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TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest
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Has anyone charted or made some sort of index as to which Sufferfest videos might be used in place of certain TrainerRoad workouts? Sort of a cross-reference to allow you to throw Sufferfest videos in while still adhering to the prescribed TR plan. For example (only example, don't think these actual match up) - Angels at 85% can be used in place of Mont Albert.
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [flynnzu] [ In reply to ]
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No but its a good idea.

I just had a week off the plan to throw in the Tour of Sufferlandria. Now I'm back on TR alone and I'm starting to miss all those clips.
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [flynnzu] [ In reply to ]
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I wrote a program to try to find the best Sufferfest video to use in place of each of the TrainerRoad workouts. For example, instead of Mont Albert, my program suggests The Wretched @ 82%.

Here is the full list:

02 - Short Interval ==> Nine Hammers @ 21%
03 - short high interval ==> Extra Shot @ 43%
125% Test ==> Revolver @ 91%
20 Minute Test ==> A Very Dark Place @ 99%
2014 8DC - Stage 1 ==> Local Hero @ 89%
2014 8DC - Stage 2 ==> Angels @ 88%
2014 8DC - Stage 3 ==> Blender @ 94%
2014 8DC - Stage 4 ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 97%
2014 8DC - Stage 5 ==> The Hunted @ 87%
2014 8DC - Stage 6 ==> Local Hero @ 101%
2014 8DC - Stage 7 ==> Local Hero @ 94%
2014 8DC - Stage 8 ==> Local Hero @ 98%
2x20 Minute Test ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 96%
3LC Climbing ==> The Wretched @ 90%
3LC Ladies Road Race ==> Fight Club @ 88%
3LC Road Race ==> Local Hero @ 82%
3LC Sprinting ==> Violator @ 92%
3LC Time Trial ==> A Very Dark Place @ 92%
8 Minute Test ==> The Downward Spiral @ 86%
8DC - Stage 1 - 2013 ==> Local Hero @ 93%
8DC - Stage 2 - 2013 ==> Angels @ 105%
8DC - Stage 3 - 2013 ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 100%
8DC - Stage 4 - 2013 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 86%
8DC - Stage 5 - 2013 ==> Angels @ 93%
8DC - Stage 6 - 2013 ==> Nine Hammers @ 92%
8DC - Stage 7 - 2013 ==> Local Hero @ 104%
8DC - Stage 8 - 2013 ==> The Hunted @ 89%
8x5 Min 85-90% FTP ==> Local Hero @ 82%
Abbot ==> Half is Easy @ 114%
Abott ==> Fight Club @ 102%
Acrodectes ==> The Downward Spiral @ 107%
Adams ==> Revolver @ 86%
Agassiz ==> The Downward Spiral @ 101%
Alice ==> Local Hero @ 96%
Andrews ==> Local Hero @ 76%
Andrews +1 ==> ISLAGIATT @ 76%
Angora ==> The Downward Spiral @ 99%
Aniakchak ==> ISLAGIATT @ 94%
Ansel Adams ==> The Downward Spiral @ 101%
Antelope ==> Local Hero @ 88%
Antelope +1 ==> Fight Club @ 106%
Antelope +2 ==> Local Hero @ 88%
Antelope +3 ==> Fight Club @ 106%
Antelope -1 ==> Blender @ 78%
Antelope -2 ==> Local Hero @ 87%
Antelope -3 ==> Blender @ 77%
Apple Orchard ==> Fight Club @ 78%
Apple Orchard +1 ==> Revolver @ 82%
Apple Orchard +2 ==> Half is Easy @ 86%
Apple Orchard +3 ==> Revolver @ 83%
Arrow ==> ISLAGIATT @ 77%
Augusta ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 110%
Avalanche Spire ==> Chrysalis Bike @ 109%
Backbone ==> The Downward Spiral @ 80%
Bago ==> Nine Hammers @ 128%
Baird ==> Half is Easy @ 98%
Baird Peak ==> ISLAGIATT @ 95%
Balcony ==> ISLAGIATT @ 96%
Bald Knob ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 65%
Banner ==> Half is Easy @ 86%
Barnard ==> The Downward Spiral @ 96%
Barren ==> Angels @ 102%
Bart's Hair ==> Local Hero @ 91%
Bashful ==> The Downward Spiral @ 88%
Basin ==> Nine Hammers @ 97%
Basin TC ==> Elements of Style @ 119%
Baxter ==> Blender @ 67%
Bays ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 82%
Bays +1 ==> ISLAGIATT @ 78%
Beacon ==> Local Hero @ 93%
Beacon -1 ==> Local Hero @ 92%
Beacon -2 ==> Fight Club @ 106%
Beacon -3 ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 98%
Bear ==> The Downward Spiral @ 105%
Bear +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 104%
Bear +2 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 106%
Bear +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 107%
Bear Creek ==> The Rookie @ 103%
Bear Creek TC ==> Extra Shot @ 109%
