Hmmm.
Physical evidence?
Reason to lie?
Probable cause?

This looks more like a joke than court case.

Not news, speculation.

No smoke without fire. Lance is on something, like the rest of them. Open your eyes you blind fools. Whether he gets caught is another question.

I would seem to me that if the substance was on the list of banned substances, and tested for, Wouldn't it show up in those tests?

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under-trained and over-tapered. . . .yet still hopeful . . . does that make me an optimist or a masochist?

Strike 2?

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there's an old saying in politics....be nice to the people around you on your way up because you're going to need them on your way down.

2 independent former staffers accusing him of doping doesn't bode well.

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"A society is defined not only by what it creates, but by what it refuses to destroy."
John Sawhill

Who is the fool? The one that claims to know something as fact when all he has is his pathetic gossip, or the one who waits until there is substantial proof, and until such time, claims to be uncertain?

If you listen to interviews with Lance he nevers says he doesn't dope. He says "I have never tested positive for a banned substance" and then goes on about how he is the most tested athlete on the planet. I am in no position to pass judgement on wether he dopes or not, and truthfully I don't think I care any more. But numerous people on this board and other places have repeatably said everyone does or you can't be competitive. Period.

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Jim

**Note above poster works for a retailer selling bikes and related gear*

The lawyer in me is thinking about the strategy implications for Mr. Anderson's pending litigation with Lance. As I read the article, Lance sued Mr. Anderson first, claiming some sort of psuedo-extortion, and Mr. Anderson counter-sued claiming breach of an email contract.

Dropping this bomb in an otherwise innocuous pleading certainly suggests a scorched-earth policy. (I can only guess that the pleading uses this info. to claim motive for Lance to fire/screw over Anderson. That argument assumes that Lance would know that Anderson knew about the Andro)

Normally I'd think Anderson is upping the stakes in looking for a settlement. However, considering how LA went after the guy who wrote the book and the Irish lass who made the claims in that book, throwing this out there probably means that any chance of a settlement just flew out the window.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Interesting. I'll continue in my child-like hope this is just sour grapes and Lance is clean. One of my favorite Lance quotes:

"Everybody wants to know what I'm on. What am I on? I'm on my bike busting my ass six hours a day. What are you on?"

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What a drag it is getting old. -- Stones

Knowing that some part of the world are already on April 1st date, and since this has not transpired on cyclingnews.com, it may somply be a prank.

Francois in Montreal

the San Francisco Chronicle fell for it.



http://www.sfgate.com/...ports/s121327S91.DTL

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"A society is defined not only by what it creates, but by what it refuses to destroy."
John Sawhill

I compare drug use in sports like cycling and baseball to drug use in Mr. Universe....if everyone is doing it is it really cheating? If the playing field is level and everyone has access to the drugs then the best guys are still going to win.

I really feel sorry for the occasional sacrificial lamb like Tyler Hamilton who gets tossed to the wolves so that the powers that be in charge of things can pretend that they are on top of the problem and weeding out the cheaters.

If you piss off the wrong official at the wrong race your number might be up.

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"A society is defined not only by what it creates, but by what it refuses to destroy."
John Sawhill

I now know why triathletes are so special, they are all f#*ing clairvoyants.

Free your mind and the rest will follow...

it's on cyclingnews. i don't think it's a joke.

Last time I checked we don't have to prove he's innocent, you have to prove he's guilty.

But since you asked, how many random drug tests does a person have to pass to be considered clean. Oh wait, I forgot...he has access to drugs that don't show up...the UCI is covering for him...blah...blah...blah.

Chris

Hey genius, where did I state my belief that he was NOT doing drugs? It is ok to say you just don't know until there is enough substance to say either way.

Ya know, who really cares? I could give a shit! Let them all cheat, make it a test of who has the best drugs. Ironically, The Discovery Channel (Lance's new team sponsor) ran a program last week about chemist working for the WADA. Interestingly, one molecule here or there makes the difference between a positive and a "clean sample".

Maybe we should have thread that follows, "I don't know we'll wait and see." At least it would show a bit more superior discretion than recklessly talking out of ones rearend about some opinion based on tittle-tattle. Wait until more specifics comes out akin to Richard Vireque, David Millar, and maybe even Tyler, before you claim you know something you don't.

Thats a myth and sematics. He has stated that he has never doped. He may well be lying, but somehow the myth exists that he dances around the subject. Read his books he categorically denies taking performance enhancing drugs.



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