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I want to try 1x on my tri bike. I realize that I say in my large chainring 95% of the time and that was before I changed my cassette from 12-29 (Campy 11) to 11-30 (Shimano 12).

But, I train with power (and have done for years) and I do ride Absolute Black oval chain rings. On top of that, I have a DUB bottom bracket installed (and I'd like to keep that if at all possible, although not 100% necessary)

What are my options?

"Suddenly the thought struck me. My floor is someone elses ceiling"-Nils Ferlin
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [audiojan] [ In reply to ]
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Pedal based ?

Rear hub based?
Last edited by: MrTri123: Jan 6, 24 8:00
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [MrTri123] [ In reply to ]
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Would prefer to stay with crank based. I have quarq on all my bikes (road, tri, gravel).

"Suddenly the thought struck me. My floor is someone elses ceiling"-Nils Ferlin
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [audiojan] [ In reply to ]
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Having both Quarq and Favero Assioma, the Assioma are my favorite power meters so yes, pedal based is good.

But Absolute Black has marketing pictures of their Oval rings on Dura Ace Power meters, and it looks like their 1x direct mount rings would fit on a SRAM 1x Red power meter crank (which is quarq)
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [audiojan] [ In reply to ]
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audiojan wrote:
I want to try 1x on my tri bike. I realize that I say in my large chainring 95% of the time and that was before I changed my cassette from 12-29 (Campy 11) to 11-30 (Shimano 12).

But, I train with power (and have done for years) and I do ride Absolute Black oval chain rings. On top of that, I have a DUB bottom bracket installed (and I'd like to keep that if at all possible, although not 100% necessary)

What are my options?

https://www.garbaruk.com/...-road-cx-gravel.html
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [audiojan] [ In reply to ]
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Oval chain rings don’t work correctly with many crank-based power meters because they assume a constant angular velocity. Whether any of the pedal-based PMs work correctly would require some more digging. The Rotor PM does account for the changing foot speed with an oval chainring.

The error in estimated power might not be a big deal. As long as you do all your serious training and testing on the TT/Tri bike, it doesn’t really matter that your power is 10 watts too high or low. It is all relative.
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [Mudge] [ In reply to ]
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Going to try a Garbaruk oval ring. If it works, perfect, if it doesn't, I didn't spend a fortune on it. :-)

"Suddenly the thought struck me. My floor is someone elses ceiling"-Nils Ferlin
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [grumpier.mike] [ In reply to ]
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grumpier.mike wrote:
Oval chain rings don’t work correctly with many crank-based power meters because they assume a constant angular velocity. Whether any of the pedal-based PMs work correctly would require some more digging. The Rotor PM does account for the changing foot speed with an oval chainring.

The error in estimated power might not be a big deal. As long as you do all your serious training and testing on the TT/Tri bike, it doesn’t really matter that your power is 10 watts too high or low. It is all relative.

I get that, but since all my bikes has the same type of power meter (quarq, just different models changed over the years) and all of them has oval chain rings, the errors will be consistent. I honestly don't care if it shows 200W and is actually 220W (or 180W) as long as the errors are consistent.

"Suddenly the thought struck me. My floor is someone elses ceiling"-Nils Ferlin
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [audiojan] [ In reply to ]
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Which Quarq do you want to use? Wolf tooth and Rotor both make 1x chainrings compatible with shimano 12s.
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [audiojan] [ In reply to ]
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audiojan wrote:
grumpier.mike wrote:
Oval chain rings don’t work correctly with many crank-based power meters because they assume a constant angular velocity. Whether any of the pedal-based PMs work correctly would require some more digging. The Rotor PM does account for the changing foot speed with an oval chainring.

The error in estimated power might not be a big deal. As long as you do all your serious training and testing on the TT/Tri bike, it doesn’t really matter that your power is 10 watts too high or low. It is all relative.


I get that, but since all my bikes has the same type of power meter (quarq, just different models changed over the years) and all of them has oval chain rings, the errors will be consistent. I honestly don't care if it shows 200W and is actually 220W (or 180W) as long as the errors are consistent.

how do you know the errors are consistent?
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Re: Want to try 1x, but need power and oval... [grumpier.mike] [ In reply to ]
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grumpier.mike wrote:
Oval chain rings don’t work correctly with many crank-based power meters because they assume a constant angular velocity. Whether any of the pedal-based PMs work correctly would require some more digging. The Rotor PM does account for the changing foot speed with an oval chainring.

The error in estimated power might not be a big deal. As long as you do all your serious training and testing on the TT/Tri bike, it doesn’t really matter that your power is 10 watts too high or low. It is all relative.

I got the impression that the OP is running oval rings on a crank based PM now and is just looking to run 1x. If he goes 1x, his setup shouldn't be any less accurate than it is at the moment.
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