Beech ==> The Hunted @ 70%
Beehive ==> ISLAGIATT @ 78%
Big Mountain ==> ISLAGIATT @ 96%
Big Squaw ==> ISLAGIATT @ 87%
Billy Mitchell ==> ISLAGIATT @ 104%
Birch ==> The Wretched @ 68%
Bird ==> The Downward Spiral @ 91%
Black ==> The Hunted @ 71%
Black Giant ==> Blender @ 75%
Black Giant TC ==> Half is Easy @ 73%
Black Hawk ==> Angels 2015 @ 110%
Black Kaweah ==> The Downward Spiral @ 95%
Blackcap ==> Local Hero @ 82%
Blood ==> Angels @ 109%
Blue ==> Angels @ 98%
Boarstone ==> ISLAGIATT @ 78%
Bolton Brown ==> Violator @ 94%
Bondcliff ==> ISLAGIATT @ 84%
Bradley ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 94%
Bradley TC ==> Elements of Style @ 119%
Brasstown ==> Blender @ 69%
Brewer ==> The Downward Spiral @ 105%
Broken Finger ==> Local Hero @ 102%
Broken Finger +1 ==> Blender @ 103%
Broken Finger +2 ==> ISLAGIATT @ 106%
Buckhorn ==> ISLAGIATT @ 83%
Buffalo ==> ISLAGIATT @ 82%
Byers Peak ==> Blender @ 98%
CJN 10x3mins FTP ==> Chrysalis Bike @ 102%
CJN 15x2mins FTP ==> Local Hero @ 87%
CJN 1st session back ==> There is No Try @ 72%
CJN 2x(8-6-4-2-1) ==> Local Hero @ 87%
CJN 2x12mins @ TT effort ==> A Very Dark Place @ 97%
CJN 2x20mins FTP ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 98%
CJN 30mins FTP ==> Angels 2015 @ 98%
CJN 40mins FTP ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 96%
CJN 4x12mins FTP ==> ISLAGIATT @ 85%
CJN 4x6mins @ TT effort ==> A Very Dark Place @ 99%
CJN 6x5mins -3@90%ftp / 3@ftp ==> The Rookie @ 91%
CJN 7x5mins FTP ==> Local Hero @ 84%
CJN Peak Power 6x2:20 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 93%
CJN Peak Power 7x2:20 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 99%
CJN Ramp Test ==> Fight Club @ 85%
Cadillac ==> A Very Dark Place @ 77%
Caltech ==> Blender @ 98%
Cardigan ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 78%
Cardinal ==> The Rookie @ 94%
Carillon ==> Angels 2015 @ 91%
Carillon TC ==> The Long Scream @ 78%
Carpathian Peak ==> Chrysalis Bike @ 109%
Carrigain ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 80%
Carson ==> Angels 2015 @ 90%
Carson TC ==> Extra Shot @ 97%
Cartago ==> Violator @ 116%
Carter ==> The Wretched @ 68%
Cartwright ==> Angels 2015 @ 99%
Castle Peak ==> Local Hero @ 95%
Cathedral ==> ISLAGIATT @ 104%
Cedric Wright ==> Nine Hammers @ 88%
Centennial ==> Local Hero @ 93%
Chamberlin ==> Fight Club @ 94%
Chamberlin TC ==> Elements of Style @ 115%
Charlotte ==> ISLAGIATT @ 76%
Charybdis ==> The Downward Spiral @ 88%
Charybdis +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 99%
Charybdis +2 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 109%
Charybdis TC ==> Half is Easy @ 80%
Cheaha ==> ISLAGIATT @ 62%
Chocorua ==> ISLAGIATT @ 109%
Chocura ==> The Hunted @ 88%
Cirque ==> Violator @ 108%
Citadel ==> Nine Hammers @ 88%
Clarence King ==> Local Hero @ 102%
Clark ==> Blender @ 92%
Cleghorn ==> Angels @ 99%
Clingman's ==> The Hunted @ 87%
Cloudripper ==> ISLAGIATT @ 87%
Clouds Rest ==> The Downward Spiral @ 96%
Clyde ==> Revolver @ 41%
Cockscomb ==> Violator @ 92%
Collins ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 75%
Collins +1 ==> ISLAGIATT @ 68%
Colosseum ==> Local Hero @ 76%
Columbine ==> Local Hero @ 89%
Conness ==> ISLAGIATT @ 83%
Corcoran ==> Blender @ 96%
Corcoran +1 ==> Blender @ 104%
Corcoran +2 ==> Blender @ 111%
Cotter ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 110%
Coyote ==> Nine Hammers @ 95%
Crag ==> A Very Dark Place @ 98%
Crane ==> The Downward Spiral @ 77%
Crater ==> Local Hero @ 83%
CycleFilm Roads to Glory Vol 1 ==> Blender @ 75%
Cyclo-HIT30 Climb Ass Kicker! ==> The Long Scream @ 94%
Dade ==> The Downward Spiral @ 97%
Dana ==> Blender @ 91%
Dans ==> Half is Easy @ 40%
Dardanelles ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 99%
Darwin ==> Angels 2015 @ 99%
Darwin TC ==> The Long Scream @ 83%
Davis ==> Elements of Style @ 76%
Deerhorn ==> Angels 2015 @ 97%
Deerhorn TC ==> Elements of Style @ 107%
Devil's Crag ==> Local Hero @ 84%
Diamond ==> Angels 2015 @ 101%
Diamond +1 ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 101%
Diamond +2 ==> Local Hero @ 101%
Diamond TC ==> The Long Scream @ 87%
Diamond Valley Road Race ==> Nine Hammers @ 97%
Dicks ==> Angels 2015 @ 111%
Disaster ==> Violator @ 165%
Donner ==> Angels 2015 @ 96%
Dorr ==> The Downward Spiral @ 69%
Dragon ==> Blender @ 92%
