Cup wrote:
That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Sanders will crack the top 10 by T2 and by half way into the marathon will be in 4th.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [stevej]
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stevej wrote:
Cup wrote:
That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
Yeah. Looks like 11 still there.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [njosey17]
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"Anyone know what's going on with Rapp? Isn't listed in top 30 on the bike"
his race was strong through about 40 or 50 miles. he's been fading a bit since then.
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his race was strong through about 40 or 50 miles. he's been fading a bit since then.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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Cup wrote:
stevej wrote:
Cup wrote:
That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
Yeah. Looks like 11 still there.
how many ahead of thomas are betters runners?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [gahddenbooi]
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gahddenbooi wrote:
stevej wrote:
ElGordo wrote:
Matt "Fer Sherr" LietoHAHAHA I just laughed so hard....
Dammit now that's all I hear...
That's all I've heard out of him for years now.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Cup]
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I'm glad to see Potts hanging in there (currently sitting 6th at +0:12). Would love to see him on the front. It'll be tough with the other names in that group though.
Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
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Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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May not be better but there are a handful of good runners who can hold their own ahead of him... Potts, Frodo, Thomas and a few others
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Bike Split 8 - Kawaihae almost back to Queen K - 75.88 mi
1 3:54:26 Michael Weiss
2 3:54:30 0:05 Tim O'Donnell
3 3:54:32 0:06 Sebastian Kienle
4 3:54:34 0:09 Jan Frodeno
5 3:54:36 0:10 Luke McKenzie
6 3:54:37 0:12 Andy Potts
7 3:54:39 0:13 Ben Hoffman
8 3:54:41 0:16 Boris Stein
9 3:54:43 0:17 Igor Amorelli
10 3:54:44 0:19 Eneko Llanos
11 3:54:46 0:20 Andi Boecherer
12 3:55:33 1:08 Terenzo Bozzone
13 3:55:40 1:14 Marko Albert
14 3:56:45 2:19 Timothy Van Berkel
15 3:57:21 2:55 David Plese
16 3:57:22 2:57 Jesse Thomas
17 3:57:25 3:00 Lionel Sanders
18 3:58:11 3:45 Christian Kramer
19 3:58:13 3:48 Ivan Rana
20 3:58:14 3:49 David Dellow
21 3:58:16 3:50 Ruedi Wild
22 3:58:17 3:52 Bart Aernouts
23 3:59:13 4:47 Kyle Buckingham
24 3:59:36 5:10 David McNamee
25 3:59:47 5:22 Frederik Van Lierde
26 3:59:48 5:23 Ronnie Schildknecht
27 3:59:50 5:24 Matt Russell
28 4:00:24 5:59 Denis Chevrot
29 4:00:28 6:03 James Cunnama
30 4:00:47 6:21 Jordan Rapp
31 4:01:19 6:54 Brent McMahon
32 4:01:20 6:55 Patrick Lange
33 4:01:25 7:00 Jan Van Berkel
34 4:02:53 8:28 Kirill Kotsegarov
35 4:02:55 8:30 Cyril Viennot
36 4:03:35 9:10 Tim Don
37 4:03:50 9:25 Trevor Wurtele
38 4:03:53 9:27 Joe Skipper
39 4:03:58 9:33 Andreas Raelert
40 4:04:00 9:34 Stefan Schmid
Train to race. Race to win.
