The cyclist has given us all a bad name (you can imagine how the comment section is going on the sheriff’s Facebook post looking for information) so I’m torn whether I point them to Strava or not since I don’t have any direct info but odds are fairly high it would be one of this group given how remote this spot is.
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The cyclist has given us all a bad name (you can imagine how the comment section is going on the sheriff’s Facebook post looking for information) so I’m torn whether I point them to Strava or not since I don’t have any direct info but odds are fairly high it would be one of this group given how remote this spot is.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [wjoiner]
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Will you get a reward? Haha!
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [wjoiner]
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Looks more like a SPD cleat (in a MTB shoe) to me.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [wjoiner]
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Agree. Mountain bike riders. Rat them out
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [wjoiner]
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$2,000 in damage?
Did it dry so they have to rip it all up and repour it?
Did it dry so they have to rip it all up and repour it?
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [wjoiner]
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Post a comment on their strava activity with a link to the damages and tell them you trust they'll do the right thing.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Slowrunner711]
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Slowrunner711 wrote:
Agree. Mountain bike riders. Rat them outNo way. MTBers are cool. Roadies riding gravel, like the OP said.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Lurker4]
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Lurker4 wrote:
Post a comment on their strava activity with a link to the damages and tell them you trust they'll do the right thing.This.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [wjoiner]
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how about turn a negative into a positive. start a go fund me page, raise $2,000 (or more), present it to the city on behalf of cyclists who're ashamed of what one of their own did. and call the local paper once you have the money raised. share the link here. i'm happy to contribute.
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Dan Empfield
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Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
how about turn a negative into a positive. start a go fund me page, raise $2,000 (or more), present it to the city on behalf of cyclists who're ashamed of what one of their own did. and call the local paper once you have the money raised. share the link here. i'm happy to contribute.This is a good idea.
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Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [MattyK]
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Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [RandMart]
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How could you differentiate between mtb and aggressive gravel treads these days?
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Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
how about turn a negative into a positive. start a go fund me page, raise $2,000 (or more), present it to the city on behalf of cyclists who're ashamed of what one of their own did. and call the local paper once you have the money raised. share the link here. i'm happy to contribute.Not sure if I agree this is a positive idea. Bunch of irresponsible cyclists do deliberate damage that will cost taxpayers money and will inevitably reflect bad on everyone in the cycling community. And then the OP, will go and do the work to fix the bad apples blunder without any of them having to even own their mistake?
I would call them out on Strava and say, hey..do the right thing, otherwise we will report this.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Engner66]
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Engner66 wrote:
Slowman wrote:
how about turn a negative into a positive. start a go fund me page, raise $2,000 (or more), present it to the city on behalf of cyclists who're ashamed of what one of their own did. and call the local paper once you have the money raised. share the link here. i'm happy to contribute.Not sure if I agree this is a positive idea. Bunch of irresponsible cyclists do deliberate damage that will cost taxpayers money and will inevitably reflect bad on everyone in the cycling community. And then the OP, will go and do the work to fix the bad apples blunder without any of them having to even own their mistake?
I would call them out on Strava and say, hey..do the right thing, otherwise we will report this.
to me, optics trumps justice in this case. the audience i'm most interested in - in the context of this kind of thing - are non-cyclists. they agree to pay (or not pay) for bike lanes, bike paths, etc., and to create a cycling-friendly environment. they do or don't vote to pass defensible space laws (minimum distance between cyclists and cars). they also do or don't try to run me over with their cars, depending on mood. nobody needs to convince (most) europeans that cyclists are friends and not enemies. it's not that way in the U.S., but perhaps it could be.
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Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [wjoiner]
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Was it with intent to damage,or lost cyclist just getting on the road cause daylight is fading away?
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Engner66]
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How about doing both? Start the GFM page and turn them in. Some justice will occur and some good will for the “good” cyclists will occur.
Not a coach. Not a FOP Tri/swimmer/biker/runner. Barely a MOP AGer.
But I'm learning and making progress.
Not a coach. Not a FOP Tri/swimmer/biker/runner. Barely a MOP AGer.
But I'm learning and making progress.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [M----n]
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M----n wrote:
How could you differentiate between mtb and aggressive gravel treads these days?Honestly, I can't; that's why I posted "maybe?"
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Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [wjoiner]
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The only crime here is a $2000 price tag. 100% esthetics, 0% functional risk. In two years all that cement will be cracked with tar used to patch it up. You shouldn't feel the need to snitch unless there was a crime committed. Your efforts would be to shame someone, which will make you feel better about yourself vs actually solving a real problem. Would you snitch on your neighbor's 5 year old child who wrote, "I love my dad" in the cement?