Dunderberg ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 106%
Eagle ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 107%
Eagle Scout ==> Angels 2015 @ 99%
East Vidette ==> Blender @ 90%
Ebbetts ==> Chrysalis Bike @ 99%
Echo ==> Local Hero @ 81%
Eclipse ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 100%
Eddy McKenney ==> Violator @ 118%
Eichorn ==> The Hunted @ 86%
Eisen ==> Violator @ 101%
Eisenhower ==> Blender @ 83%
Electra ==> Local Hero @ 81%
Elephants ==> Revolver @ 106%
Elwell ==> There is No Try @ 106%
Emerald ==> The Downward Spiral @ 93%
Emerson ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 106%
English ==> The Downward Spiral @ 89%
Epic Acadia ==> Angels @ 90%
Epic Amelia Island ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 69%
Epic Aspen ==> Local Hero @ 94%
Epic Austin ==> Angels @ 94%
Epic Beartooth Pass ==> The Hunted @ 105%
Epic Blue Ridge ==> The Hunted @ 105%
Epic Colorado - Mt. Evans ==> Local Hero @ 106%
Epic Mt Baldy ==> ISLAGIATT @ 94%
Epic Red Wing ==> The Hunted @ 92%
Epic Rouge Roubaix ==> ISLAGIATT @ 95%
Epic San Diego ==> Local Hero @ 100%
Epic Texas Hill ==> Local Hero @ 92%
Epic Tucson - Mt Lemmon ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 104%
Epic Tucson - Saguaro East ==> The Wretched @ 96%
Epic Vermont ==> Elements of Style @ 127%
Epic Wine Country ==> Angels @ 98%
Ericsson ==> The Rookie @ 91%
Ericsson TC ==> Extra Shot @ 100%
Ethan Allen ==> ISLAGIATT @ 85%
Excelsior ==> Violator @ 116%
Fairweather ==> ISLAGIATT @ 95%
Fang Mountain ==> Chrysalis Bike @ 109%
Farquhar ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 98%
Feather ==> Local Hero @ 96%
Fin ==> The Rookie @ 93%
Fish ==> Blender @ 98%
Fish -1 ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 108%
Fiske ==> The Hunted @ 94%
Flattop ==> ISLAGIATT @ 94%
Fletcher ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 79%
Flume ==> Blender @ 85%
Foerster ==> The Downward Spiral @ 94%
Four Gables ==> ISLAGIATT @ 89%
Freel ==> Half is Easy @ 93%
Frissell ==> Local Hero @ 87%
Gabb ==> Blender @ 97%
Galena ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 101%
Gardiner ==> Violator @ 129%
Garfield ==> The Downward Spiral @ 78%
Gayley ==> Angels 2015 @ 96%
Geiger ==> Angels 2015 @ 90%
Geiger TC ==> Extra Shot @ 104%
Gemeni ==> Violator @ 91%
Gendarme ==> Revolver @ 99%
Gendarme TC ==> Half is Easy @ 74%
Genevra ==> Fight Club @ 91%
Genevra TC ==> The Long Scream @ 86%
Gibbs ==> ISLAGIATT @ 71%
Gibbs +1 ==> ISLAGIATT @ 81%
Gilbert ==> Angels 2015 @ 102%
Gilbert TC ==> The Long Scream @ 88%
Giraud ==> The Hunted @ 65%
Givens ==> The Downward Spiral @ 91%
Glacier ==> Violator @ 107%
Glassy ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 88%
Goat ==> Violator @ 93%
Goddard ==> There is No Try @ 84%
Goddard TC ==> Elements of Style @ 104%
Goethe ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 90%
Golgotha ==> ISLAGIATT @ 91%
Goodale ==> ISLAGIATT @ 87%
Goode ==> There is No Try @ 105%
Goode TC ==> Elements of Style @ 118%
Gould ==> There is No Try @ 98%
Gould +1 ==> Fight Club @ 107%
Gould +2 ==> Blender @ 94%
Gould +3 ==> Local Hero @ 103%
Gould -1 ==> Blender @ 86%
Grandfather ==> ISLAGIATT @ 94%
Granite ==> There is No Try @ 75%
Grassy Ridge ==> Fight Club @ 87%
Grassy Ridge +1 ==> Half is Easy @ 96%
Grassy Ridge +2 ==> Half is Easy @ 99%
Grassy Ridge +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 89%
Grassy Ridge -1 ==> Fight Club @ 84%
Grassy Ridge -2 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 80%
Grassy Ridge -3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 77%
Graveyard ==> Violator @ 117%
Gray ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 90%
Gros Morne ==> The Hunted @ 87%
Guard ==> The Downward Spiral @ 92%
Guard TC ==> Half is Easy @ 79%
Guyat ==> The Wretched @ 97%
H.A. & A.C. Power Profile Test ==> Blender @ 86%
Haeckel ==> Angels 2015 @ 96%
Haeckel TC ==> Revolver @ 67%
Hale ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 92%
Half Dome ==> Half is Easy @ 73%
Harrington ==> Violator @ 97%
Harris ==> Half is Easy @ 88%
Hatch ==> ISLAGIATT @ 77%
Hawk Mountain ==> ISLAGIATT @ 80%
Hawk's Bill ==> Revolver @ 97%
Hawk's Bill +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 92%
Hawk's Bill +2 ==> Blender @ 82%
Hawk's Bill +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 108%
