better intro than Phil and he'd do it for free....well, just ship him a P5.

When are you putting 80mm drop and taller head tubes on your other bikes ? It seems like you guys can now take innovations from the high end and move them into the rest of the line up like Shimano does with Dura-ace then Ultegra then 105....the fat part of the market is in the p2-p3 price point and there is an opportunity to help the mass market fit better on their bikes with better aerodynamics vs having a massive stack of spacers for guys with bad flexibility or short torsos!
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Zabriske should write the introduction

devashish_paul wrote:
damon_rinard wrote:
Phil wants to write an introduction.

Why is Phil wasting time writing an intro? Jackmott can probably write a better intro than Phil and he'd do it for free....well, just ship him a P5.

When are you putting 80mm drop and taller head tubes on your other bikes ? It seems like you guys can now take innovations from the high end and move them into the rest of the line up like Shimano does with Dura-ace then Ultegra then 105....the fat part of the market is in the p2-p3 price point and there is an opportunity to help the mass market fit better on their bikes with better aerodynamics vs having a massive stack of spacers for guys with bad flexibility or short torsos!



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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Dan, have you ever written up anything about long femur, short tib/fib versus short femur with long fib/tib? Dave Z seems to have a shorter tib/fib, which seems to help him get low when looking at the pic from the side (his knee doesnt hit squarely into his own chest at the top of the stroke.)

I have relatively long tib/fib bones, would that mean I should get with the trends and get a shorter crank?
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:

Why is Phil wasting time writing an intro? Jackmott can probably write a better intro than Phil and he'd do it for free....well, just ship him a P5.

Not that I'm an expert, but I'll help if it gets me my P5l. Cool

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When are you putting 80mm drop and taller head tubes on your other bikes ? It seems like you guys can now take innovations from the high end and move them into the rest of the line up like Shimano does with Dura-ace then Ultegra then 105...

The P2 is already about the same stack as the P5. And is the P3 even going to be around much longer?

And one issue is that although the aduro bar offers a huge range of adjustment (thus allowing a tall head tube on the P5 without restricting aggressive positions), adjusting the height requires cutting the steerer tube. This does not seem like a good design choice for an entry level bike, so I'd say they need to either a) leave the P2 and P3 like they are, or b) come up with a modified Aduro that has at least some height adjustability.
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [matto] [ In reply to ]
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I think entry level bikes should just use standard tri bars from any vendor and standard stems and generally slightly tall head tubes only because when we see these entry level bikes on newish athletes, they have a lot of spacers and upturned stems. Nothing wrong with that. So may as well make them to support that style of riding. I think these bikes would not be targeted at the type of people posting on here!
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [hansonator69] [ In reply to ]
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It looks like a rebadged LG. Some of the Garmin guys helmets had short solid more pointed tails than his, all looked like they had visors but none looked like the Advantage though I did see one blue Selector. Are these all custom Giro helmets?
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [Bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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Bmanners wrote:
His helmet is frickin awesome too , gotta love a Capt. America shield on top of a Canadian bike :0).


Funny story behind that....I was picking up my TT3 from my helmet painter last week and we got to talking about how he's painting more and more cycling helmets..(he did both of Crowies and is doing Julie Dibens right now)....and he says, "yeah, I just did a goofy one...the guy wanted a big Captain America theme one.....I guess the guy is like a comic book nut or something"

LOL

Of course, he has no idea who DZ is as he doesn't follow cycling. Same with Crowie...he refers to him as "some badass triathlete, I guess" hahaha


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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [styrrell] [ In reply to ]
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styrrell wrote:
I'm still gonna guess that Mavic didn't put nearly as much effort into the shape as Zipp does.

Why do you guess that? I'm not a huge Mavic fan, but they are giant company compared to Zipp, and have produced many many innovative products over the years. Some big hits and some big misses.


Not just my opinion, I will loosely quote a high-ranking Mavic person from the last year or two (source unknown):

"Mavic puts above all important on weight, then considers factors such as rolling resistance and aerodynamics"

Now, I'm sure Vaughters slapped some sense into them, but Zipp, Hed etc has put aerodynamics #1 for the past 15 ish years, sounds like Mavic is just now getting their act together.

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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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DZ is such a beast. I read an article a few years back when he goes into detail about how he gets himself to go deep into the pain cave. I'm pretty sure he has a better ability to hurt himself than most racers.
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [Fastyellow] [ In reply to ]
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Fastyellow wrote:
....I was picking up my TT3 from my helmet painter last week
Is a CPSC-approved TT3 available now? Or did you pick up a team-issued one?
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [styrrell] [ In reply to ]
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Did they ever have this patent? Or did HED have the patent and license it to Zipp?
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [AwesomePossum] [ In reply to ]
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AwesomePossum wrote:
Fastyellow wrote:
....I was picking up my TT3 from my helmet painter last week
Is a CPSC-approved TT3 available now? Or did you pick up a team-issued one?

I got an old HTC Team one and had it repainted....and yes, it is technically illegal. ;)




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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [Physiojoe925] [ In reply to ]
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styrrell wrote:
I'm still gonna guess that Mavic didn't put nearly as much effort into the shape as Zipp does.

Why do you guess that? I'm not a huge Mavic fan, but they are giant company compared to Zipp, and have produced many many innovative products over the years. Some big hits and some big misses.



Not just my opinion, I will loosely quote a high-ranking Mavic person from the last year or two (source unknown):

"Mavic puts above all important on weight, then considers factors such as rolling resistance and aerodynamics"

Now, I'm sure Vaughters slapped some sense into them, but Zipp, Hed etc has put aerodynamics #1 for the past 15 ish years, sounds like Mavic is just now getting their act together.

-Physiojoe


How positive are we that it's not in fact a Zipp w/ Mavic decals on it? I know pro cyclists do that sort of stuff all the time to run what they think is fastest while still trying to please sponsors.

Without a better close-up pic, the first one from the front looks more like a legit Mavic, but that second side shot makes it look like an alu brake track (Mavic) at a glance except the pads appear to line up below that so I'm thinking the silvery strip is actually the tire sidewall and it's an all-carbon rim (Zipp?); otherwise if that's really the rim itself then the height of the tire sidewall looks too short.
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]
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Zipp has a hole thru and thru for the valve - that wheel is solid (or the best cover I have ever seen). Mavic uses a vastly different MFG process than Zipp uses (to produce a better wheel IMO). If I had to guess that is the new Proto type wheel that (again IMO) Mavic will set on shelves with Ghibili's and some of the other very costly disk options that we will opt to puchase Zipp wheels over (lighter weight, lighter price).




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Re: Zabriskie "dominates" on the P5 (pic) [Fastyellow] [ In reply to ]
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Fastyellow wrote:
AwesomePossum wrote:
Fastyellow wrote:
....I was picking up my TT3 from my helmet painter last week
Is a CPSC-approved TT3 available now? Or did you pick up a team-issued one?


I got an old HTC Team one and had it repainted....and yes, it is technically illegal. ;)
Looks great... and nothing a sticker misplaced from another helmet can't fix. ;)
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