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I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts:
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Mr. Bush came to my little 'ole hometown yesterday. I live in Niles, Michigan and Mr. Bush started his two state bus tour here. He held a townhall meeting on my highschool gym floor. The same highschool where I spent 4 teenage angst years 20 years ago. It was very surreal. Anyway, as many problems as he's made for himself, I witnessed in person (about 15 feet away actually) why he will win. Because he has style and carries himself like a president. Say what you will about Iraq, health care, the economy etc etc...but he looks like a Vegas act next to John "cardboard cut-out" Kerry. Bush was genuine, kind, funny, empathetic and generally happy to be in our presence. There were about 1200 in attendance so it was a very small group. In fact he ran 15 minutes long. The Head of Secret Service said he only remembers one other time that Mr. Bush ran long and not nearly this long. And he had 2 more stops to make for the day. As was brought up on another thread, I think that the president will shine thru in any debate against Kerry.

Say what you will about Bush, but I don't think our country can afford to lose the momentum we are starting to gain. The economy is starting to roll and would take a giant step backwards with a new administration.

I know many people have issues with the President. I do to as well. But I think he is the best thing we got going for now. In any event, to be 15 feet from the most powerful man in the world for 75 minutes was truly a thrill I will never forget.

Doug in Michigan

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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [campbell53] [ In reply to ]
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Your post is exactly why I think Bush will win.

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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [campbell53] [ In reply to ]
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He may carry himself like a president, but I think he is seriously lacking in charisma. Not charm, but well worded, articulate charisma. The stuff that shows up in our TV or soundbite world. Maybe I am jaded (I am a Republican, btw) but I think your perception may most likely only occur and trump charisma in up-close environment?

I look forward to debates to compare Kerry and Bush on this topic.

Watch Journeys with George. it is a great documentary made during his Presidential campaign. Very non-partisan, and you can see his charm come out.
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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [campbell53] [ In reply to ]
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That sounded like a really cool experience and you're probably right. I am no Bush fan, and certainly not a Kerry fan. I think the attitude of many, many Kerry voters can be summed up by the name of this website:

http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com/

Note that I do not necessarily agree with / condone the opinions expressed on the site, I just find the name hysterrical.
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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [campbell53] [ In reply to ]
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To support Bush in this day and age is to reveal a major character flaw or a mighty bad case of spite at all the "facts" of his many failures that have "conspired" against Bush and his cronies. Don't be a sucker for a well-orchestrated photo op. Silly fellow American, Bush is not for us.
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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [EphFord] [ In reply to ]
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Don't get me wrong. Mr. Bush is certainly not the most polished speaker I have ever heard. With all of the educators in attendence, I'm quite sure he wasn't even the smartest person in the room. But maybe 10% of the people in this country care about "well worded, articulate charisma". The rest of the voting population wouldn't recognize it anyway. The fact is: he's likeable (for whatever reason). If Richard Nixon were the current president facing the very same issues...he wouldn't have a prayer.

Doug in Michigan

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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [Kerouac] [ In reply to ]
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See campbell53. If you don't support Kerry you are an idoit. No way on earth you can think for yourself. You mindless moron. (sarcasm)

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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [campbell53] [ In reply to ]
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i seriously doubt the economy would suffer if bush isn't re-elected. economic cycles are much bigger/longer than any presidential term--i think of it as almost a geological time frame. i think president's get far too much blame/credit for when the economy tanks and when it starts going well and i don't think any economic stimulus packages passed by a president have any more than a marginal effect. bush is not some sort of economic genius with innovative or new ideas that would be totally undercut by someone else.

furthermore, as great as the economy is apparently going, the hiring rate isn't changing that much....




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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [mclamb6] [ In reply to ]
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In general...the economy lags presidential cycles. The tanking of the economy is due to Mr. Clinton's presidency and Bush is taking the blame. Same with the terrorist issues. Mr. Clinton had several opportunities to send a Tomahawk their way, but was too busy cheating on his wife and getting a hummer in the back office.
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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [campbell53] [ In reply to ]
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[reply]Don't get me wrong. Mr. Bush is certainly not the most polished speaker I have ever heard. With all of the educators in attendence, I'm quite sure he wasn't even the smartest person in the room. But maybe 10% of the people in this country care about "well worded, articulate charisma". The rest of the voting population wouldn't recognize it anyway. The fact is: he's likeable (for whatever reason). If Richard Nixon were the current president facing the very same issues...he wouldn't have a prayer.[/reply]

No, I didn't get you wrong.