Henry ==> The Downward Spiral @ 97%
Hermit ==> ISLAGIATT @ 80%
Hesperus ==> ISLAGIATT @ 90%
Highland ==> Violator @ 128%
Hilgard ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 94%
Hilltop ==> ISLAGIATT @ 90%
Hitchcock ==> The Hunted @ 77%
Hoffman ==> Violator @ 121%
Holt Hill ==> Local Hero @ 78%
Homers Nose ==> The Hunted @ 66%
Hooper ==> ISLAGIATT @ 96%
Hour Record ==> ISLAGIATT @ 89%
Huffaker ==> The Downward Spiral @ 85%
Huffaker TC ==> Half is Easy @ 73%
Hump Mountain ==> ISLAGIATT @ 86%
Humphreys ==> Half is Easy @ 67%
Hunger ==> The Downward Spiral @ 106%
Hunter ==> ISLAGIATT @ 88%
Huntington ==> ISLAGIATT @ 102%
Hurd ==> The Downward Spiral @ 91%
Huxley ==> Fight Club @ 103%
Huxley TC ==> Revolver @ 79%
Ian Campbell ==> Fight Club @ 100%
Icefall ==> ISLAGIATT @ 86%
Ickes ==> Revolver @ 79%
Indianhouse ==> ISLAGIATT @ 84%
Iron ==> Violator @ 105%
Irvine ==> Half is Easy @ 130%
Isolation ==> Blender @ 102%
Izaak Walton ==> ISLAGIATT @ 82%
Jacks ==> Angels 2015 @ 102%
Jacques Cartier ==> ISLAGIATT @ 105%
Jane Bald ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 78%
Jay Peak ==> ISLAGIATT @ 86%
Jefferson ==> The Downward Spiral @ 75%
Jepson ==> Angels 2015 @ 96%
Jepson TC ==> Revolver @ 68%
Jobs ==> The Rookie @ 98%
Joe Devel ==> The Downward Spiral @ 94%
Joe Devel TC ==> Half is Easy @ 82%
Johnson ==> Violator @ 104%
Jordan ==> Fight Club @ 77%
Julius Caesar ==> The Downward Spiral @ 83%
Junction ==> Blender @ 102%
Juneau ==> ISLAGIATT @ 96%
Kaiser ==> Revolver @ 101%
Kashagnak ==> ISLAGIATT @ 92%
Katahdin ==> Fight Club @ 88%
Katahdin +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 82%
Katahdin +2 ==> Half is Easy @ 97%
Katahdin +3 ==> Revolver @ 94%
Katahdin -1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 81%
Katahdin -2 ==> Fight Club @ 86%
Katahdin -3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 79%
Katmal ==> ISLAGIATT @ 94%
Kaweah ==> Local Hero @ 94%
Kaweah Queen ==> Angels 2015 @ 95%
Kearsarge ==> Violator @ 100%
Keeler Needle ==> Fight Club @ 91%
Keeler Needle TC ==> Elements of Style @ 110%
Keith ==> Blender @ 93%
Kennedy ==> Blender @ 80%
Kennedy Peak ==> ISLAGIATT @ 91%
Kephart ==> Revolver @ 96%
Kephart +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 90%
Kephart +2 ==> Blender @ 82%
Kephart +3 ==> Blender @ 89%
Kern ==> The Rookie @ 108%
Kettle ==> Violator @ 107%
Kid ==> There is No Try @ 91%
King Peak ==> ISLAGIATT @ 92%
Kingsbury ==> Angels @ 83%
Koip ==> ISLAGIATT @ 81%
LSCT Warmup ==> Elements of Style @ 69%
Lafaytte ==> Blender @ 82%
Lafaytte +1 ==> Fight Club @ 105%
Lafaytte +2 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 98%
Lafaytte +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 99%
Lamarck ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 90%
Langille ==> Local Hero @ 82%
Langley ==> Elements of Style @ 159%
Laurel ==> Half is Easy @ 63%
Lazy Mountain ==> Fight Club @ 51%
Leavitt ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 82%
Leconte ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 109%
Lincoln ==> Blender @ 96%
Lion Rock ==> Blender @ 88%
Logan ==> ISLAGIATT @ 104%
Lola ==> Angels 2015 @ 93%
Lolita ==> A Very Dark Place @ 82%
Lone Pine ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 108%
Looking Glass ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 88%
Lucania ==> ISLAGIATT @ 93%
Lyell ==> ISLAGIATT @ 97%
Maclure ==> ISLAGIATT @ 89%
Madison ==> Local Hero @ 82%
Mallory ==> Nine Hammers @ 125%
Mallory +1 ==> Blender @ 104%
Mallory +2 ==> Blender @ 112%
Mansfield ==> A Very Dark Place @ 93%
Marcus Baker ==> ISLAGIATT @ 112%
Marion ==> Angels 2015 @ 97%
Marion +1 ==> Angels 2015 @ 96%
Martin Hill ==> ISLAGIATT @ 96%
Mary Austin ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 109%
Matanuska ==> ISLAGIATT @ 88%
Matterhorn ==> Half is Easy @ 74%
Matthes ==> The Downward Spiral @ 91%
Maxwell ==> ISLAGIATT @ 104%
McAdie ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 104%
McDuffie ==> The Downward Spiral @ 102%
McDuffie TC ==> Revolver @ 83%
McGee ==> Blender @ 88%
McGinnis ==> ISLAGIATT @ 104%
McKinley ==> ISLAGIATT @ 106%
Megantic ==> The Downward Spiral @ 88%
Megantic +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 90%
Megantic +2 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 96%
