CeeGee90 wrote:
I think this is somewhat dependent on your power and average terrain. I spend a lot of time between 175 and 250W on mixed terrain (roughly 500-1,000 ft per 10 miles of elevation gain). I run 52x36, 11-30 Shimano Ultegra on my road bike. Due to fears of dropping the chain, which only happens going from big ring to small ring, I've grown accustomed to staying in the big ring all the way to 28 (2nd largest cog) and then shifting down to small ring and up on the casette, giving myself effectively 3 climbing gears. I tend to shift in the big ring when I know I will stay there (as another poster already mentioned), so as to minimize the back and forth and risk of dropping the chain.
Obviously dropping your chain with Di2 is far less likely, so I think you just do what feels most natural. I find it annoying how often I have to shift in the small ring when accelerating, so I get into the big ring pretty quickly. As a result, I tend to avoid the 7 smallest cogs when in the small ring.
You know, I think the only times I've dropped a chain on a front shift (also mechanical Ultegra, R8000 generation) was when I was shifting under load. I know current generation Shimano front shifting is excellent, but you can still drop a chain if you shift under load. So, if possible, I'll unweight the pedals a bit - I think we used to do this all the time earlier on, even in the 2000s, but I guess front shifting in general has improved quite a bit.
Aside from that, I basically use the same rubric as you for the most part. I can tell when I'm in my 3rd biggest cog, as the chain is just a bit noisier. So, I know that if I want to downshift, I probably want to shift in front, then one cog smaller in the back.
I do sometimes make a tactical decision to stay in the big ring and use the biggest 2 cogs if I know it will only be for a short stretch and I want to not bother disrupting my rhythm to make a front shift - even if I don't unweight the pedals, it is still a minor disruption to my rhythm.