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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [dyarab] [ In reply to ]
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I say remove anything that is judged. To me that is not a sport, it is an exhibition. I'm not saying those who partake in them (gymnastics, diving) aren't incredible athletes but who wins is based on opinion... for the most part. It's horse shit.

Having some background in diving and being around my younger brother's national/international dive meets, I can say that the scoring tends to be very close and consistent across divers and meets. It would be neat to do a statistical study on that, but from experience the scores tend to be fair. Obviously there can be errors made by the judges, but I don't think that makes diving not a sport. I would make the comparison to how it was before the advent of touchpads in swimming- the fact that the result of the meet depended on the judgment of a person with a stopwatch didn't make the sport "horse shit".
I can't speak to other judged sports but I'd imagine those also have competent, consistent, and fair judges.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [PGelbach] [ In reply to ]
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PGelbach wrote:
dyarab wrote:
I say remove anything that is judged. To me that is not a sport, it is an exhibition. I'm not saying those who partake in them (gymnastics, diving) aren't incredible athletes but who wins is based on opinion... for the most part. It's horse shit.


Having some background in diving and being around my younger brother's national/international dive meets, I can say that the scoring tends to be very close and consistent across divers and meets. It would be neat to do a statistical study on that, but from experience the scores tend to be fair. Obviously there can be errors made by the judges, but I don't think that makes diving not a sport. I would make the comparison to how it was before the advent of touchpads in swimming- the fact that the result of the meet depended on the judgment of a person with a stopwatch didn't make the sport "horse shit".
I can't speak to other judged sports but I'd imagine those also have competent, consistent, and fair judges.
We should just let all the judges watch each dive in slow mo.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [PGelbach] [ In reply to ]
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PGelbach wrote:
dyarab wrote:
I say remove anything that is judged. To me that is not a sport, it is an exhibition. I'm not saying those who partake in them (gymnastics, diving) aren't incredible athletes but who wins is based on opinion... for the most part. It's horse shit.

Having some background in diving and being around my younger brother's national/international dive meets, I can say that the scoring tends to be very close and consistent across divers and meets. It would be neat to do a statistical study on that, but from experience the scores tend to be fair. Obviously there can be errors made by the judges, but I don't think that makes diving not a sport. I would make the comparison to how it was before the advent of touchpads in swimming- the fact that the result of the meet depended on the judgment of a person with a stopwatch didn't make the sport "horse shit".
I can't speak to other judged sports but I'd imagine those also have competent, consistent, and fair judges.

Ski Jumping where they get marks for style, what a joke, who jumps furthest wins, but no judges give marks for style, poofters.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Surfing was just added for 2020, and I'd already like to see it removed.

What a stupid idea it is to add a sport that requires a distinct, and relatively rare, natural phenomenon to an event that regularly occurs in places where that phenomenon does not exist.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [arby] [ In reply to ]
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Obviously you young folks weren't around for one of the most memorable sporting events in history! When USA won the hockey gold medal in a contest known as the "Miracle on Ice!". That hockey team had the attention of the world that year. I don't like hockey myself, but I watched that game back in 1980!
I always thought the medal round game against the ussr was the miracle on ice. The gold medal game was against Finland
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [champy] [ In reply to ]
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I feel the Olympics should just be sports that are not mainstream.

Golf, Basketball, Tennis, Soccer --- sports like this should not be in the Olympics.

I agree with golf, but mostly because the golfers don't seem to care. I really like Olympic soccer, and I am not a soccer fan. I feel like it is next to the world cup. You did not mention Hockey, but olympic hockey is great! The NHL players love going home to play for their home countries and unlike basketball, hockey is competitive on the national level.

To me it is a shame they axed wrestling in favor of any of those sports however. I do not like wrestling, but to me the sport screams olympics and I feel like it may be the nail in the coffin for the sport.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [TennesseeJed] [ In reply to ]
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champy wrote:
I feel the Olympics should just be sports that are not mainstream.

Golf, Basketball, Tennis, Soccer --- sports like this should not be in the Olympics.


I agree with golf, but mostly because the golfers don't seem to care. I really like Olympic soccer, and I am not a soccer fan. I feel like it is next to the world cup. You did not mention Hockey, but olympic hockey is great! The NHL players love going home to play for their home countries and unlike basketball, hockey is competitive on the national level.

