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Re: What happened to racing flats??? [swimfan]
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WTF?
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [swimfan]
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I'd love to see how these look after many miles of heal drag
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Re: What happened to racing flats??? [g_lev]
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It's for downhill trail running. Let's not get crazy here.
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Re: What happened to racing flats??? [swimfan]
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Last week I talked about the running shoe industry going bananas. This is what it looks like. That said if this shoe actually delivers on it’s claim you will buy it. Most trail runners don’t necessarily float down hill. If this helps you float and saves your quads maybe it’s worth the $250.
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Dave Jewell
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Re: What happened to racing flats??? [rrheisler]
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rrheisler wrote:
It's for downhill trail running. Let's not get crazy here.Oh they got crazy.
https://www.strava.com/...tes/zachary_mckinney
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [SDJ]
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Exactly.
There's gonna be some super niche-y stuff on the horizon. If it serves the purpose, buy it. If it doesn't, don't.
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There's gonna be some super niche-y stuff on the horizon. If it serves the purpose, buy it. If it doesn't, don't.
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Re: What happened to racing flats??? [rrheisler]
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rrheisler wrote:
Exactly. There's gonna be some super niche-y stuff on the horizon. If it serves the purpose, buy it. If it doesn't, don't.
^ This.
This is the upshot of the whole Vaporfly/Alphafly debacle. Shoe manufacturers are FINALLY being forced to innovate again, rather than just changing colors year after year. The running community at large, despite all its pissing and moaning over "cheater shoes" will be much better for all the innovation. Some of it will work and will be widely adopted (and copied) and some won't. That's what innovation should look like.
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [swimfan]
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"Using this product for anything other than running may impair balance and dexterity. It is recommended that you don't wear these on stairs or while driving."
Alrighty then. What if the race has stairs? What if I have to drive to the race? You can't expect me to change shoes.
Alrighty then. What if the race has stairs? What if I have to drive to the race? You can't expect me to change shoes.
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [BlackStumpGumby]
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Call me crazy but where do you have a only downhill race? They have to run uphill too. Oh maybe they will change shoes in between :)
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [swimfan]
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Why would they have to run uphill? Do skiers have to ski uphill, too? :P
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [el gato]
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el gato wrote:
The running community at large, despite all its pissing and moaning over "cheater shoes" will be much better for all the innovation. Some of it will work and will be widely adopted (and copied) and some won't. That's what innovation should look like.Agreed - they are making shoes easier on the joints as well enabling people to run more. It’s a good time in the industry.
https://www.strava.com/...tes/zachary_mckinney
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [swimfan]
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swimfan wrote:
Call me crazy but where do you have a only downhill race? They have to run uphill too. Oh maybe they will change shoes in between :)https://www.utahvalleymarathon.com/
entire marathon is downhill.
80/20 Endurance Ambassador
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [SDJ]
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A first brief review :
https://www.runnersworld.com/...e-trail-shoe-review/
"virtually impossible to turn an ankle"
"massive cushion for downhill"
and apparantly, they work quite well uphill, despite bulk and weight
I do not run on trail a lot, but regularly going south-west of France and pyrenees, and have several favorite trails including 20 or 30% (or more) downhill, generally destroying my quads for a few days.
250$ is expensive, but if it can save my quads (and my ankles), why not. Let's see what come from other reviews.
Maybe also the concept of the "extended heel" will be included in a more "normal" trail shoe, with a more normal price.
https://www.runnersworld.com/...e-trail-shoe-review/
"virtually impossible to turn an ankle"
"massive cushion for downhill"
and apparantly, they work quite well uphill, despite bulk and weight
I do not run on trail a lot, but regularly going south-west of France and pyrenees, and have several favorite trails including 20 or 30% (or more) downhill, generally destroying my quads for a few days.
250$ is expensive, but if it can save my quads (and my ankles), why not. Let's see what come from other reviews.
Maybe also the concept of the "extended heel" will be included in a more "normal" trail shoe, with a more normal price.
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [Pyrenean Wolf]
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I thought these were for heel-strikers.
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [damon.lebeouf]
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damon.lebeouf wrote:
swimfan wrote:
Call me crazy but where do you have a only downhill race? They have to run uphill too. Oh maybe they will change shoes in between :)https://www.utahvalleymarathon.com/
entire marathon is downhill.
Yeah that one is 1,653 ft decline. Some are really significant. Mt. Hood is 4,758 ft.... https://www.runrevel.com/rmh
https://www.strava.com/...tes/zachary_mckinney
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Re: What happened to racing flats??? [mattr]
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mattr wrote:
I thought these were for heel-strikers.
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [plant_based]
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Or be first to use them at cheese rolling and clean up. You don't do that in the US?
https://www.soglos.com/...shire-Cheese-Rolling
https://www.soglos.com/...shire-Cheese-Rolling
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [swimfan]
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If the cycling industry can market gravel specific clothing, shoes, etc. surely some one in the running industry can market clouds that you can strap on your feet for running downhill.
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [Pyrenean Wolf]
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Pyrenean Wolf wrote:
A first brief review : https://www.runnersworld.com/...e-trail-shoe-review/
"virtually impossible to turn an ankle"
"massive cushion for downhill"
and apparantly, they work quite well uphill, despite bulk and weight
I do not run on trail a lot, but regularly going south-west of France and pyrenees, and have several favorite trails including 20 or 30% (or more) downhill, generally destroying my quads for a few days.
250$ is expensive, but if it can save my quads (and my ankles), why not. Let's see what come from other reviews.
Maybe also the concept of the "extended heel" will be included in a more "normal" trail shoe, with a more normal price.
That's a totally wacko shoe look, but if it really is 'virtually impossible to turn an ankle", I'd buy those for sure given that I've torn all my ankle ligaments and have to wear hard braces to prevent ankle turns just in case!
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [swimfan]
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Colorado!
https://www.gtishalf.com/the-course
Georgetown to Idaho Springs, -1000ft
http://comarathon.com/raceinfo
Full drops about 1000, half drops about 400ft.
https://www.runrevel.com/rdv
Revel full drops almost 5000 ft.
See your bike fit. https://bikefitr.appspot.com/
https://www.gtishalf.com/the-course
Georgetown to Idaho Springs, -1000ft
http://comarathon.com/raceinfo
Full drops about 1000, half drops about 400ft.
https://www.runrevel.com/rdv
Revel full drops almost 5000 ft.
See your bike fit. https://bikefitr.appspot.com/
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [swimfan]
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No one has mentioned that the shoe looks like it had butt implants.
Re: What happened to racing flats??? [lightheir]
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2 other initial tests :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7xPdNPUZY
and RTR :
https://www.roadtrailrun.com/...ine-time-to-fly.html
Seems like :
when you midfoot strike, you don't feel the big heel, the shoe behave like a normal shoe
when you heel strike (flat section or downhill) it help soften the shocks
The RTR guys says they like it to run on the road (not only trails) especially if hilly.
So clearly not a performance shoe, but could help with big volume endurance training also on the road. Interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7xPdNPUZY
and RTR :
https://www.roadtrailrun.com/...ine-time-to-fly.html
Seems like :
when you midfoot strike, you don't feel the big heel, the shoe behave like a normal shoe
when you heel strike (flat section or downhill) it help soften the shocks
The RTR guys says they like it to run on the road (not only trails) especially if hilly.
So clearly not a performance shoe, but could help with big volume endurance training also on the road. Interesting.
Seriously, is that a joke?