why not the felt ia advanced ultegra? seems reasonably priced @ $5500, and comes with trp hydro's

Yea that's an option but pretty high price for mech shifting. I slightly updated my title. P series di2 is a good value prop I think for $6800

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you can have a look at the ribble ultra tri disc also; possibly low re-sale value, though

 

The Argon 117 is a good bike. It's within a few watts of their top bike, per their testing

The cable on the front is really annoying from a look perspective, but performance penalty is minimal

You can get a pro tier bike used for that price if you look around patiently. I have a 2019 Felt IA built up for under $5k on used parts

I have been looking! But these shiny new 12 speeds keep pulling my interest

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looking at selling my QR PRsix2 disc bike. size 52. PM for more details if interested.

I have a custom bike w/ rim brake front and cable pull disc on the back (for aerodynamics). I don't mind the cable disc at all, I think it has several advantages vs the hydraulic. Then again, I'm a luddite that doesn't understand why tri bikes ever shifted to disc brakes in the first place, so probably not the best source for opinions on the matter.

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So the question will be do you want to go all in on the fastest bike you can afford, or the subjectively best bike you can afford. Mech shifting will lose a couple watts with bits of exposed cable, but that money can be put into a better cockpit/frame/wheels. 12 speed is cool but is it actually any faster than 11speed Di2?

Honestly for TT/Tri bikes you're almost always better off getting a frame and building it up yourself. You can make the cockpit what you want and you almost always have to upgrade the wheels on complete TT bikes if you want to be competitive.

Definitely looking for best value but also don't want an ugly bike!

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Why not buy a P-Series or QR frameset and build something?

Yes that is an option. Not sure how this post would have indicated it wouldn't be

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Well it was never specifically mentioned.

I ride a P-Series and wish I would have just built it up from the frameset, considering all the stock parts I replaced. The TRP hydraulic brakes are great but I replaced the brake levers/shifters with Dura-Ace. The TRP levels were horrible. Building from the frameset up would also allow you to route the front brake cable inside the fork and steerer tube making it look a little cleaner and marginally faster.

Can you do in fork routing with the older frame? I know the new ones come like that similar to the soloist.
Also, bummer on the TRP brakes. They are half the price; I wonder how the Riderever brakes do with the integrated hole for di2 buttons.

Back of the napkin math puts a di2 build would cost 6k with Premier Tactical wheelset
edit: well no, forgot to include the buttons and the crankset.

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I'm not sure, but mine is a 2020 P-Series with the disc brakes/Di2 and it can be routed.

That's really cool, and opens up a bigger resale market.
This is an example of the 2020 I've seen built up

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Mid-level is nearly $7k? Phew!

EXACTLY. I was thinking 3-4k

I bought an Orbea Ordu back in April and I absolutely love it. I got the M30iLTD. Retails for about 9.7K CDN so high end of your price range in USD.

The shifting is great for being 105 and it is very fast. My only caution would be that it “fits” very narrow.
I had a Speed Concept before and I felt slightly more comfortable on it having wider shoulders than most, but I got my fit dialed in and am use to it now. I am going 3-5 km/h faster at same wattage than the Trek.

Hope this helps. I am super happy with my purchase.

How much does yours weigh and wheel choice?
And what's your top tube storage solution


Also, there's really "just" a $500 difference between the cockpit I want on a p series vs the Ordu

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Without bottles, computer etc. I believe it’s about 17-18 pounds.
I don’t use gels or blocks for nutrition (all liquid) so it’s not a huge deal for me to have top tube storage. The storage on the underside of the frame is a little small to me. But I run tubeless and have a big bag of sealant in there. I need to find a smaller solution for that.
It’s a very adjustable bike up front too. The bars can be flipped up or down depending how aggressive you went to get.

Sorry. Forgot. Wheels are Vision 55’s

Oh wow. Good price too

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I assume even a 2020 p5 disc would be a faster bike than any new frame listed?

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