1 3:54:26 Michael Weiss
2 3:54:30 0:05 Tim O'Donnell
3 3:54:32 0:06 Sebastian Kienle
4 3:54:34 0:09 Jan Frodeno
5 3:54:36 0:10 Luke McKenzie
6 3:54:37 0:12 Andy Potts
7 3:54:39 0:13 Ben Hoffman
8 3:54:41 0:16 Boris Stein
9 3:54:43 0:17 Igor Amorelli
10 3:54:44 0:19 Eneko Llanos
11 3:54:46 0:20 Andi Boecherer
12 3:55:33 1:08 Terenzo Bozzone
13 3:55:40 1:14 Marko Albert
14 3:56:45 2:19 Timothy Van Berkel
15 3:57:21 2:55 David Plese
16 3:57:22 2:57 Jesse Thomas
17 3:57:25 3:00 Lionel Sanders
18 3:58:11 3:45 Christian Kramer
19 3:58:13 3:48 Ivan Rana
20 3:58:14 3:49 David Dellow
21 3:58:16 3:50 Ruedi Wild
22 3:58:17 3:52 Bart Aernouts
23 3:59:13 4:47 Kyle Buckingham
24 3:59:36 5:10 David McNamee
25 3:59:47 5:22 Frederik Van Lierde
26 3:59:48 5:23 Ronnie Schildknecht
27 3:59:50 5:24 Matt Russell
28 4:00:24 5:59 Denis Chevrot
29 4:00:28 6:03 James Cunnama
30 4:00:47 6:21 Jordan Rapp
31 4:01:19 6:54 Brent McMahon
32 4:01:20 6:55 Patrick Lange
33 4:01:25 7:00 Jan Van Berkel
34 4:02:53 8:28 Kirill Kotsegarov
35 4:02:55 8:30 Cyril Viennot
36 4:03:35 9:10 Tim Don
37 4:03:50 9:25 Trevor Wurtele
38 4:03:53 9:27 Joe Skipper
39 4:03:58 9:33 Andreas Raelert
40 4:04:00 9:34 Stefan Schmid
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [BMANX]
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Sanders will crack the top 10 by T2 and by half way into the marathon will be in 4th.But. . . what happened to "he will never be competitive unless he learns to swim?"
Everyone was saying this entire week that he had no chance. What say you? Now.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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so the commentator just quoted the 7 mins lost by potts to be specifically due to the tires being 25c, and not because they were gatorskins w/ butyls...so he said likely no one is running "wide" tires. that ridiculous answer aside...
can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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flyingirish wrote:
TOP 10 Pro Men - Thru Bike Split 8 - Kawaihae almost back to Queen K - 75.88 mi 1 3:54:26 Michael Weiss
2 3:54:30 0:05 Tim O'Donnell
3 3:54:32 0:06 Sebastian Kienle
4 3:54:34 0:09 Jan Frodeno
5 3:54:36 0:10 Luke McKenzie
6 3:54:37 0:12 Andy Potts
7 3:54:39 0:13 Ben Hoffman
8 3:54:41 0:16 Boris Stein
9 3:54:43 0:17 Igor Amorelli
10 3:54:44 0:19 Eneko Llanos
11 3:54:46 0:20 Andi Boecherer
12 3:55:33 1:08 Terenzo Bozzone
13 3:55:40 1:14 Marko Albert
14 3:56:45 2:19 Timothy Van Berkel
15 3:57:21 2:55 David Plese
16 3:57:22 2:57 Jesse Thomas
17 3:57:25 3:00 Lionel Sanders
18 3:58:11 3:45 Christian Kramer
19 3:58:13 3:48 Ivan Rana
20 3:58:14 3:49 David Dellow
21 3:58:16 3:50 Ruedi Wild
22 3:58:17 3:52 Bart Aernouts
23 3:59:13 4:47 Kyle Buckingham
24 3:59:36 5:10 David McNamee
25 3:59:47 5:22 Frederik Van Lierde
26 3:59:48 5:23 Ronnie Schildknecht
27 3:59:50 5:24 Matt Russell
28 4:00:24 5:59 Denis Chevrot
29 4:00:28 6:03 James Cunnama
30 4:00:47 6:21 Jordan Rapp
31 4:01:19 6:54 Brent McMahon
32 4:01:20 6:55 Patrick Lange
33 4:01:25 7:00 Jan Van Berkel
34 4:02:53 8:28 Kirill Kotsegarov
35 4:02:55 8:30 Cyril Viennot
36 4:03:35 9:10 Tim Don
37 4:03:50 9:25 Trevor Wurtele
38 4:03:53 9:27 Joe Skipper
39 4:03:58 9:33 Andreas Raelert
40 4:04:00 9:34 Stefan Schmid
Man. Raelert almost 10 minutes down... that penalty... :(
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [monty]
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Tim looks strong, but doing the typewriter on his saddle. Those pro fits are great until you get 70 miles into the ironman!! Remember this is how Floyd used to ride, slide slide slide, push and repeat.Not a good fit outcome
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [PBT_2009]
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so the commentator just quoted the 7 mins lost by potts to be specifically due to the tires being 25c, and not because they were gatorskins w/ butyls...so he said likely no one is running "wide" tires. that ridiculous answer aside... can someone give us a real answer as to what % of pros are running 25s?
