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Wait how do I make my subject post pink?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...IQA9dYhnQ_story.html

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Here we go...

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..and I just finished my popcorn. Guess i should get some more.

All that can really be inferred is that they could not find sufficient proof that federal laws had been violated.
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How many [hundreds of?] millions of dollars have been pissed away trying to take Lance down?

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leave lance alone...wahhhh

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Took over 8 mins for this to hit ST. C'mon peoplez... Quit slackin'.

Later!

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Re: Lance is Clean [TravisT] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, seriously? I haven't been following this very closely but every time I looked it seemed that he was doomed.

What happened?
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Re: Lance is Clean [matto] [ In reply to ]
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matto wrote:
Wow, seriously? I haven't been following this very closely but every time I looked it seemed that he was doomed.

What happened?

I always thought the investigation was a stretch, because not only did they need to prove doping, they needed to prove systematic team-funded doping, which in turn defrauded the US Postal Service (at least that is how I read it). LOTS of dots to connect to make an air-tight case.

Wonder now what happens with all the grand jury transcripts?
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Re: Lance is Clean [TravisT] [ In reply to ]
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It was widely reported that Lance Armstrong expressed his feelings to the chief investigator after the close of the investigation with the following statement:

"Aw, nut to you!"
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Re: Lance is Clean [markg] [ In reply to ]
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markg wrote:
matto wrote:
Wow, seriously? I haven't been following this very closely but every time I looked it seemed that he was doomed.

What happened?


I always thought the investigation was a stretch, because not only did they need to prove doping, they needed to prove systematic team-funded doping, which in turn defrauded the US Postal Service (at least that is how I read it). LOTS of dots to connect to make an air-tight case.

Wonder now what happens with all the grand jury transcripts?

No case? Not public. At least that's how I understand the process...
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Re: Lance is Clean [matto] [ In reply to ]
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matto wrote:
Wow, seriously? I haven't been following this very closely but every time I looked it seemed that he was doomed.

What happened?

Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds looked like they were doomed too.

The only explanation for all three of those cases failing is that Jeff Novitzky is the worst investigator in the country.
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Quel wrote:
The only explanation for all three of those cases failing is that Jeff Novitzky is the worst investigator in the country.

Perhaps he needs something to improve his performance?

Suffer Well.
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Re: Lance is Clean [TravisT] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe he didn't dope.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Lance is Clean [TravisT] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think this means he is clean, they just dropped the charges.

I wouldn't be surprised at how many athletes use banned substances. If one cycles them properly the chances of getting caught are pretty slim since the substance would be out of one's system (or body levels would be back to normal) by the time the test is performed.

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Work on your sarcasm detector.

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Duffy wrote:
Maybe he didn't dope.

He already has been found that he doped.

The extent of his doping is the issue.

His whole career is a disgrace. He's a disgusting individual. I was really hoping for a jail term. I guess when you've got the money, power and influence all you have to do is scream cancer and you get off.

This is a sad state of affairs.

But so long as stupid americans still believe and so long as people shout cancer cancer cancer to raise awareness (because nobody knows that cancer is) then everything is all OK.

His whole glorification is more indicative of how naive and gullible the general population is, rather than a testament to anything he has done on or off the bike.
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Re: Lance is Clean [The Real Animal] [ In reply to ]
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Yes! The post I have been waiting for. You sir have succinctly summerized the issue. Thank you for your objective and informative thoughts on the subject.

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Given how easy it is to get an indictment under the federal system, the fact that they dropped the charges after all that work is at least noteworthy. You're right, it does not prove LA was clean. But, it does mean there was a serious hole in the govt's case.
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What sanctioned race did this occur in? :-)
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The Real Animal wrote:
Duffy wrote:
Maybe he didn't dope.


He already has been found that he doped.

The extent of his doping is the issue.

His whole career is a disgrace. He's a disgusting individual. I was really hoping for a jail term. I guess when you've got the money, power and influence all you have to do is scream cancer and you get off.

This is a sad state of affairs.

But so long as stupid americans still believe and so long as people shout cancer cancer cancer to raise awareness (because nobody knows that cancer is) then everything is all OK.

His whole glorification is more indicative of how naive and gullible the general population is, rather than a testament to anything he has done on or off the bike.

Incorrect
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ike wrote:
Given how easy it is to get an indictment under the federal system, the fact that they dropped the charges after all that work is at least noteworthy. You're right, it does not prove LA was clean. But, it does mean there was a serious hole in the govt's case.

And with alleged eyewitness accounts by Hamilton and (allegedly) Hincapie and others?? I guess it's not true that you can indict a ham sandwich after all
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He already has been found that he doped.

The extent of his doping is the issue.

His whole career is a disgrace. He's a disgusting individual. I was really hoping for a jail term. I guess when you've got the money, power and influence all you have to do is scream cancer and you get off.

This is a sad state of affairs.

But so long as stupid americans still believe and so long as people shout cancer cancer cancer to raise awareness (because nobody knows that cancer is) then everything is all OK.

His whole glorification is more indicative of how naive and gullible the general population is, rather than a testament to anything he has done on or off the bike.


Wow. I can only imagine how dramatic you get with real issues.
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Re: Lance is Clean [The Real Animal] [ In reply to ]
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The Real Animal wrote:
Duffy wrote:
Maybe he didn't dope.


He already has been found that he doped. By who? Jealous French people?

The extent of his doping is the issue.

His whole career is a disgrace. He's a disgusting individual. I was really hoping for a jail term. I guess when you've got the money, power and influence all you have to do is scream cancer and you get off.

This is a sad state of affairs.

But so long as stupid americans still believe and so long as people shout cancer cancer cancer to raise awareness (because nobody knows that cancer is) then everything is all OK.

His whole glorification is more indicative of how naive and gullible the general population is, rather than a testament to anything he has done on or off the bike.

Maybe he didn't dope.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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