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Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis
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Place: Western Australia
Shortis on sub-eight hour mark!
RACETIME: 07:31
Fans are shouting to Shortis as he is on pace to finish this year's Soul Ironman in under eight hours! Not seeming to falter once on his run, with under 25 minutes left in the race fingers are crossed and a cool breeze seems to be in his favour.
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [TheRock] [ In reply to ]
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where are you viewing the race. Ironman live?
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [bbbazza] [ In reply to ]
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An age grouper went 4.26 on the bike as well!!!!

Matt Illingworth from Wellington, NZ
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [TheRock] [ In reply to ]
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aarghh he didnt quite make it...8:03:57



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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [show pony] [ In reply to ]
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aarghh he didnt quite make it...8:03:57

Still an awfully fast time.

-C

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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [TheRock] [ In reply to ]
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what happened to luke bell?



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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [ironboom] [ In reply to ]
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he pulled out before the 1st half of the bike. Accordingly, he is not recovered from Kona.
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [TheRock] [ In reply to ]
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A friend of mine is doing this race and seems to have had something go wrong on the run. Maybe it's a glitch in the split info, but looks like conditions were ideal!

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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [fulla] [ In reply to ]
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Matt is an age-grouper Triathlete but ex top level cyclist from the UK.
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [fulla] [ In reply to ]
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Matt Illingworth was 3rd fastest bike I think At IMNZ (truncated) in march, about 1:30 back of Cam B and Ain A-J. National TT champ, and GB Rep cyclist.

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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [show pony] [ In reply to ]
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Amazing...Shortis is the most consistent person if you want to bet on a 2:4x run split...what did he do this time?
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [TheRock] [ In reply to ]
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The course is well known to be short, at least on the run. One of the relay runners did a 2:01 marathon last year, so if it is the same run course it is probably at least two miles short.

Shortening the course to get fast times is a good way for a race to get noticed. As far as I am concerned the 8:00 barrier has never truly been broken, either the courses were short, or the bikers were drafting the the lead vehicles.

Just waiting for the post to tell me to stop being a playa hater. Well there is no Easter Bunny, Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy either.

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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [Tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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what makes you think the course is short? haven't exactly seen a ton of fast run times there. the men were downright slow yesterday.

oh, and the 2:01 relay runner - that was a wheelchair athlete, so not really that big a deal since guys go like 1:30 or so.
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [Tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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No it's not short but it is absolutely flat. The only uphill on the course is stepping over the gutter onto the footpath.
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [Tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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T-Y, If you are referring to McLean's marathon from last year, remember that he is a wheelchair athlete, so sub 2 hrs is not unusual. I recall that he found that a 'hard' marathon last year as it is flat, so no real breaks for the arms. He clocked well under 4 hours for the 2x marathon at Ultraman last week, after finishing over the time limit on the first day (too much climbing for a hand-cycle).

I've not heard from anywhere else that the course is short at IMWA, but that it is FLAT.



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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [devashish paul] [ In reply to ]
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Amazing...Shortis is the most consistent person if you want to bet on a 2:4x run split...what did he do this time?

Well, I think The Sergio might have something to say about that!

Looks like Shortis went 2:49 and there were only two people under 3 hours for the run (winner of M35-39 being the other).

Great race!

-C

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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [Tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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The course is well known to be short, at least on the run. One of the relay runners did a 2:01 marathon last year, so if it is the same run course it is probably at least two miles short.

Shortening the course to get fast times is a good way for a race to get noticed. As far as I am concerned the 8:00 barrier has never truly been broken, either the courses were short, or the bikers were drafting the the lead vehicles.

Just waiting for the post to tell me to stop being a playa hater. Well there is no Easter Bunny, Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy either.

Hey playa, why ya hatin'?

Yeah, there are short courses out there, but I doubt any major race such as this one would be able to get away with having a run two miles short. In an interview Stadler and Markus Foster said that Roth was about 500m short. At the pointy end of the field, that's less than two minutes.

-C

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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [Tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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Well I live here and know alot of the guys racing, I have never heard any notion of the run course being short. The bike times were very fast this year as it is the first time it has not been windy.
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [Tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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triyoda

Where did that come from???

Your so far off the mark it is laughable.

dan
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [brentl] [ In reply to ]
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what makes you think the course is short? haven't exactly seen a ton of fast run times there. the men were downright slow yesterday.

oh, and the 2:01 relay runner - that was a wheelchair athlete, so not really that big a deal since guys go like 1:30 or so.
I didn't realize he was a wheelchair athlete. I didn't think they they would let you use a wheelchair athlete in an open relay, so looking at the results it looks like the course is way short. In the Boston marathon the wheelchair winners usually go about 1:4X, about 20 minutes faster than the open men.

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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [dan10] [ In reply to ]
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triyoda

Where did that come from???

Your so far off the mark it is laughable.

dan

That the course is short? Shortis is no better than top 25 in the world at IM distance. If he can win a race that is not short in 8:02, then Stadler and Faris would be fighting to go sub 7:50. Maybe the course is accurate maybe not; it is probably not close to 2 miles short as the results from 2005 originally lead me to believe. As far as the 2:01 there ought to be a disclaimer in the results, as the time is listed as a split for an open relay.

Where my post came from is that everyone is obsessed with IM times. They mean very little to dissect them to the minute (maybe +/- 10 minutes makes a little sense) since courses and conditions vary so much.

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"When I first had the opportunity to compete in triathlon, it was the chicks and their skimpy race clothing that drew me in. Everyone was so welcoming and the lifestyle so obviously narcissistic. I fed off of that vain energy. To me it is what the sport is all about."
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Re: Sub 8hr Ironman coming up - Shortis [TheRock] [ In reply to ]
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The really incredible thing about this race yesterday is that 4 age groupers went sub 9 hours and three of them are 44 years old. Holy Moly.


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