Pfft. Don't you know cycling is the dirty sport, silly?

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And people think the UCI is corrupt as hell.

Personally, I think FIFA blows them out of the water in corruptness.

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the other leagues have all long ago figured out that doping is good for business. Soccer, tennis, NFL football, basketball, baseball, triathlon etc. Cycling is the only one with a veneer of anti-doping, although this latest Froome decision, along with the Serena Williams missed test, puts the nail in the coffin for good.

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FIFA are turning a blind eye to wide spread slavery in Qatar there is no way they will push doping in Russia

When a team can American football tackle two players inside the 6 yard box and not get called for a penalty, doping falls way off the scope.

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This isn't very Swim, Bike or Run related.

IOC>FIFA>UCI

Not sure where the NFL sits in there, but they are in the mix.

Thinking the UCI is corrupt does not exclude the others. Anywhere there is large amounts of money there are people to abuse it and the power that goes along with it.

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I'm not sure the IOC is worse than FIFA. I think FIFA has been able to keep the lid on more tightly. And I actually think the NFL is nowhere near as bad as the IOC and FIFA.

It's not, I wonder how many people in this thread are actual proper match going football fans?

How can a sport 100x the size of cycling 100x under the microscope by fans and media go undetected for so long?

Not one high profile case, people need to look more towards Boxing for there daily steroid abuse fix!

Corruption at FIFA...say it ain't so....anyway here's a decent article on match fixing in football, including matches that didn't even take place but had large amounts of money wagered on them

http://m.espn.com/soccer/story?storyId=7927946&lang=EN&wjb=&pg=1

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How is soccer, running 90 to 120 minutes per game not "run related"?

Maradona. :)

I've long said football is rich turf for doping. at the high level that they play a huge number of minutes per year, and the money involved is insane. top players are now literally in the 9 figures and competition is intense and global.

to imagine that cycling is dirty but football isn't is either ignorant or naive.

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You're forgetting another big doped sport...track & field. Cycling sure, but t & f are about as realistic at the Oly & pro level as cycling is. WWF around a loop and tossing things, jumping around. It's entertainment anyhow.

Wasn't this was supposed to be in the pink font?

Perhaps US soccer team needs to talk with Lance

I would say that NFL and MLB make FIFA look like amateurs. I would say your own backyard first before you look elsewhere.

I think this thread belongs in the LR

Amateurs in what sense? Guys are getting popped all the time in the NFL and MLB, including stars.

If you start with the premise that "they're all doping" and not getting caught is just an intelligence test then clearly the FIFA guys are generally doing it smarter.

Andres wrote:

I think this thread belongs in the LR

It a thread about doping in endurance sport. You realize that Craig Alexander's main sport was soccer before whe went on to 3x Kona including his 8:04. Talk to him about how he felt he developed as an athlete in that sport. Almost no athletes come from a cycling background (other than maybe in Belgium). Same deal with Contador. Soccer player first and also did track. I am assume you have played a 120 minute game and still disagree that a doped dude with 60% hematocrit has no advantage in the 115th minute? If it worked for Bjarne Riis on a 46K stage 9 to Sestriere in 1996 (while at 60%) so why don't we think it works in soccer.

Right around the time our man Bjarne Riis was dominatinig at LeTour etc with 60% hematocrit. on the other side of Sestriere in Torino, you had Juventus making a big run at success:

Old article from 2004

https://www.independent.co.uk/...nineties-728710.html

It was a remarkable era, but now the brilliance of that team and their dominance has been seriously questioned, and there are many in Italy who are asking whether it was all too good to be true. That's certainly what the Italian courts think. Last Friday in Turin's Palazzo di Giustizia, Judge Giuseppe Casalbore sentenced Agricola to 22 months in jail for supplying Juventus players with performance-enhancing drugs, including the banned blood-boosting hormone erythropoietin (EPO), between 1994 and 1998. Agricola was also barred from practising medicine for 22 months and fined €2,000 (£1,390).

We are talking the exact years when Lance was fight Cancer and then "coming back" on the same program as what you see in the quote above. So if it worked for Juventus then, do we really think that in an endurance sport where they don't test for this, everyone is back on bread and water? Same thing with NHL. Sometimes those guys play 5 or 6 periods in the playoffs.

I can't remember the particular game or player (because honestly I've watched almost all of them) but the commentator said something to the effect of:

"He was a decent player, and then, surprisingly, because there is no real competition there, he went to play in China for a year or two, and now he is a fantastic player and a regular starter on his National team."


And this is one of the most recent knock-out games, and was not the Japanese team. Sounds to me like the commentator suspects doping.

The soccer player's can't be doping. The IOC cleared most of the Russian athletes...

Pfft. Don't you know cycling is the dirty sport, silly?

Cycling is the dirtiest of the dirty (except for the top cyclist of course), and they're all dirty.

You are probably talking about Axel Witsel who plays for the Belgian national team while playing club soccer in China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Witsel

If him the comments are taken out of context since he has been a regular on the national team since 2008.