I'm also curious to hear your opinion of the Pro One. Some people swear by them and others complain about sidewall cuts. If you look at the Flo data, the tire performed sneaky-well from an aero perspective.

IIRC you run a Hed Jet Black 9 front and the new Aerocoach disc rear, correct? Are you training on these tires and then switching over to the CS for races or are the Pro Ones on different wheels?

Yes, sealant always used. I don't use "repair sealant" however. I figure that if sealant failed, dumping more in won't help. I will out in a few more ounces when I get home after a bacon plugging. But I rely on residual sealant while plugging on the road.

Yes, 23-25mm road tubeless.

One caveat is I'd be skeptical of plugging the Vittoria Corsa Speed. The tread and casing are so incredibly thin, not much there for the bacon to stick to. But I haven't tried it. I've plugged a variety of Schwalbe and Hutchinson road tubeless tires.

Tom A. wrote:

It should work fine.

The plug isn't held in place by "sticking" to the sidewalls of the hole

trail wrote:

It works OK. I've successfully plugged road tires with them. Just not as good, in my opinion, as Dynaplug.



The Dynaplug ones are, particularly long-term. They seem to almost "chemically bond" and melt into the tire, which gives me confidence in them as a longer-term fix I can just leave in a training tire. I don't know if it's an actual chemical bond. They just seem to be far more malleable and sticky. The GI ones just always seem like a little piece of string stuck in your tire. At least that's my perception.

No need for creating loops or fancy twists. Punch-and-pull. Done. Dynaplug is just a slick system. The milled tool is also really solid vs. the easily bent GI needle thing.

It's worth the extra $45 for me (though most of that is a one-time hit for the fancy milled tool pill). The GI system is fine too.

Edit: Yeah, the Dynaplug site desribes the plug as infused with "viscoelastic". That seems to be the actual word I was searching for. They do look like they melt into the tire with a rubber cement-like bond.

Edit edit: I see now you may have been referring to the CS specifically. I was making more general responses of GI vs. Dynaplug. I've never tried to plug a CS, so your GI experience on that specific tire is good information.

This is why it's just as effective IME to just use cotton butcher's cord as the plug. I save the "bacon strips" for situations (i.e. dampness) where the extra stickiness helps.

Pictures worth a thousand words; I have a much better understanding of what is being discussed. Question: How effective is the sealant at temperatures we are now experiencing in the Midwest? Will this stuff work below freezing and into single digits?

As a road cyclist I'll answer a narrow part of this question: bacon on training rides.

So I'm only talking about 23-25mm tires. And since I rely on neutral support while racing, I don't need to attempt flat changes while racing.

Side o' bacon has proven effective, and it's not my first go-to strategy on getting a training flat. Anecdotally, it works on about 2/3 of punctures that don't automatically seal. Just about everything but sidewall slashes. So you can get going again in about a minute. I like this for group rides because I don't like making everyone wait around for me. The key is making sure you don't break the bead. Because once you do, you're putting a tube in.

TomA has been on here pitching the low-cost Genuine Innovations kit. I tried it. It's "OK," but I vastly prefer the Dynplug Micro Pro "pill." The bacon is much better in a couple ways. It's thicker and stickier. I mean *really* sticky. Also it's bullet tipped, which is great for punching through the tire with authority, but more importantly, "anchoring" the plug. The biggest worry I had with Genuine Innovations plugs is the plug sliding out. The little miniature knife in the pill is great too. For me that $50 is worth making really quick, pretty darn reliable no-taking-the-wheel-off flat repairs for the rare times that sealant actually fails. The seal is good enough for that for training tires I usually don't attempt any further repair when I get home. I've had 3 plugs hold for the life of the tire. I've been confident enough in them to do 50MPH mountain descents on them.

For race tires I still patch internally, though, as that still has to be considered the gold standard for reliability.

Great info. When you say you patch internally in races, how do you do it?

Thanks.

It varies by the sealant...I know Orange Seal has a version that's intended for colder temps. You'll have to check the individual sealants.

In my experience no, sealent does not work as well in sub freezing temps. I have had both stans and orange seal freeze while in the tire. Never caused me an issue but there is no way it would have sealed a puncture. I saw it with both brands while breaking down setups to change tires for different fatbike conditions.

How cold?

I've noted that when other things have frozen in my garage, Orange Seal is still going strong.