To me it is a shame they axed wrestling in favor of any of those sports however. I do not like wrestling, but to me the sport screams olympics and I feel like it may be the nail in the coffin for the sport.

Oh, I guess wrestling got reinstated... woops.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [TennesseeJed] [ In reply to ]
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TennesseeJed wrote:
champy wrote:
I feel the Olympics should just be sports that are not mainstream.

Golf, Basketball, Tennis, Soccer --- sports like this should not be in the Olympics.


I agree with golf, but mostly because the golfers don't seem to care. I really like Olympic soccer, and I am not a soccer fan. I feel like it is next to the world cup. You did not mention Hockey, but olympic hockey is great! The NHL players love going home to play for their home countries and unlike basketball, hockey is competitive on the national level.

To me it is a shame they axed wrestling in favor of any of those sports however. I do not like wrestling, but to me the sport screams olympics and I feel like it may be the nail in the coffin for the sport.
I like that the men's Olympic soccer is U23, mostly. You get to see upcoming players and teams that are not the same as the World Cup.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [TennesseeJed] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah I like Olympic hockey as well, much more competitive globally.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [mck414] [ In reply to ]
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Trampoline. It's gotta go. We have gymnastics already.

Doh! There's goes Canada's only hope of a gold medal
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Trev] [ In reply to ]
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Trolling are we?

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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Sidney Porter] [ In reply to ]
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arby wrote:
Obviously you young folks weren't around for one of the most memorable sporting events in history! When USA won the hockey gold medal in a contest known as the "Miracle on Ice!". That hockey team had the attention of the world that year. I don't like hockey myself, but I watched that game back in 1980!
I always thought the medal round game against the ussr was the miracle on ice. The gold medal game was against Finland

Correct. Miracle on Ice against the Russians was the opening game of the medal round, and they beat Finland two days later for the gold. They were losing to the Finns after the second period and Herb Brooks spoke only one sentence to the team in the locker room: "You lose this game, you'll take it to your fucking graves!" and the rest is history.

As to the OP, I'd get rid of rhythmic gymnastics, golf, tennis and the extreme sports.



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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [spudone] [ In reply to ]
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I like most of dogmile's list. I would leave the martial arts in there though, and I like equestrian and sailing but that's just me.

Rio will take care of marathon swimming heh.

I agree with you here. I think most of his list is pretty close to what I would get rid of and keep, but like you I would leave the martial arts and also the gymnastics. I think that is a big part of the Olympics and it really is the pinnacle of the sport. Watching what those guys and girls can do is unbelievable.

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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [zachboring] [ In reply to ]
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I generally dislike the olympics due to many of these points. It really does put a lot of host cities in a bind financially and that's just downright sad.

But in a hypocrite because I will have my eyes glued to a few events. Just wish they were out in in a smarter way without the hole host city thing.

I grew up in a host city, Montreal, where we paid dearly for years for the enjoyment of the rest of the world by our misguided tax money being spent on useless infrastructure that we as athletes never even got to use. Soooooooooo, since my family cross subsidized the rest of the world's eyeballs with some of our tax money, I am more than glad if other cities are equally stupid and want to pay for my enjoyment....I suppose in a small way I have a bit of moral high ground having lived through the aftermath of being a family from a host city. But yeah, it is a bit hypocritical to enjoy the Olympics on someone else's dime especially when poor people are being de prioritized in terms of basic services in their city/country to pay for a global party, but I guess its how the world turns.

But hey Peter Uberroth figured out a way to host the LA Olympics and make money....why can't anyone else pull that off?
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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Runningwithbees wrote:
I think the Olympics should include only the sports where winning an Olympic Gold is the highest achievement one can have.

Nobody grows up with dreams to win a gold medal playing basketball or golf or tennis. They want to win the NBA title, and major championships.

A wrestler that has Olympic Gold aspirations truly can't win anything higher than an Olympic Gold. I think that is how it should be.

^^^^This.

.....plus any sport that gives points for "artistic impression".

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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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This will show my US bias but I've always thought if your sport has a bigger event then your out.


Basketball out
Cycling (road race) out
Soccer out
golf out
Tennis out



(Yes I know it's an American homer pov)

Olympics should be for the weird sports to get their 4 mins of fame every 4th year- table tennis, biathlon, diving, rowing etc.

What's even dumber to me is what each sports allows for the teams to compete. I think soccer has u23 for men's but women gets its stars.