Megantic +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 98%
Mendel ==> The Downward Spiral @ 92%
Merced ==> The Downward Spiral @ 97%
Merriam ==> There is No Try @ 95%
Meteorite ==> ISLAGIATT @ 97%
Midway ==> The Downward Spiral @ 98%
Mills ==> The Downward Spiral @ 87%
Mills +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 96%
Mills +2 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 104%
Mills TC ==> Half is Easy @ 76%
Mist ==> The Downward Spiral @ 102%
Mitchell ==> Nine Hammers @ 110%
Miter ==> Blender @ 93%
Mokelumne ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 71%
Monadnock ==> Half is Easy @ 95%
Monadnock +1 ==> Half is Easy @ 98%
Monadnock +2 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 91%
Monadnock +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 94%
Monitor ==> Angels 2015 @ 89%
Monitor +1 ==> Angels 2015 @ 93%
Monitor TC ==> Extra Shot @ 103%
Mono ==> Blender @ 77%
Monroe ==> The Downward Spiral @ 103%
Monroe +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 103%
Monroe -1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 108%
Mont Albert ==> Angels 2015 @ 77%
Mont Gosford ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 78%
Moose's Tooth ==> Blender @ 87%
Moosilaukee ==> The Hunted @ 88%
Morgan ==> Revolver @ 103%
Morgan TC ==> Half is Easy @ 80%
Morrison ==> Half is Easy @ 81%
Mount Alice ==> Violator @ 112%
Mount Alyeska ==> A Very Dark Place @ 97%
Mount Baldy ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 98%
Mount Bear ==> Violator @ 111%
Mount Blackburn ==> Violator @ 119%
Mount Bond ==> ISLAGIATT @ 101%
Mount Cook ==> ISLAGIATT @ 95%
Mount Deborah ==> The Downward Spiral @ 83%
Mount Drum ==> Violator @ 118%
Mount Field ==> The Hunted @ 81%
Mount Foraker ==> A Very Dark Place @ 99%
Mount Goode ==> Local Hero @ 94%
Mount Hayes ==> Local Hero @ 94%
Mount Hayes -1 ==> Local Hero @ 94%
Mount Hope ==> Local Hero @ 93%
Mount Major ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 82%
Mount Wood ==> There is No Try @ 88%
Mt Hale ==> The Downward Spiral @ 102%
Muah ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 81%
Muir ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 66%
Needham ==> The Hunted @ 102%
Nevada City Classic ==> Nine Hammers @ 110%
Nevada City Classic +1 ==> Blender @ 94%
Nevada City Classic +2 ==> Blender @ 103%
Newcomb ==> The Rookie @ 92%
Norman Clyde ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 109%
North Guard ==> Blender @ 91%
North Maggie ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 105%
North Pack ==> ISLAGIATT @ 92%
North Twin Mountain ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 81%
Obelisk ==> Fight Club @ 55%
Olancha ==> Half is Easy @ 125%
Olancha TC ==> Half is Easy @ 89%
Old Rag ==> Half is Easy @ 90%
Old Rag +1 ==> Half is Easy @ 93%
Old Rag +2 ==> Revolver @ 95%
Old Rag +3 ==> Revolver @ 98%
Osceola ==> Violator @ 65%
Owens ==> Revolver @ 102%
Palisade ==> Local Hero @ 96%
Palmer ==> Elements of Style @ 147%
Passadumkeag ==> Blender @ 81%
Peavine ==> There is No Try @ 78%
Pendleton ==> ISLAGIATT @ 118%
Penguin ==> The Rookie @ 76%
Pensacola Stage Race ==> The Hunted @ 88%
Perkins ==> ISLAGIATT @ 77%
Pettit ==> The Hunted @ 64%
Pettit +1 ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 70%
Phoenix ==> ISLAGIATT @ 78%
Pickering ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 89%
Picket Guard ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 110%
Pierce ==> The Downward Spiral @ 95%
Pilot ==> Violator @ 102%
Pinchot ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 89%
Pinnacle ==> ISLAGIATT @ 88%
Pioneer ==> The Hunted @ 81%
Pisgah ==> Half is Easy @ 92%
Pisgah +1 ==> Half is Easy @ 95%
Pisgah +2 ==> Revolver @ 97%
Pisgah +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 91%
Piute ==> Angels @ 89%
Polar Bear ==> ISLAGIATT @ 90%
Polemonium ==> Revolver @ 105%
Powell ==> Nine Hammers @ 128%
Powell -1 ==> Blender @ 94%
Powell -2 ==> Blender @ 95%
Powell -3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 108%
Power Test - 12s and 1 min ==> Violator @ 92%
Power Test - 30s, 2 min and 5 min ==> Violator @ 81%
Power Training Ridethrough ==> Nine Hammers @ 25%
Prater ==> Angels 2015 @ 100%
Prater TC ==> Revolver @ 69%
Primes & Bell Lap ==> Local Hero @ 83%
Princeton 70.3 Sim ==> ISLAGIATT @ 113%
Ptarmigan ==> ISLAGIATT @ 86%