I just haven't been paying enough attention to all of Bush's photo opps etc. to gather that people would picture him as an affable person. I figured it would take longer exposures (and a predisposition) to think that.
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I didn't really start the post to say why anyone should vote for him... [ In reply to ]
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just why I think he will win and what it was like to be close to him for an extended period. Up until the event yesterday, all I had to go on were tv sound bites and State of the Union addresses. I was hoping that he wouldn't be an accident waiting to happen (like Quayle). And I was hoping that my small town neighbors wouldn't embarass themselves or our town with an outburst or some stupid question (in front of 50 cameras). None of the above happened. Bush handled himself very well as did the residents of Niles, MI. I read that he really enjoyed the stop. Even though it's obvious he has my vote there is no need to ridicule me for doing so. I'm not attempting to influence anyone here. Just trying to put my experience into words.

Doug in Michigan

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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
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totally....everything negative we are dealing with today is definitely clinton's fault. what i am really surprised is how he can get a pair of decent shoes to fit onto his cleft hooves, with him being the devil and all....

rolling back of the clean air act and other significant environmental legislation....must have been clinton.

huge budget deficit....undoubtedly clinton.

tax cuts for the wealthy....i'm not sure how, but it must have been billy boy.




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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [Mr. Tibbs] [ In reply to ]
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Tibbs says:

"See campbell53. If you don't support Kerry you are an idoit. No way on earth you can think for yourself. You mindless moron."

Oh Tibbs. You are such a bad dog.

You know what I really meant.

Bad dog!
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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [mclamb6] [ In reply to ]
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"everything negative we are dealing with today is definitely clinton's fault."

You're right. That was inspiring. Thanks.
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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [Kerouac] [ In reply to ]
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please tell me you have a better sense for sarcasm than you just displayed in your response...




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Re: I didn't really start the post to say why anyone should vote for him... [campbell53] [ In reply to ]
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"I think he will win "

I'll gentleman's bet against the whole forum that he doesn't get re-elected. Any guy who rides a Serotta can't be all bad.
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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
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Brian286,

You sound like a well-educated person with a good head on your shoulders. It sounds like you've really done a lot of research into this matter. Keep up the good work and keep on sharing the knowledge you've acquired!
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Re: I didn't really start the post to say why anyone should vote for him... [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]
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any president who can run sub 7 minute miles is pretty cool in my book.
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Re: I didn't really start the post to say why anyone should vote for him... [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]
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I got a Serotta on it.

customerjon @gmail.com is where information happens.
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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [mclamb6] [ In reply to ]
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We need a reprieve on the clean air and drilling in ANWAR..those Californians need electricity for their hot tubs and gas for those Hummers they use off road so much. And in order for them to afford all of those nice things they need a roll back on their taxes...Come on my man...get with it...
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Re: I didn't really start the post to say why anyone should vote for him... [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
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Brian286:

That whole 7 minute mile thing was based on a 5K he ran 12 years ago. I would hope someone who runs a fair amount could do that, and that's no major feat. Now I'm sure you've seen his longer distance times (10K, whoopeee) and they hover around 10 + minutes per mile, that's worse than Clinton. You got tricked by the hype machine again, silly fellow American.
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Re: I saw President Bush in person yesterday...here are my thoughts: [campbell53] [ In reply to ]
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I am in 100% agreement with you on this campbell53.

Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com
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Re: I didn't really start the post to say why anyone should vote for him... [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
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any president that can run sub 7'/mi and invades countries by lying to congress is pretty cool in my book. In fact, who cares what else he does, if he runs sub 7'/mi, hi is cool period.
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Re: I didn't really start the post to say why anyone should vote for him... [Fasttwitch] [ In reply to ]
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Fasttwitch,

I couldn't have said it better.
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Re: I didn't really start the post to say why anyone should vote for him... [Fasttwitch] [ In reply to ]
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Any president who goes through impeachment proceedings is not cool.

Have to give it to ole' Willy though...probably one of very few presidents who got a hummer in the West Wing by someone other than his wife and one of only two who have been through impeachment.

When he screws up...he goes all out!
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