Come on now, is that really possible? Somebody's got to make a jump around the 4000' mark, it'd be too hard not to. I'm surprised Palomar is even open. Is it definitely open? I havn't been able to get off this here mountain range since Monday, all highways closed.

Valley Center / Palomar Mtn
Chains required above 4,500' on Palomar Mtn
Lake Wohlford--City of Escondido section-closed--mud and debris-potential rock slides
Ivy Dell dip closed--flooding
Cole Grade Road closed--flooding

http://www.sdcdpw.org/#ROAD

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"It rises just about 4000' vertically from its start at about 1200' above sea level"

http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/features/palomar.html

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That means at that chains are required on the road, where we are riding, currently as of today.

Warm weather all week should melt it.

remember that you are at a higher elevation, Palomar should be clear by Monday.

<< Somebody's got to make a jump around the 4000' mark, it'd be too hard not to.

well since some of us racing a half marathon the day before, who knows what will be left in the legs. The thing about climbs like Palomar, you have to set your own tempo going up. It hurts almost as much to go up slower than you are used to as it does to go hard. So everyone will have to just go there own speed up Palomar and then we regroup at Mother's Cafe for hot chocolate at the top. Come prepared for cold weather though. Coming down will still be cold with the windchill. Air temp will probably be about 50 degrees on the mountain, plus the windchill.

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Professional Running, Cycling and Multisport Coaching, F.I.S.T. Certified
http://www.tripower.org

I thought Monday was the 17th!

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thanks

sorry, couldn't help it

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Did someone check conditions of the Mt?

Is the ride still going on? If so, I'll probably be coming down with a couple of guys.

Who's showing up??

I'm envious. You guys have fun. Don't worry about the rest of us. As if!

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(That which is said in Latin sounds profound)

I'll be there, and Mike, be nice to see you there as well.

There are probably others coming, Mike has more info on that.

Weather looks very good, high of 70 in the afternoon on the mountain, high 50's for most of the ride in the AM, and sunny:

http://www.wunderground.com/...Forecast?query=92060

I might cruise. Does anybody know what traffic is like on the 5 at that time. I'm not used to being on those freeways on a weekday at those times.

Its a holiday for many, so the 15 will likely be smooth all day

Outside of government employees and banks, how many of you have the day off? Nobody, but me, at my work does.

I'll be there, Pooks will be there, did anyone check with Mike Byrd? He hasn't chimed in so I assume he has to work. Jaylew, make sure you look at the map at the top of this thread, we aren't starting at the base of Palomar, make sure you go to the right starting point in Escondido. Sojo, if you are coming from Arrowhead, you'd be better off coming down the 215 to the 15 to Escondido. Email me if you need specific directions. Of course anyone else is welcome to show up if they want. We'll have a couple of regrouping stops along the way.

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Professional Running, Cycling and Multisport Coaching, F.I.S.T. Certified
http://www.tripower.org

Plumb-fast Mike wrote: Of course anyone else is welcome to show up if they want.

I checked with the airlines, and can't get a flight over there and back for less than half a grand, or I'd be there...but, that's my entire race entry fee pool for the year. I'd want to show you guys just how much wheezing and groaning an old man can put out while actually surviving the climb. Seriously, though, it makes me want to go up to the NC mountains and spend some time on those 7-14 mile climbs. Nothing seems to work wonders for all-around riding like long climbs with other riders. Have a blast!

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(That which is said in Latin sounds profound)

We are lucky with some uncommonly warm weather on the mountain tomorrow:

In the 50's to 60's: http://www.weather.com/...Hour=6&begDay=17

Mike, I just figured out why you said to take the "15 instead". I didn't intend to type 5 in my previous post, the 5 is way out of my way. I'm struggling to figure out how long it'll take me to get down there. I've driven there on Thanksgiving, and traffic was heavy. I drove out there on Christmas Eve, I think, and it was really light. Now HWY 18 is closed due to undermining of the road and slides, and I have to take an alternate route that I'm not familiar with, the 330, to the 30, to the 10, to the 215, over to the 15. I see you've been elected for something, though I'm not sure what, so it's in my best interest to go down there and make friends tommorrow. Don't wait up for me if I'm late, I'll just go to the base of the hill and wait for you guys if things get crazy on the freeways. Will you be riding the entire hill, like past both Albertos, or Humbertos or whateverbertos taco shops, or are you coming in the backside and just doing that last ~ 7 mile section of Palomar?

Mike indicated that the ride is a 50 miler, 3.5 hours of actual ride time with the mountain, so probably 4 hours total with stops at the top and the base.

215 merges into the 15 when heading south.

we'll be doing the entire climb, 11.4 miles+/-. We'll start with the Lake Wohlford climb right off the bat, then down past Harrah's Casino to the bottom of Palomar (the taco shop). We'll probably regroup there before we start up Palomar. If we start the ride at 9:30, we'll probably get to the bottom of Palomar at 10:30 or so.

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Mike Plumb, TriPower MultiSports
Professional Running, Cycling and Multisport Coaching, F.I.S.T. Certified
http://www.tripower.org

Don't know if any of you guys are still at home, but if so, don't wait up for me, I got up toooo late.

Mike,

I was in Mammoth this weekend getting in on the great snow up there. I'll be there on the 30th for sure.

Mike

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Mike, you and Joe missed a great ride. The weather was awesome if not a little too hot. It was cool gettting a chance to meet Gary, Ashburn, and Pooks(though I didn't know it was him until afterwards) from the board. That really is an awesome climb! So much for it being an easy training ride. Right out of the gate we did another climb(I don't remember what it was called) and Plumb and Tingley start hammering. What ever happened to a warmup, guys? I'm definitely glad I went down as it showed how much I've improved. I went up Palomar about 10 minutes faster than last year on less effort than last year

Jason,

I'm pretty sure the climb you are referring to is Lake Wohlford. Probably pretty tough to start from the dog park. We usually start about 7-10 miles further down the road and get a good warm up.

I totally expect Plumb and Gary to kill Palomar on the 30th. I'm hoping another friend comes down from LA to ride with Pooks and me. Hopefully he doesn't bring his girl because she'll probably beat us too....

let's see, two weeks to get in shape...I think it can be done!

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600 seconds....

No, no, no....whatever you do, put the PowerCranks on as soon as you get them. Two weeks will be plenty of time for you to get used to them!! ;)

Mike

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