Pyramidal ==> The Hunted @ 86%
Rafferty ==> Violator @ 110%
Ragged ==> Local Hero @ 83%
Ragged Spur ==> Local Hero @ 89%
Rainbow ==> ISLAGIATT @ 89%
Rambaud ==> ISLAGIATT @ 77%
Rattlesnake ==> Extra Shot @ 108%
Raymond ==> The Downward Spiral @ 83%
RealRides Climb ==> Local Hero @ 96%
RealRides Force ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 99%
RealRides Gran Fondo ==> Local Hero @ 98%
RealRides Power ==> The Downward Spiral @ 102%
RealRides Race Day ==> Fight Club @ 106%
RealRides Ride 101 ==> Blender @ 65%
RealRides Speed ==> The Downward Spiral @ 87%
RealRides Strength ==> Violator @ 64%
Recess 40 ==> Local Hero @ 36%
Recess 60 ==> Local Hero @ 45%
Red ==> The Downward Spiral @ 102%
Red Kaweah ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 105%
Red Lake ==> A Very Dark Place @ 100%
Red Slate ==> Fight Club @ 96%
Red Slate TC ==> The Long Scream @ 91%
Red and White ==> Violator @ 102%
Redoubt ==> ISLAGIATT @ 89%
Reinstein ==> Local Hero @ 90%
Relay ==> The Long Scream @ 108%
Reynolds ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 96%
Richardson ==> The Downward Spiral @ 90%
Richardson +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 92%
Richardson +2 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 99%
Richardson +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 100%
Ride Fit Bicicleta Perfecta ==> ISLAGIATT @ 96%
Ride Fit ElliptiGO World Championships ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 117%
Ride Fit Fiesta Island Fun ==> The Long Scream @ 82%
Ride Fit Hola Madrid ==> The Wretched @ 98%
Ride Fit Local Rollers ==> The Hunted @ 95%
Ride Fit Madrid Montage ==> Angels 2015 @ 100%
Ride Fit Master Blaster ==> Elements of Style @ 131%
Ride Fit Miramar Lake Loops ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 88%
Ride Fit Smokin Joe ==> The Wretched @ 103%
Ride Fit Three Times Up ==> The Hunted @ 98%
Ride Fit Warrior ==> Elements of Style @ 124%
Rides - Southern California ==> The Wretched @ 102%
Rides New York ==> Local Hero @ 90%
Ritter ==> Angels 2015 @ 100%
Ritter TC ==> The Long Scream @ 86%
Rixford ==> Nine Hammers @ 126%
Roan High ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 83%
Robinson ==> Violator @ 123%
Rockhouse ==> Violator @ 137%
Rodgers ==> Elements of Style @ 80%
Rogers ==> Chrysalis Bike @ 101%
Rolling Over Whistler, BC ==> Local Hero @ 94%
Rose ==> The Rookie @ 94%
Round Bald ==> ISLAGIATT @ 91%
Royce ==> Angels 2015 @ 99%
Rubicon ==> The Rookie @ 104%
Ruskin ==> The Rookie @ 95%
Russell ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 92%
Saint Elias ==> Blender @ 98%
San Joaquin ==> The Downward Spiral @ 97%
Sanford ==> The Downward Spiral @ 76%
Sassafras ==> Blender @ 97%
Scott Peak ==> Chrysalis Bike @ 77%
Scylla ==> Angels 2015 @ 97%
Scylla WIP ==> Angels 2015 @ 97%
Seneca Rocks ==> Local Hero @ 78%
Senger ==> Blender @ 92%
Seven Gables ==> The Downward Spiral @ 108%
Sharktooth ==> Fight Club @ 98%
Shining Rock ==> Half is Easy @ 98%
Shortoff ==> Half is Easy @ 97%
Sierra ==> Nine Hammers @ 103%
Sill ==> There is No Try @ 91%
Sill TC ==> Extra Shot @ 106%
Silliman ==> The Downward Spiral @ 107%
Silver ==> The Downward Spiral @ 111%
Silverthrone ==> ISLAGIATT @ 56%
Silvertip ==> Half is Easy @ 77%
Sirretta ==> Local Hero @ 90%
Sisters ==> Revolver @ 83%
Sleeping Beauty ==> Fight Club @ 73%
Slide ==> Revolver @ 78%
Slide Mountain ==> The Hunted @ 79%
Smith ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 109%
Solomons ==> The Downward Spiral @ 108%
Sonora ==> The Rookie @ 106%
South Guard ==> Local Hero @ 102%
South Twin ==> Half is Easy @ 85%
Spanish ==> Violator @ 97%
Spanish Needle ==> Half is Easy @ 147%
Spencer ==> Revolver @ 98%
Sphinx ==> Elements of Style @ 147%
Spinervals 11.0 Big Gear Stren ==> The Downward Spiral @ 84%
Spinervals 27.0 Threshold Test ==> Nine Hammers @ 102%
Springer Mountain ==> ISLAGIATT @ 83%
Spruce Knob ==> ISLAGIATT @ 77%
Stanford ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 105%
Stanislaus ==> Half is Easy @ 93%
Star ==> Half is Easy @ 80%
Starlight ==> ISLAGIATT @ 90%
Starr ==> Chrysalis Bike @ 101%
Starr King ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 96%
State ==> Local Hero @ 91%
Steamboat ==> Fight Club @ 77%
Steele ==> Half is Easy @ 66%
Stevens ==> The Rookie @ 106%
Stewart ==> Local Hero @ 97%