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Jimbotri]
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That's a good point, too
Do a few footprints and a tire track really affect the performance of the road? I highly doubt it
And who's gonna notice as they drive or walk by?
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
Do a few footprints and a tire track really affect the performance of the road? I highly doubt it
And who's gonna notice as they drive or walk by?
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Engner66]
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Engner66 wrote:
Slowman wrote:
how about turn a negative into a positive. start a go fund me page, raise $2,000 (or more), present it to the city on behalf of cyclists who're ashamed of what one of their own did. and call the local paper once you have the money raised. share the link here. i'm happy to contribute.Not sure if I agree this is a positive idea. Bunch of irresponsible cyclists do deliberate damage that will cost taxpayers money and will inevitably reflect bad on everyone in the cycling community. And then the OP, will go and do the work to fix the bad apples blunder without any of them having to even own their mistake?
I would call them out on Strava and say, hey..do the right thing, otherwise we will report this.
Why not both - start the go-fund me, and send the link to the cyclists in question suggesting that they consider a sizeable contribution to the effort considering wink wink nudge nudge.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Jimbotri]
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Jimbotri wrote:
The only crime here is a $2000 price tag. 100% esthetics, 0% functional risk. In two years all that cement will be cracked with tar used to patch it up. You shouldn't feel the need to snitch unless there was a crime committed. Your efforts would be to shame someone, which will make you feel better about yourself vs actually solving a real problem. Would you snitch on your neighbor's 5 year old child who wrote, "I love my dad" in the cement?The crime here would be vandalism.
And, no, a 5-year-old doing something is very different than (possibly) four adults.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Jimbotri]
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Jimbotri wrote:
The only crime here is a $2000 price tag. 100% esthetics, 0% functional risk. In two years all that cement will be cracked with tar used to patch it up. You shouldn't feel the need to snitch unless there was a crime committed. Your efforts would be to shame someone, which will make you feel better about yourself vs actually solving a real problem. Would you snitch on your neighbor's 5 year old child who wrote, "I love my dad" in the cement?The sheriff’s post was seeking help in identifying the individual, so I assume they feel there is a crime as minor as the charge may be.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Lurker4]
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Lurker4 wrote:
Post a comment on their strava activity with a link to the damages and tell them you trust they'll do the right thing.UPDATE - this is what I did (without accusing, just making aware) - posted a comment on one of the group riders who crossed that section. He quickly deleted and messaged me an hour or so later by other means. He thanked me for letting him know about the sheriff’s post and said it wasn’t his group but knew who it was. He contacted the individual and claims they have already identified themselves to the authorities. He’s a good guy so trust him at his word.
Re: Snitch or not to snitch? [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
Engner66 wrote:
Slowman wrote:
how about turn a negative into a positive. start a go fund me page, raise $2,000 (or more), present it to the city on behalf of cyclists who're ashamed of what one of their own did. and call the local paper once you have the money raised. share the link here. i'm happy to contribute.Not sure if I agree this is a positive idea. Bunch of irresponsible cyclists do deliberate damage that will cost taxpayers money and will inevitably reflect bad on everyone in the cycling community. And then the OP, will go and do the work to fix the bad apples blunder without any of them having to even own their mistake?
I would call them out on Strava and say, hey..do the right thing, otherwise we will report this.
to me, optics trumps justice in this case. the audience i'm most interested in - in the context of this kind of thing - are non-cyclists. they agree to pay (or not pay) for bike lanes, bike paths, etc., and to create a cycling-friendly environment. they do or don't vote to pass defensible space laws (minimum distance between cyclists and cars). they also do or don't try to run me over with their cars, depending on mood. nobody needs to convince (most) europeans that cyclists are friends and not enemies. it's not that way in the U.S., but perhaps it could be.
I like the idea of a Gofundme for the optics, but I’m too cynical I guess. I feel those who are negative on cyclists aren’t going to change their minds because we raised some money. Plus, reaching out via Strava got the individual to identify themselves to the authorities.
trail wrote:
The crime here would be vandalismI'm pretty sure that to be charged with vandalism (also falls under criminal mischief in some states) malicious intent had to be proved
"Oh shit! That was cement and it was still wet" would be a reasonable defense
I'm no lawyer, of course, but my daughter works for one - I could ask?
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin