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Sagan win SRM
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Re: Sagan win SRM [[SK]peter] [ In reply to ]
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39kph on 206 watts. Drafting = fun
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Re: Sagan win SRM [tigerpaws] [ In reply to ]
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tigerpaws wrote:
39kph on 206 watts. Drafting = fun

don't even have to draft to do that. see "abu" in the 40k results thread!



Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter
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Re: Sagan win SRM [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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No kidding? That must be one slickendy position and attention to detail.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [[SK]peter] [ In reply to ]
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Excerpts for the lazy:

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In the final 1.5km Cancellara initiated the sprint uphill. Peter Sagan ramped up his cadence to over 120rpm to stay with him and averaged 493 watts in the last 2 minutes 20 seconds of the race.

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Peter soared up the incline with a 1,236 watt surge to his stage win averaging 970 watts in the final 200 meters.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
tigerpaws wrote:
39kph on 206 watts. Drafting = fun


don't even have to draft to do that. see "abu" in the 40k results thread!

No choice, but to be aero when you have an engine as small as mine.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [tigerpaws] [ In reply to ]
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I went sub-hour for a 40K TT on 205 watts - it does help if the course is at 5000 feet...
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Re: Sagan win SRM [[SK]peter] [ In reply to ]
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wow, i'm surprised that they are showing the data of a premier rider as opposed to that of a domestique

anyways, those number, per se, are nothing special. Gerros dialed it up to 1300W (being 20lbs lighter) at the end of a nearly 7-hr long race to win the MSR. I think in the last 2:20 of MSR, he did 400W. Albasini did ~550W for 3 minutes for the final ascent of the Mur de Huuy.

what that really shows is how hard the last 10-15km must have been quite hard if this was all the riders got. sustaining 500W for 2 minutes shouldn't be too hard, yet only a few were able to follow Cancellara's wheel. A lot of matches must have been burned during the run-in
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Re: Sagan win SRM [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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echappist wrote:
[SK wrote:
peter]http://www.srm.de/...g/tour-de-france/727
what that really shows is how hard the last 10-15km must have been quite hard if this was all the riders got. sustaining 500W for 2 minutes shouldn't be too hard, yet only a few were able to follow Cancellara's wheel. A lot of matches must have been burned during the run-in
Stage was ridiculous after the crash... no organization at all.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [Quantum] [ In reply to ]
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Quantum wrote:
echappist wrote:
[SK wrote:
peter]http://www.srm.de/...g/tour-de-france/727
what that really shows is how hard the last 10-15km must have been quite hard if this was all the riders got. sustaining 500W for 2 minutes shouldn't be too hard, yet only a few were able to follow Cancellara's wheel. A lot of matches must have been burned during the run-in
Stage was ridiculous after the crash... no organization at all.

i was glad to see that there weren't more carnage. they were going 10 wide at one point...
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Re: Sagan win SRM [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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the talent at Tdf is on another level!

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: Sagan win SRM [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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this.

500w for 2 minutes should be a cake walk for any cat 1 rider let alone a pro. And a 12xx watt sprint at the end of any race is quite low. Must have been a brutal day.

I'd bet there are plenty of guys on ST that could do those numbers...after a 20 min warm up :)
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Re: Sagan win SRM [%FTP] [ In reply to ]
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keep in mind the body mass, though it looks like sagan is 160lbs.

I might be able to do 500watts for 2 minutes at 175lbs. I can definitely do the 1,200 watt peak.

But I never ever ever in my life would have been there at the end of the day to try =)

%FTP wrote:
this.

500w for 2 minutes should be a cake walk for any cat 1 rider let alone a pro. And a 12xx watt sprint at the end of any race is quite low. Must have been a brutal day.

I'd bet there are plenty of guys on ST that could do those numbers...after a 20 min warm up :)



Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter
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Re: Sagan win SRM [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
I might be able to do 500watts for 2 minutes at 175lbs

Gonna have to DevPaul you there.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [James Haycraft] [ In reply to ]
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James Haycraft wrote:
jackmott wrote:
I might be able to do 500watts for 2 minutes at 175lbs

Gonna have to DevPaul you there.

awesome, I love an internet challenge!
my best so far is 446 powertap watts, golden cheetah thinks I should be able to do 489.

I will give it a try this week!



Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter
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Re: Sagan win SRM [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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All in good fun plus, given your love of strava-ing I know you're more than up to the challenge.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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I sure wish I could do what golden cheetah *thinks* i can do!
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Re: Sagan win SRM [%FTP] [ In reply to ]
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%FTP wrote:
I sure wish I could do what golden cheetah *thinks* i can do!

I can when its less than 10 minutes

I can not when it is more!



Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter
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Re: Sagan win SRM [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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How do you see your cp below 2 minutes? My little dotted line stops about 2 minutes.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [%FTP] [ In reply to ]
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Mine stops at 1:22. Not sure how it is plotted.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
James Haycraft wrote:
jackmott wrote:
I might be able to do 500watts for 2 minutes at 175lbs


Gonna have to DevPaul you there.


awesome, I love an internet challenge!
my best so far is 446 powertap watts, golden cheetah thinks I should be able to do 489.

I will give it a try this week!
Don't forget to ride for 5 hrs before doing the test :)
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Re: Sagan win SRM [gregf83] [ In reply to ]
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Not part of the challenge. It's obvious none of us could do that after 5 hrs of hard riding. I just said, do 500 watts for 2 minutes. Boom, challenge criteria established.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [tgarson] [ In reply to ]
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LOL! I can average 900 watts for about 1 second.... These kids are animals....

That was a wild finish, for sure. I couldn't believe Cancellara was dragging his big butt up that hill that fast. He's, what, about 175 to 180 lbs?

-Robert

"How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world." ~Anne Frank
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Re: Sagan win SRM [James Haycraft] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds painful. Turns out my best two minutes came by accident and included a 1min test up a hill. I wouldn't enjoy extending my 1min test for another minute.
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Re: Sagan win SRM [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
James Haycraft wrote:
jackmott wrote:
I might be able to do 500watts for 2 minutes at 175lbs


Gonna have to DevPaul you there.


awesome, I love an internet challenge!
my best so far is 446 powertap watts, golden cheetah thinks I should be able to do 489.

I will give it a try this week!

The easiest way would be to use some ridiculous slope number on an SRM....then everyone can become a 1000W for 2 minutes internet hero....just don't let anyone know what the slope number was.....or just go to another planet where gravity no longer presents that 9.8 m/s^^2 (like going to a small planet like Mercury)....suddenly you'll can have a new definiton of Newtons (in your new frame of reference) in the N-m/s part of definition of power....now you're laughing. You can be a stud on Mercury and claim hero status on Earth as long as no one knew you did it on Mercury :-)....just don't tell anyone that the acceleration due to gravity is 3.7 m/s^^s rather than 9.8.

Should we derate all numbers posted on ST by the Mercury normalization factor to get the real amount....or should we go with the 8.87 number of Venus....how honest are ST'ers. I'd like to be believe that no one is doing a Neil Armstrong 1. 624 m/s^^s moonwalk around here :-)

OK, carry on with the Sagan thing....
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