Stone Mountain ==> Half is Easy @ 100%
Striped ==> Violator @ 90%
Striped TC ==> Half is Easy @ 87%
Table ==> The Hunted @ 96%
Table Rock ==> The Hunted @ 79%
Taku ==> The Long Scream @ 57%
Tallac ==> Angels 2015 @ 94%
Taylor ==> The Downward Spiral @ 109%
Tecumseh ==> Blender @ 90%
Tehipite ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 76%
Temple ==> Local Hero @ 88%
Tenaya ==> ISLAGIATT @ 95%
The Chimneys ==> The Downward Spiral @ 79%
The Owl ==> The Downward Spiral @ 81%
The Pain Cave ==> The Wretched @ 89%
The Priest ==> Angels @ 88%
The Thumb ==> The Downward Spiral @ 106%
Thimble ==> Half is Easy @ 99%
Thompson ==> There is No Try @ 100%
Thor ==> Blender @ 108%
Three Sisters ==> Local Hero @ 88%
Thunder ==> The Rookie @ 92%
Thunderbolt ==> The Wretched @ 91%
Tiehacker ==> The Downward Spiral @ 84%
Tikaboo ==> Extra Shot @ 86%
Tinemaha ==> Fight Club @ 100%
Tinker ==> A Very Dark Place @ 93%
Tioga ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 102%
Tom ==> The Downward Spiral @ 109%
Torbert ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 106%
Toulumne ==> Angels 2015 @ 106%
Tour de Nez ==> There is No Try @ 121%
Tour de Nez +1 ==> Half is Easy @ 137%
Tour de Nez +2 ==> Blender @ 110%
Tower ==> Local Hero @ 89%
Trail Trainer Bearclaw Poppy ==> Extra Shot @ 106%
Trail Trainer Bootleg Canyon ==> Revolver @ 90%
Trail Trainer Corner Canyon ==> The Wretched @ 93%
Trail Trainer Gooseberry Mesa ==> Angels @ 107%
Trail Trainer Wasatch Crest ==> Local Hero @ 105%
TrainerPowerCurveMeasurement ==> Elements of Style @ 190%
Tray Mountain ==> ISLAGIATT @ 77%
Treasure ==> Blender @ 85%
Triple Divide ==> The Downward Spiral @ 107%
Trojan ==> ISLAGIATT @ 90%
Truuli ==> The Downward Spiral @ 76%
Truuli -1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 65%
Truuli -2 ==> Half is Easy @ 62%
Tunemah ==> Local Hero @ 91%
Tunnabora ==> The Rookie @ 91%
Tunnabora TC ==> Half is Easy @ 63%
Twin Peaks ==> Angels 2015 @ 101%
Twin Peaks TC ==> The Long Scream @ 88%
Tyndall ==> The Downward Spiral @ 104%
Tyndall TC ==> Half is Easy @ 88%
Unicorn ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 108%
University ==> Angels 2015 @ 104%
Vancouver ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 107%
Vandever ==> Revolver @ 85%
Vennacher ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 100%
Verstegg ==> Angels 2015 @ 102%
Virginia ==> Blender @ 69%
Virginia +1 ==> ISLAGIATT @ 77%
Virtual Race Across America ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 92%
Vogelsang ==> Violator @ 112%
Volunteer ==> The Long Scream @ 65%
Wallace ==> Angels 2015 @ 100%
Warlow ==> Blender @ 87%
Warren ==> ISLAGIATT @ 75%
Washington ==> The Downward Spiral @ 92%
West Vidette ==> The Wretched @ 68%
West Vidette +1 ==> The Hunted @ 69%
Whaleback ==> Elements of Style @ 147%
Wheel ==> Blender @ 87%
Wheeler ==> A Very Dark Place @ 93%
White ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 77%
White Cap ==> ISLAGIATT @ 104%
Whiteface ==> The Downward Spiral @ 97%
Whiteside ==> ISLAGIATT @ 100%
Whitney ==> Half is Easy @ 55%
Whorl ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 67%
Williamson ==> The Downward Spiral @ 96%
Winchell ==> Blender @ 93%
Window ==> Local Hero @ 86%
Wolfjaw ==> Blender @ 83%
Wolfjaw +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 100%
Wolfjaw +2 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 103%
Wolfjaw +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 106%
Woodworth ==> The Rookie @ 101%
Wrangell ==> Hell Hath No Fury @ 107%
Wright Peak ==> ISLAGIATT @ 100%
Wynne ==> Violator @ 86%
Wynne TC ==> Half is Easy @ 83%
Xalibu ==> The Downward Spiral @ 93%
Xalibu +1 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 104%
Xalibu +2 ==> Violator @ 107%
Xalibu +3 ==> The Downward Spiral @ 103%
Young ==> There is No Try @ 97%
Young TC ==> Elements of Style @ 113%
In case you are interested in the details, here is how the algorithm works. For each target workout in TrainerRoad, it scales each of the Sufferfest workouts to have the same TSS as the target workout. Then, it calculates the time spent in each zone for the scaled workouts. Finally, it selects the scaled Sufferfest workout that has the "closest" distribution of time in each zone as the target workout, where distributions are compared using earth-mover distance.