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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [arby] [ In reply to ]
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arby wrote:
Obviously you young folks weren't around for one of the most memorable sporting events in history! When USA won the hockey gold medal in a contest known as the "Miracle on Ice!". That hockey team had the attention of the world that year. I don't like hockey myself, but I watched that game back in 1980!

What team did the USA beat in the final?
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [dyarab] [ In reply to ]
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You said it perfectly!
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Any activity that includes the use of music as an integral part of the sport.
As pointed out before, anything that is judged.
Anything where men wear a costume, sparkly things or chiffon (figure skating).
Shooting (but not biathlon in the Winter Olympics, that sport is awesome!), archery, badminton.
I agree with the swimming event post that said to exclude all swimming events except freestyle.
Race walking.
Opening ceremonies.
Closing ceremonies.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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Halvard wrote:
arby wrote:
Obviously you young folks weren't around for one of the most memorable sporting events in history! When USA won the hockey gold medal in a contest known as the "Miracle on Ice!". That hockey team had the attention of the world that year. I don't like hockey myself, but I watched that game back in 1980!

What team did the USA beat in the final?

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Sweden.

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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Sbradley11] [ In reply to ]
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Halvard wrote:
arby wrote:
Obviously you young folks weren't around for one of the most memorable sporting events in history! When USA won the hockey gold medal in a contest known as the "Miracle on Ice!". That hockey team had the attention of the world that year. I don't like hockey myself, but I watched that game back in 1980!


What team did the USA beat in the final?


http://lmgtfy.com

Sweden.

What is interesting with the 1980 hockey tournament is that it had no final.
Many think the USA beat the Soviet in a final. Mostly because the story has grown since 1980.
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Brooks Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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Basketball out
Cycling (road race) out
Soccer out
golf out
Tennis out

Olympics should be for the weird sports to get their 4 mins of fame every 4th year- table tennis, biathlon, diving, rowing etc.

What's even dumber to me is what each sports allows for the teams to compete. I think soccer has u23 for men's but women gets its stars.
Basketball, Men's Cycling Road Race and ITT, Golf, and Tennis have to go.

Women's cycling in the Olympics still makes sense.

Women's soccer in the Olympics is OK. They could drop the men's tournament (U-23 but you can have 3 older players and a player's club can refuse to allow their players to participate in the Olympics). But other than the World Cup, the Olympics is about the only time people pay attention to women's soccer.

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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Sbradley11] [ In reply to ]
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Halvard wrote:
arby wrote:
Obviously you young folks weren't around for one of the most memorable sporting events in history! When USA won the hockey gold medal in a contest known as the "Miracle on Ice!". That hockey team had the attention of the world that year. I don't like hockey myself, but I watched that game back in 1980!


What team did the USA beat in the final?


http://lmgtfy.com

Sweden.

You can do better than that, and although Finland was taken over by Swedes some time ago, in 1980 when the Finland team got the silver medal it was well past the time of ancient Swedish rule.

As a minimum, you should know that the finish line of the first continental US Ironman in Lake Placid is around 200 feet from the ice where the USA won that 1980 Hockey Gold Medal (not to mention the finish chute is the same won where Eric Heiden got his 5 Gold medals in speed skating.

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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Sbradley11 wrote:
Halvard wrote:
arby wrote:
Obviously you young folks weren't around for one of the most memorable sporting events in history! When USA won the hockey gold medal in a contest known as the "Miracle on Ice!". That hockey team had the attention of the world that year. I don't like hockey myself, but I watched that game back in 1980!


What team did the USA beat in the final?


http://lmgtfy.com

Sweden.


You can do better than that, and although Finland was taken over by Swedes some time ago, in 1980 when the Finland team got the silver medal it was well past the time of ancient Swedish rule.

As a minimum, you should know that the finish line of the first continental US Ironman in Lake Placid is around 200 feet from the ice where the USA won that 1980 Hockey Gold Medal (not to mention the finish chute is the same won where Eric Heiden got his 5 Gold medals in speed skating.

Dev

Yes the USA beat Finland in the last game. But Soviet got the silver medal.

The tournament did not have a final. People have a tendency to forget that
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Re: Sports you'd like to see removed from the Olympics [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Get rid of swimming, running, wrestling, gymnastics,... He'll get rid of Everything except half pipe snowboarding, team handball, and bmx.

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