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Re: IM FL Coverage [Mulen] [ In reply to ]
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Mulen wrote:
Lasse . looks like the tracker was f**ked ... better now. Magnus has this one, 7h35m ??

Edit: 5 mins to RvB should be enough

Edit II: Unbelievable IM does not has this on the "Live" circuit. The business case for this is dying then ... IMFL is a big fish


lassekk wrote:
So magnus not able to make a gap going into t2.
Is this kind of course simply too easy for good bike riders?

Insane foot race with 5 pol in t2 together, lets see who overbiked!

I guess magnus not creating a gap was just.him.hsving an off day given how poorly his run is going now.
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Re: IM FL Coverage [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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How about the women. Three started the run within 10 seconds of one another, and 11 miles in Lee is just half a minute ahead of Moench. McCauley looks safe in 3rd for now.

"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden
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Re: IM FL Coverage [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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lassekk wrote:
Mulen wrote:
Lasse . looks like the tracker was f**ked ... better now. Magnus has this one, 7h35m ??

Edit: 5 mins to RvB should be enough

Edit II: Unbelievable IM does not has this on the "Live" circuit. The business case for this is dying then ... IMFL is a big fish


lassekk wrote:
So magnus not able to make a gap going into t2.
Is this kind of course simply too easy for good bike riders?

Insane foot race with 5 pol in t2 together, lets see who overbiked!


I guess magnus not creating a gap was just.him.hsving an off day given how poorly his run is going now.

I think Ditlev has put it in validate mode.

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: IM FL Coverage [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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Hanson on pace for 2:30…hope he holds on..
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Re: IM FL Coverage [bobbystans1220] [ In reply to ]
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Well Hanson is coming back from the dead.... when everybody else except for RVB is dying.

The race looks like IM Portugal where everybody started running like crazy many on a 2 h 35 pace... until everybody dropped.

Today the bikers put on a show but have trouble running for dough
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Re: IM FL Coverage [kajet] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know anything at all about stepniak- does he have what it takes to bring this home?

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Re: IM FL Coverage [kajet] [ In reply to ]
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kajet wrote:
How about the women. Three started the run within 10 seconds of one another, and 11 miles in Lee is just half a minute ahead of Moench. McCauley looks safe in 3rd for now.

ah, spoke too soon! Skye has dropped India!

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Re: IM FL Coverage [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know anything at all about stepniak- does he have what it takes to bring this home?

Nobody knows. It's his second full distance race. Ran a 2:52 in Israel last year to finish 11th. The slot is all but certain at this point though, and that's what he came to Florida for.

"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden
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Re: IM FL Coverage [kajet] [ In reply to ]
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RvB winner. Well deserved - great racing and 7:34
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Re: IM FL Coverage [Mulen] [ In reply to ]
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IM Texas 2023: 1. Rudy von Berg; 2. Robert Wilkowiecki - best ever 140.6 time by a Pole, excluding Cozumel; 3. Matthew Marquardt
IM Florida 2023: 1. Rudy von Berg; 2. Kacper Stepniak - best ever 140.6 time by a Pole, excluding Cozumel; 3. Matthew Marquardt

I think I see a pattern here.

"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden
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Re: IM FL Coverage [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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Hanson you magnificent bastard - 2:34 flat! I was really hoping he'd make the podium but 4th is a result all things considered.

no kona slot, mind you...

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Re: IM FL Coverage [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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Hanson you magnificent bastard - 2:34 flat! I was really hoping he'd make the podium but 4th is a result all things considered.
no kona slot, mind you...
Impressive runs (but see below) by both Hanson and Moench (latter a superbly even paced 2:54). RvB not slouching around with a 2:38 either - good PTO points to take him well above Laidlow, if anyone cares.
Wurf Strava suggests run 800m short(ish). https://www.strava.com/pros/430673?hl=en-GB
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Re: IM FL Coverage [Ajax Bay] [ In reply to ]
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. RvB not slouching around with a 2:38 either - good PTO points to take him well above Laidlow, if anyone cares.
Wurf Strava suggests run 800m short(ish). https://www.strava.com/pros/430673?hl=en-GB



I think he may even reach the 8th spot depending on the points allocated which should be around 85
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Re: IM FL Coverage [Ajax Bay] [ In reply to ]
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Ajax Bay wrote:
iron_mike wrote:
Hanson you magnificent bastard - 2:34 flat! I was really hoping he'd make the podium but 4th is a result all things considered.
no kona slot, mind you...
Impressive runs (but see below) by both Hanson and Moench (latter a superbly even paced 2:54). RvB not slouching around with a 2:38 either - good PTO points to take him well above Laidlow, if anyone cares.
Wurf Strava suggests run 800m short(ish). https://www.strava.com/pros/430673?hl=en-GB

I believe that was Wurf’s fastest IM run yet.