Even worse, perpetuating the BS narrative control of Potts
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ericM40-44]
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Frodeno attacks
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Pat0]
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BMANX wrote:
Sanders will crack the top 10 by T2 and by half way into the marathon will be in 4th.But. . . what happened to "he will never be competitive unless he learns to swim?"
Everyone was saying this entire week that he had no chance. What say you? Now.
Dude.... were not even at the 100 mile mark on the bike. He still has plenty of time to blow up. For all you know, he may run 3:15 due burning too many matches.
Personally, I think he's positioned himself very well. And I'm very surprised. I hope he has plenty left the tank.
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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I missed it. did he get a drafting penalty?
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Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Tri-Banter]
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Potts looked very lean this year.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [Slowman]
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his race was strong through about 40 or 50 miles. he's been fading a bit since then.
Funny think he is just a little over 6 minutes back of the leader, which I would have said was not too bad at this juncture. But throw in 30 guys in that gap, and now it is not that good at all. Either a lot of guys are blowing today, or the top 10 to 15 is going to be really close..Probably the shortened swim..(-;
Funny think he is just a little over 6 minutes back of the leader, which I would have said was not too bad at this juncture. But throw in 30 guys in that gap, and now it is not that good at all. Either a lot of guys are blowing today, or the top 10 to 15 is going to be really close..Probably the shortened swim..(-;
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [flyingirish]
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This coverage is excellent and race very interesting so far.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [ElGordo]
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ElGordo wrote:
That's where professional production comes in: use people like Welch (or any other insider) to add insight; someone who can tell the narrative of the day professionally leads the cast. Does anyone here not think Phil Liggett (for only one example) would do a better PxP than Welch? Welch knows tri, but he's not a broadcaster and after X tries at this it's obvious he is either not capable or not interested in improving at it.Get one of those british guys who do diamond league and the top marathons. Their commentary is awesome.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [troy@quarq]
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troy. can i get see if i can understand this? live tracking of this race is on going right here, at quarqrace, using the quarq qollector. yes?
meanwhile we have a competing technology being used for the pros. yes?
in the pro race, what i'm seeing are big gaps in time between the moments when the GPS is in range to deliver a signal back to the base station. is that because it's using cell technology? and the cell service sucks out there? or what?
now, quarq's tech, i don't see any indication whether there's a lag time. is that because there is no lag? or because you don't have that field? or what? how do i know the lag time? and how does the signal get sent from the qollector to the aggregator/base station?
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meanwhile we have a competing technology being used for the pros. yes?
in the pro race, what i'm seeing are big gaps in time between the moments when the GPS is in range to deliver a signal back to the base station. is that because it's using cell technology? and the cell service sucks out there? or what?
now, quarq's tech, i don't see any indication whether there's a lag time. is that because there is no lag? or because you don't have that field? or what? how do i know the lag time? and how does the signal get sent from the qollector to the aggregator/base station?
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [fulla]
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we need the irish guys from this...
Train to race. Race to win.
Train to race. Race to win.
Re: Ironman Hawaii 2016 official thread [dyarab]
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dyarab wrote:
Cup wrote:
stevej wrote:
Cup wrote:
That train broke up pretty quick. Thomas dropped back to 2:57 back. Sanders is 3 secs behind him.Thomas may have dropped back but the train is still huge.
Yeah. Looks like 11 still there.
how many ahead of thomas are betters runners?
Isn't this jesses first kona? He will not crack the top 5, maybe not even top 10. (I might have to eat my words, but i dont think so)
BMANX wrote:
Sanders will crack the top 10 by T2 and by half way into the marathon will be in 4th.Downhill doesn't "favor" his strengths. But the fact that he didn't lose time, and others such as Thomas lost 2 minutes, you can see he did what he needed to stay within a good distance of the leaders.