the picture where he's being criticized for riding the yellow line is from St. George.

Great run stride though.

trineuropa wrote:

I'm glad that videos can show you that can't get much better than Alistair's biking. Wouldn't want something silly like speed or time to influence your opinion on someone's riding.

I hope you got similar videos during your aero testing so that you can visually decide which bike is great.

I think you need to either need to read the conversation you're jumping into or clue in to the context. Wr were talking about his bike fit, not whether his biking was bad or good or the great . He has a damn good fit: keeps great overall posture, has his hips rolled forward, stays quiet and still in his upper body, and relaxed as all fuck in the upper body...and(!) he keeps his damn head down like his life depends on it.

He's getting a ton for his watts -- he's a really efficient rider. But he's never going to make Lionel (up to 370) or even Kienle watts (up to 340). He maybe will put 325 into the pedals for the half iron bike leg. So basically, he may be more efficient than Lionel -- actually, he is much more efficient -- but he's not going to go faster on a pure watts course unless he acts like he did on Saturday. And that didn't even work out for him.

For the record I think Ali was just flat on this day and in combination with the heat and absolutely gassing himself to get to T2 before guys pushing 20 or 40 more watts than he was.

P.S. In comparison Vargas looked like he was basically on a really aggressive road bike. Head all up in the sky and shit.

The centre line in that picture looks like a 'hazard' area i.e. the lines are closely spaced. If there is no deemed hazard (like a bend ahead), the centre lines have a greater spacing. Rather than someone risk their neck with a tape measure on the road, you could just use the measuring feature on Google Earth :)

I must say I am absolutely loving how salty Brownlee has got some of you guys worked up.

He certainly has generated more interest than ever, we should be thankful for that.

I'm not convinced he'll stay at the LD stuff.

His interview before the race he already mentioned missing the hard man to man racing in ITU.
, and that was after two races.

Added to that the mixed relay in Tokyo, he may well be back at OD full time by next year.

I was a fan of the Brownlees until I watched the 2014 Abu Dhabi triathlon. They were literally pulling each other around the 100k bike course, in non-drafting race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2rueb4fyCU

I was a fan of the Brownlees until I watched the 2014 Abu Dhabi triathlon. They were literally pulling each other around the 100k bike course, in non-drafting race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2rueb4fyCU

From 1:03:30 to 1:05:40 its blatant. Stone them!

I'm in the camp that there are better ambassadors for the sport - Gomez, Mola, Kienle, Sanders, Murray (if you excuse his blowup against the officials at Hamburg 2016). But as someone said above, as long as he is winning he could give two shits about what people think about him.

As for his future in LD, in a recent interview when asked when he will be going to Kona he said maybe 2018 ... but maybe not. Will definitely need some training in the heat if Kona is on his radar.

I'm sorry but this is bullshit! He's a fine ambassador for the sport, he probably is the only proper household name there's been in Triathlon. He hasn't been arrested, bitten a competitor, caught using drugs, abused or assaulted an official or spectator (I could go on and on) as in other sports.

Other than Gomez who I'll give you is squeeky clean roll model professional I'd love to know how any of the others are better ambassadors for Triathlon?

AB and his brother do quite a bit for grassroots tri in U.K. Seem to have their own tri events plus do numerous appearances etc. plus he made the most news worldwide probably ever for triathlon in carrying his brother across finish line. Maybe he doesn't do enough for many of the elitist participants in tri here on slowtwitch but he has definitely done more for triathlon worldwide and in uk than probably all of those other athletes combined.

I'll bite. Better options for ambassadors: Kienle (great sense of humor, shows respect for other competitors, works hard), Sanders (obviously the whole remaking his life thing, winning through effort, relatable with se newbie mistakes, very open with all of his data and training, quirky in a good way), Duffy (burnt out and then found the passion again, goes all out, gives a good interview, can do road trips or xterra), Gwen (that run, always willing to give up her time to promote the sport, respectful and supportive of other athletes, has no obligation to do so but takes pulls on the bike)

I'll stop there, but I would argue that there are many better ambassadors for our sport than AB (who couldn't be bothered to attend the pro panel at St George).

I have no doubt that he has done much to support himself, his brother, and his own local community.

when you say 'own local community', do you mean british triathlon as well? notice how strong GB/UK got in triathlon after he started winning most races he started...he's someone who has the ability to transcend triathlon, the others have not and do not have this ability as far as I am aware. LS certainly has the ability to do so with his background, but he is in the wrong part of triathlon to do that. ie, non drafting.

I also find it strange how people are calling him classless etc for these one or two events which are in a new format for him, when he is one of the most 'attackingest' riders we have seen in itu. He's intelligent and speaks his mind. But give credit where credit is due. He is certainly one of the best racers to watch in itu.

So really the only reason to like them is because they are fast.

I'll bite. Better options for ambassadors: Kienle (great sense of humor, shows respect for other competitors, works hard), Sanders (obviously the whole remaking his life thing, winning through effort, relatable with some newbie mistakes, very open with all of his data and training, quirky in a good way), Duffy (burnt out and then found the passion again, goes all out, gives a good interview, can do road tris or xterra), Gwen (that run, always willing to give up her time to promote the sport, respectful and supportive of other athletes, has no obligation to do so but takes pulls on the bike)

I'll stop there, but I would argue that there are many better ambassadors for our sport than AB (who couldn't be bothered to attend the pro panel at St George).