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: IM FL Coverage [JackStraw13] [ In reply to ]
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Ajax Bay wrote:
iron_mike wrote:
Hanson you magnificent bastard - 2:34 flat! I was really hoping he'd make the podium but 4th is a result all things considered.
no kona slot, mind you...
Impressive runs (but see below) by both Hanson and Moench (latter a superbly even paced 2:54). RvB not slouching around with a 2:38 either - good PTO points to take him well above Laidlow, if anyone cares.
Wurf Strava suggests run 800m short(ish). https://www.strava.com/pros/430673?hl=en-GB


I believe that was Wurf’s fastest IM run yet.

Yep. But not being an IM specialist is killing him. Can't come out of the water 24th overall and count on catching up with the leader when they will simply ride away from you in a draft legal pack.
I love Cam but the dude is in a no man's land.

Next races on the schedule: none at the moment
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Re: IM FL Coverage [Ajax Bay] [ In reply to ]
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Ajax Bay wrote:
Wurf Strava suggests run 800m short(ish). https://www.strava.com/pros/430673?hl=en-GB


His Garmin records the starting point along the beachfront, which was 1.2km from T2. I’d assume he just grabbed his watch and started running before GPS was connected, or else started running without pressing the start button. And for some reason it ends along the beachfront as well, 800m from the finish line. I don’t know how to explain that, other than maybe his battery dying.

I recorded the run as 42.12 kilometres. Some of my flybys have a little bit more, some a little bit less. It might have been a tiny bit short, but nowhere even remotely close to 800m.
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Re: IM FL Coverage [Ajax Bay] [ In reply to ]
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Ajax Bay wrote:
Wurf Strava suggests run 800m short(ish). https://www.strava.com/pros/430673?hl=en-GB

Harry Palmer had it at 26.24 miles.
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Re: IM FL Coverage [alex_korr] [ In reply to ]
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JackStraw13 wrote:
I believe that was Wurf’s fastest IM run yet.


Yep. But not being an IM specialist is killing him. Can't come out of the water 24th overall and count on catching up with the leader when they will simply ride away from you in a draft legal pack.
I love Cam but the dude is in a no man's land.

it's funny - i wonder if he's also starting to experience the same problems as lionel. during a race like this i keep waiting for him to rocket to the front of the bike, but he never did. is he getting slower? is everyone else getting faster? is he changing his strategy? i can't really believe that legal drafting is so much more of an issue now than it was 5 years ago.

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Re: IM FL Coverage [jcgiraSHT] [ In reply to ]
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Ajax Bay wrote:
. RvB not slouching around with a 2:38 either - good PTO points to take him well above Laidlow, if anyone cares.
I think he may even reach the 8th spot depending on the points allocated which should be around 85
My mental arithmetic estimate was over 86 points which would indeed displace Long from #8 spot. Best male USA long distance athlete
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Re: IM FL Coverage [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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I believe that was Wurf’s fastest IM run yet.


Yep. But not being an IM specialist is killing him. Can't come out of the water 24th overall and count on catching up with the leader when they will simply ride away from you in a draft legal pack.
I love Cam but the dude is in a no man's land.


it's funny - i wonder if he's also starting to experience the same problems as lionel. during a race like this i keep waiting for him to rocket to the front of the bike, but he never did. is he getting slower? is everyone else getting faster? is he changing his strategy? i can't really believe that legal drafting is so much more of an issue now than it was 5 years ago.

I follow him on Strava and it doesn't look like he has been swimming this year as much as he should be.
Not sure if the swim yesterday was rough - if it was like last year it would have put him at a serious disadvantage.
Also he did a 100+ mile ride/24 mile run (6:08 pace) in 1 day 2 weeks ago here in Santa Monica - I am not so sure that he can recover from that.

