Dont know a ton about them, although I do know this was a planned thing. A friend of mine got a job for them as a manufacturing engineer a few months ago, and he mentioned something about a more affordable wheelset on the way. Also, given they're released disc only, I suspect this is an early example of decreased rim prices due to disc only wheels. So much easier to design and manufacture wheels without a brake track.

Looks pretty sweet. First thought is these are going to cannibalize the SES wheelsets. Also looks like they are road focused wheels, so anything off tarmac is still going to be an AR.

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They're cheaper because they are hookless (that makes them easier to manufacture even more than no brake track), so only tubless tires and only ones that are approved for hookless (conti 5000s aren't).

They look good to me!

We just published a full feature on these wheels, including our initial ride impressions:

https://www.slowtwitch.com/...ion_Series_7633.html

There's a different approved list than for the ARs...5000TLs in 25mm are ok (not 28s though)

Good catch. Thx

Just wanted to chime in here. Yes, hookless is less expensive to manufacture than hooked, but this is not the primary reason for why we have so widely adopted hookless beads. The primary reason is that hookless allows us to manufacture the rim's bead seat diameter with more precision. This results in a more reliable and consistent tubeless setup.

I'm hoping to see an XC wheelset for those of us that prefer XTERRA

I really enjoyed the review article on Slowtwitch – it helped clear up a lot of the questions I had! I am excited about these wheels... As I shift from rim-brake to disc (and I will be rim-brake for several years to come unless I win the lottery), I know I'll eventually get a nice set of wheels, and these are a game changer. If I'm fortunate enough to be able to get SES series, I will (the lower weight and shallower front than rear make a difference for me). But wow, these look great. Also: Looks like ENVE might soon release their own ENVE-endorsed, ENVE-branded tire? Likely a collaboration with...? hmmm...

Anyway, big thanks to Greg Kopecky for the review – Slowtwtich is the first and only site I've seen today with a hands-on review!

https://singletrackworld.com/...usa-carbon-wheelset/

Singletrack had an article yesterday too - focussed on the the MTB wheels obvs as they're an MTB site.

That is a super attractive price point. I am still on rim brakes for the road, but a gravel version would be something I would definitely have to add to my shopping cart.

Glad you enjoyed it! Can't comment on the tires just yet, unfortunately :) Working to resolve the inflation / air retention issue quickly... I'm hoping to post an update later today if my updated setup held air overnight...

UPDATE: It was the tire. I posted an update in the article.

Thanks for the detailed review - nice read! How would you compare them to SES 5.6s with comparable hubs?

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I haven't ridden the SES 5.6, so I can't comment beyond the things I mentioned about them in the article (i.e. differences in aero performance, rim shape, inner rim width, tire compatibility, etc). The biggest thing that will or should drive someone's decision between the any of the SES models and the Foundations is price, and whether you want to run tubeless tires.

Have to run tubeless, you mean. They both accept tubeless.

Sorta-kinda. You can technically run inner tubes on both wheels, too. On the hookless rim (Foundation series), you're just putting a tube into a tubeless-intended tire.

Being annoyingly pedantic, but....

Your quote was "tubeless tires," not tubes. I would not run non-TL-ready tires on any hookless rim. Therefore - at least for my comfort level - going with Foundation is a firm commitment to TL-ready tires. While SES 5.6 provides choice in tire construction.

I understand that. I was giving that person the benefit of the doubt for being able to understand the situation. Perhaps I was not specific enough. What I was really meaning to say was that if you're all-in on tubeless, go for the new Foundation wheels. They're less costly and work well. If you're not totally sure on tubeless, the 5.6 is probably better. Yes, you can technically run a tube in the Foundations, too, but that's sort of missing the point of the product, and you're adding weight (because many tubeless-ready tires area heavier than traditional clinchers). Fair?

Yup!

Supposed to be available with campy freehub, but not listed as an option on the Enve website?

Anyone have more time on these wheels? I'm looking for an all around modern disc wheel set these have made the short list as have the new Zipps and maybe Hunts. Hunts might be little too narrow.

Thanks

Have you considered Reynolds wheels?

I hadn't but that doesn't mean I wouldn't consider them.

I am in the same boat but am currently leaning towards Fast Foward Tyro's just due to the pricing in the UK. The thing issue I would note with the Hunts is that the free hubs are unusually loud. Its a personal thing but I found them irritatingly loud which has also been noted by independent testers e.g. https://intheknowcycling.com/...set-for-the-money-2/ . A quick google confirms this is a common complaint and there is no easy fix so it is something to keep in mind. Its not a performance issue and I have some DT Swiss hubs that buzz pretty loudly but there is a threshold for the level of noise I am will to tolerate on longer rides.