Did you actually reed one of the many reviews Jordan wrote overvthe last several years? A lot of them were on products he was mot sponsored by and he wrote about as objective as possible. I personally don't believe that the released statement is the whole truth behind this situation, but more a way that Jordan might had to agree on because the risk of going to court is long and very expensive. Money plays an important role and i think the risk on losing money on an endless lawsuit is not a very nice picture for the future. So he might just have to agree on this statement and swallow the pill or risking a long road in court.

Personally, i have asked Jordan for some help the last weeks with my Diamondback / Zipp project and can only say that he reacted most of the time faster then either of the companies customer service and was of great help.

Both Dimond and Jordan probably wish they could set the clock back in time and maybe both made decisions based on emotion and too fast, but i don't think there is any reason to burn this guy down the way is done here.

J.

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So he might have bad mouthed a product to get out of the contract for financial gain also. It's what's stated in the settlement and with no one saying otherwise, based on the evidence and if he wants any credibility as a person and supposed expert probably easier to believe.

just the 2 cents from a current sponsor's point of view:

our company has been involved with Jordan Rapp for almost 10 years. even though we were not his sponsor over all those years, we have kept a very close and cordial relationship.
this year, we had the opportunity to include Jordan into Team Kiwami and there was not much hesitation.
for us, his professionalism, athleticism and courtesy are difficult to match.
we are regularly in touch with a number of other tri pros: very few can come close, unfortunately.

the recent incident is of course regrettable but in the big picture, we cannot but express our most sincere gratitude to Jordan's ambassadorship.

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Why, why, WHY in the world do you bother responding to Dave??? He is the most narcissistic individual ever witnessed. He won't actually consider what you've written.

But I get it (even though Dave doesn't) - you're really responding to educate other readers.

I strive to be the best at anything I do. :)

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What was published/you read was NOT a settlement ageeement. There was a private settlement agreement with MANY terms and conditions, one of which was the statement that was published. You may or may not care but there is a big difference.

Agree totally and stand by what I stated.

So he might have bad mouthed a product to get out of the contract for financial gain also. It's what's stated in the settlement and with no one saying otherwise, based on the evidence and if he wants any credibility as a person and supposed expert probably easier to believe.

He could have fought it if he thought he was in the right and he chose to agree to those terms and put out that statement. I understand there would have been a lot of behind the scenes terms but based on what shallow evidence he provided and the way he went about things that's my belief. You are entitled to yours.

Actually you don't stand by what you say. You are posting anonymously and with an agenda.

If you want to trawl my posts you can find my full name and why I have interest. How the hell am I to know who ajthomas is??? Based on the settlement I am calling it the way I think it is. Everyone is feely voicing there opinion and I'm voicing mine simple as that.

Seems you have the exact opposite agenda/opinion to mine and maybe why you started this thread. You want to believe Rapp is a saint and I see him a a villain. Why am I indifferent apart from opinions to you and you feel you can pass judgement??? I happen to agree with niccolo.

I'm no saint. But I'd also like to think I'm not a villain. Mostly I'd say that I'm simply an actual real person. With plenty of flaws. And, hopefully, some redeeming qualities as well. I realize that such considerations are not in vogue online. Carry on...

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I now know what the Aero needs on here feel like when people like me try to enter into their realm. I give up.

I wonder why finman does not get the love on ST since he said he was sorry. :)

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Does anyone actually hate finman? I thought it was more of an ongoing joke / wtf thing than anything else.

Julie miller on the other hand, but she's never apologized and unlike lance, she wasn't just playing the game the way everyone else did.

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How about if Kevin Moats said he was sorry for doping and drafting? :)

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I'm not going through every single hypothetical. Moats hasn't shown any sign of remorse or acknowledgement that what he did was wrong, so why consider what our perception of him would be if he did?

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Well said. I always find it funny that people still have this view that the world is made up of villains and saints. The world is filled with individuals that have to make up very complex decisions in life every day and at times they make the wrong decision. There are individuals that break that mold and are true villains but I would not classify you as one. I would not classify Miller or Armstrong as villains either but man are they at another level on the scale. lol.

The world and individuals are not just that simple sorry.

I think this was a complex situation that if you had to do again might do differently but I would not classify you as a villain nor a saint but an individual.

I am happy that you were able to move on and focus on your family and other endeavors.

at a certain point in every hot thread 2 things happen:

1. those with fertile minds, who can hold multiple paradoxical thoughts in them, who agree to live in a world where big ideas almost always exist in tension, exit the discussion in frustration because of those who can't see outside of their narrow viewports.

2. those with narrow viewports become more and more strident and dominate the thread, unconcerned by the damage caused by the shrapnel flying off their posts.

i think we've reached that point in the thread, and therefore i'm going to close it down soon. those with last licks to get in, the bar is closing, last call.

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My first post on this thread. The entire issue is unfortunate. Business disputes happen....even among the best of friends. Both sides made mistakes and probably wish they could have made a different decision(s). Hopefully, both sides learned some life/business lessons and can provide positive contributions going forward. Both sides have been positive contributors to the sport/industry....agree, time to move on.