Next races on the schedule: none at the moment
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Re: IM FL Coverage [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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alex_korr wrote:
JackStraw13 wrote:

I believe that was Wurf’s fastest IM run yet.


Yep. But not being an IM specialist is killing him. Can't come out of the water 24th overall and count on catching up with the leader when they will simply ride away from you in a draft legal pack.
I love Cam but the dude is in a no man's land.


it's funny - i wonder if he's also starting to experience the same problems as lionel. during a race like this i keep waiting for him to rocket to the front of the bike, but he never did. is he getting slower? is everyone else getting faster? is he changing his strategy? i can't really believe that legal drafting is so much more of an issue now than it was 5 years ago.

Everyone is just getting faster. The attention to detail with regards to aero and carb intake has taken the bike to the next level.

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: IM FL Coverage [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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I think there are more guys who "fill the gaps" now more than ever; which makes "legal" draft trains even more important than ever vs the "uber" biker(s).

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Re: IM FL Coverage [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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it's funny - i wonder if he's also starting to experience the same problems as lionel. during a race like this i keep waiting for him to rocket to the front of the bike, but he never did. is he getting slower? is everyone else getting faster?//

I think a lot of it is that his bike prowess in triathlon has been way too inflated, and from day 1. No one argues that he isn't a super strong pro cyclist, just like all the other ones that entered our sport to give it a go professionally. But I think too many expectations were put on him, and folks didnt handicap the fact that he is not a strong swimmer, and he is not a long distance time trialer. Both of which were specialities of the guys he came over to race..


He had a good first Kona and was able to ride up to the guys off the front, and set a new record in the process for the bike. But even then, he only put a minute or two on the contenders, so hardly a soul crushing bike. Then after that race, he really never made it to the front again, with the likes of Jan, Ali, and a few others pretty much even riding him off the front. Then the new younger crop of Kona athletes came to play, and his records and any advantage on the bike evaporated. In the past few years he loses time on the bike in the really big races with all the best guys there, and after losing a good amount in the swim too, it is pretty much a killer. His run is basically a Lucy type run(comparably) but he doesnt get to start it minutes off the front like she does, so he just battles for the very minor places just inside the top 10.


So I think two things have happened besides too high expectations, the riders have gotten faster with the likes of Ditlev, Laidlow, Ali, Jan, and all the others that now peak in and stay in that front bike group. He has not gotten faster, and the swim really does take a bit out of his ride, and not just because he doesnt get to ride in the legal groups. He does have the same problem as Lionel and Sam, only they both ride as well he does, and they both run faster too.


I think his bite at the apple for our sport is now over for him, not that he cannot go and do some minor races and do quite well. The competition has gotten faster and he is aging out of his prime, not much can be done about either of those things. I will say however, he was certainly the best of the pro cyclist that ever came over and went head to head with our best. He can hold his head up high and know he made an impact in the races. He is a hell of an athlete, and proved that in many different sports. And I love his attitude, he really seems to have a lot of fun traveling the world and taking on the established races. There was no failure in his switch over, he can be proud of what he accomplished in such a short amount of time..One of those I wonder how far he could have gone if Triathlon was his main sport all along..
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Re: IM FL Coverage [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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iron_mike wrote:
alex_korr wrote:
JackStraw13 wrote:

I believe that was Wurf’s fastest IM run yet.


Yep. But not being an IM specialist is killing him. Can't come out of the water 24th overall and count on catching up with the leader when they will simply ride away from you in a draft legal pack.
I love Cam but the dude is in a no man's land.


it's funny - i wonder if he's also starting to experience the same problems as lionel. during a race like this i keep waiting for him to rocket to the front of the bike, but he never did. is he getting slower? is everyone else getting faster? is he changing his strategy? i can't really believe that legal drafting is so much more of an issue now than it was 5 years ago.

Well, he's 40. So he's getting slower.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: IM FL Coverage [friskyDingo] [ In reply to ]
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Big miss for IM on this one, with a lot of good pros flocking to this race. Looked like great races yesterday. This is why our sport struggles getting mainstream coverage -- even the high caliber races can't get a live stream.
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