Undoubtedly there are improvements to make. Please let me know your suggestions.

There are some small differences in my calculated TSS values versus the values reported in TrainerRoad. I think these differences are caused by how I am decoding the workout intervals. For example, if a workout does not specify a target power for a certain interval, I don't have any way of accurately computing a TSS. If you see any suggested replacements that are really suspect, let me know and I will look at that specific example.

EDIT 2014-08-20: Re-ran the algorithm to capture the new workouts in TR and SufferFest. List updated.


EDIT 2015-02-18: Re-ran the algorithm to capture the new workouts in TR and SufferFest. List updated.


Last edited by: agg: Feb 18, 15 19:10
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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If I could bookmark this thread forever, I would do just that. Strong work.
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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Are you f'ing kidding me? I don't care if you made all of that up, that's impressive. Thanks for making me feel inadequate so early on a Saturday.

Strong, early candidate for post of the year.
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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Amazing.
The knowledge and technical abilities of triathletes astounds me.

Dont complain about the results you did n't get from the training you did n't do.
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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Holy crap. Nice work, very much appreciated. I have printed this to make sure it's easily available!
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [IanH] [ In reply to ]
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Saw that it was recommending Sufferfest at over 100%...


...said fuck it and went back to bed.
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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Holy moly!

That's some nice work.

I think the ones with more than 100% are hitting workouts that are longer than the TR workout. Ie, 5x20 minute sweet spot intervals.

Very cool!

CEO at TrainerRoad
Co-host of the Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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great work. thanks.
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome. Slowtwitch never fails!
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [flynnzu] [ In reply to ]
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As awesome as that is, and awesome it indeed is, anything that puts forth Hell Hath No Fury at over 100% is bonkers..!!

Edit: Remind me never to do Picket Guard on the basis of the above..
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knighty76 wrote:
As awesome as that is, and awesome it indeed is, anything that puts forth Hell Hath No Fury at over 100% is bonkers..!!

Edit: Remind me never to do Picket Guard on the basis of the above..

Agreed. HHNF at 100% is painful enough. Over 100%? How about a nice tall glass of NOPE
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [noofus] [ In reply to ]
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Seriously HHNF at 100% is no joke!!!

But i have tried twice ISLAGIATT now. Once at 100% NOPE

Once at 95%: NOPE again.

So marcus baker = ISLAGIATT at 112%

HAHAHAHHA

PUHLEASE!
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [snoop] [ In reply to ]
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snoop wrote:
Seriously HHNF at 100% is no joke!!!

But i have tried twice ISLAGIATT now. Once at 100% NOPE

Once at 95%: NOPE again.

So marcus baker = ISLAGIATT at 112%

HAHAHAHHA

PUHLEASE!

The thing is that marcus baker is almost over 45 mins longer than GIATT...so, in order to get the same TSS, you'd have to do it at that harder effort to equal the same TSS of mb...

that being said, sufferfest is hard enough at 100% effort, so i can see how increasing power by 10% would seem unrealistic...

Good list...good work.
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [d00d] [ In reply to ]
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definitely

I just found it and i am glad i did because sufferfest are more entertaining than just looking at power target (no offense to TR as it is probably the best bike buy after my garmin vectors).

Good day

JD
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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I saw the post from last February with the SF equivalents to TR workouts. I was curious if you've made any refinements to the algorithm. Have you run the program again since there are newer TR and SF workouts now available? Amazing work!
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I'm glad you found the post interesting. Thanks for the reminder about the new workouts. I re-ran the code and updated my earlier post.

Sorry for the delay in responding to this. I couldn't remember where I put the code, but found it when I was looking for some code to post in another thread.
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snoop wrote:
Seriously HHNF at 100% is no joke!!!

But i have tried twice ISLAGIATT now. Once at 100% NOPE

Once at 95%: NOPE again.

So marcus baker = ISLAGIATT at 112%

HAHAHAHHA

PUHLEASE!

Yeah, ISLAGIATT done at true 100% is like crazy hard!

I will add - I got a Wahoo Kickr earlier this year, and it makes Sufferfest easier than doing it on a fluid trainer with powertap. It's not because the power is off - it's because the rampup /rampdown of power on the Kickr before hitting the interval power causes you to be -5% or so on average off the power target, whereas when I would do the same interval on a Fluid2 trainer+powertap, I'd often have to exceed the power of the interval at times to make up for any power dips or slower-than expected rampup to power.

I had wondered how some folks said ISLAGIATT done on a KICKR was totally no problem on prior posts - I strongly suspect this is a large reason. 5% doesn't seem like a lot of variance, but if you're sitting right on threshold power, going 5% over will mean burning matches that you can't get back, whereas going under 5% means still working out at a sustainable intensity.
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d00d wrote:
snoop wrote:
Seriously HHNF at 100% is no joke!!!

But i have tried twice ISLAGIATT now. Once at 100% NOPE

Once at 95%: NOPE again.

So marcus baker = ISLAGIATT at 112%

HAHAHAHHA

PUHLEASE!


The thing is that marcus baker is almost over 45 mins longer than GIATT...so, in order to get the same TSS, you'd have to do it at that harder effort to equal the same TSS of mb...

that being said, sufferfest is hard enough at 100% effort, so i can see how increasing power by 10% would seem unrealistic...

Good list...good work.

that moment when u "trying" to do HHNF at 100% and the crank STOP moving within 5min of the second 20min interval...

priceless!

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!

Great stuff.
Adam
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [agg] [ In reply to ]
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Is there any way to run this algorithm again to update this to inlcude the back end of 2014 workouts? Would have thought that maybe the Rookie, Half is Easy would supplant some of these.

Cheers!
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Chocorua ==> ISLAGIATT @ 109%

Note to self - never do Chocorua. Looks like a looooooong 3 hours.

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While no doubt difficult, you have to remember that you are making ISLAGIATT (2 hours) equate to Chocorua (3 hours) which is why you have to exceed 100%. Save an hour of saddle time, but the intensity is going to be very, very high to come out the other end with a similar TSS.
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Re: TrainerRoad Plans and Sufferfest [OkotoksLawyer] [ In reply to ]
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Done
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