Um, if someone says something due to threat of perjury, that means what they said is true.

"I suppose we weren’t ‘professional’ enough. We weren’t into winning at all costs. And the cost to me was my integrity, I wasn’t going to give that up.”

His story is the type I expect there is plenty of, but the statement above reminded me of how many of the type-A's here on ST exhibit that "if you're not cheating you're not trying" attitude.

the guys who didn't cheat didn't go pro in that era

this is close though:
http://velonews.competitor.com/...ges-ring-true_174876

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runguy...you have done it

you have made me give up my last shred of hope for humanity.

I'm turning evil now

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You misunderstand my post. I'm not saying what what GH said wasn't true just that the poster said GH was a stand up guy. However, he only now admits that he doped. A standup guy would not have doped in the first place

Ahh, sorry, yeah I misunderstood you. I suppose you're right.

CBS News has a really good track record of talking shit

They're going to pay for it in very big way

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Me , too. I lost both of my parents to cancer and believe in Livestrong and really admire LA for his strength to battle through his cancer. I hope these allegations are proven false but if not I will accept the final outcome though sadly. I think LA's nature will be to fight this as he has fought all his other battles.

Amen! Key words being:

The relentless Novitzky, who dove into Dumpsters to collect evidence, earned a slice of fame too.

He's an ass.. and obviously not a cyclist. Why anyone would want to see our sport and a guy who brought cycling into mainstream America busted all the hell is beyond reasoning for me.

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Or instead of leaving the sport they love, they race on having to live with what might have been.

1990 - Adam Myerson finished second to Hamilton in the Jr Bay State Games
1990 - Adam Myerson finished second to Hincampie in the Tour of Somerville

He doesnt claim to have been as those guys back then even, but he wondered over the years as he improved even to the point of being the CX collegiate national champion why the gap kept getting bigger and bigger. Maybe they had the raw talent to make the international peloton clean, but I think its fair to say many riders kept getting spots on clubs because they doped to increase their performance when other riders, maybe one like Myerson who might have gotten a shot. They're the folks really hurt by this, not us as fans or even the postal service.

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You don't have to like what I say but you should respect my right to say them and I'll do the same to you.

So you're saying that their report of what Hincapie told the grand jury is incorrect? Just want to make sure we're clear on this, since it's likely to come out from other sources at some point (probably sooner than later).

And almost as if on cue... from twitter:

Yeah that sucked reading that. Feel for the guy, he's really a good dude. if i can ever afford a cycling coach, its gonna be him or at least someone from his team.

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You don't have to like what I say but you should respect my right to say them and I'll do the same to you.

Perhaps I am naive to the court system. I am surprised nobody has asked this....

Does the grand jury testimonies remain sealed? If so, there will never be an official report that he took PEDS. Correct?

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Eventually the grand jury could lead to prosecution, and if they do, then it will be released. Also anyone who testifies can choose to speak on it, and i think they can request to have that testimony released, though the prosecutor may or may not oblige.

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You don't have to like what I say but you should respect my right to say them and I'll do the same to you.

Imagine that you cheated to get some federal grant $$ (ex. faked some research then used those results to win subsequent funding), or that you used some federal grant $$ for an unlawful purpose (ex. creating new stem cell lines) and you get kinda an idea what they are going after LA/Tailwind for.

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Lance cannot come clean because the evil armies which will form after The Rapture will surely need an Overlord to lead them.

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I am saying CBS News are total amateurs.

And, I can assure you with 100% certainty that this story will blow up in their face......and it's going to be funny as hell

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You dodged the question.

 
>You dodged the question.

Just let it go. Trust me on this. I learned the hard way.

The following is an interesting article with no ax to grind.

http://outsideonline.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_1.html


“Despite these measurements, I remained skeptical about all the drugs until March 29, when I rode an event along the central coast of California, the Solvang Double Century, at what for me was a fast and hard pace, finishing in around 11.5 hours. About ten hours in, it dawned on me that something was definitely happening. Sure, I'd been training hard, but I'd done enough of that to know what to expect. All around me were riders—good, strong riders—who looked as worn out as you'd expect after ten hours in the saddle. I was tired, but I felt curiously strong, annoyingly talkative and fresh, eager to hammer the last 40 miles. The last time I'd ridden 200 miles, I felt awful the next day, like I'd been hit by a truck. After the Solvang race I woke up and felt hardly a touch of soreness. I also felt like I could easily ride another 200, and I realized that I'd entered another world, the realm of instant recovery. I'll be frank: It was a reassuring kind of world, and I could see why people might want to stay there.

When I checked in with the good doctor soon after the race, he wasn't surprised about what I'd experienced. "With your hematocrit levels higher, you don't produce as much lactic acid, which means you can ride harder, longer, with less stress. The growth hormone and testosterone help you recover faster, since you're stronger to start with and recover more quickly. All those little muscle tears repair much more quickly."”

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"I can assure you with 100% certainty that this story will blow up in their face"

How? You think the US loves cycling so much that everyone will stop watching the show because they talked about a subject that 99% of their viewers don't give a shit about? Face it folks this is big for us, Lady Gaga farting is more important to the general public.

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Why does George love cancer?

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so you're saying that their report of what Hincapie told the grand jury is incorrect?

nice parsing of words.

I can guarantee you what CBS thought they heard is in their imagination.

When this story is done, its going to be CBS with a spike in their ass and an apple in their mouth.

You'll see

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I'll send you a DM when we find out what he said or didn't say, and it'll either be 'I apologize for doubting you great mojozenmeister' or 'told you so'.