Too bad he's got no skin in the game. If he ends up selling it, the orginal runner and the fucknozzle that purchased it are the real culprits.

I say out him here...If you do, I have a feeling it would be a hoot to follow this thread for the next 48 hours...

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So 2018. When getting called out for breaking the rules, dig in and double down instead of quietly going about your day

I really get tired of people always trying to by-pass the rules and then to make it known on social media.

I also vote to out them here and let the attack dogs loose.

That Facebook page will be down in 3, 2, 1...

Selling it? Ew. I guess you could give it away. This would be tougher to do in a USAT sanctioned event where you need a membership at check in.

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I'm not going to name names, sorry; the FB page is not that OPs, so I don't know if it can be "disappeared."

But yes, it is sad that people (apparently) knowingly dismiss the rules that make our sport(s) possible, and in such a public manner.

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Just curious regarding what's so wrong about if all we're talking about is some pack fill runner?

because it's wrong.

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Yeah, not good form (especially posting it in public), and definitely against the rules, but in all honesty, this is so trivial a transgression, say, compared to the tax shenangians you or your very neighbors routinely engage in (claiming thousands of dollars of charitable expenses, for example), etc. that it's not remotely worth losing sleep or outrage over.

Yes but why. Klehner said for many reasons, I'm just asking what those reasons are.

It's not "costing" the race anything extra is it? Still the one person to consume whatever amenities are on offer.

Insurance purposes (runner gets injured and makes a claim, but isn't registered. Does the insurance company hit the RD for responsibility? Runner gets hit by a sag wagon and sues. What happens then?). Identification/notification issues (bib #31415 is registered to John Doe, but Jane Smith is running and gets hit by a car, and John Doe's contact info is used. John Doe's contact is confused and Jane's contact never gets contacted and can't inform the RD that Jane is on blood thinners). Results tabulation (will this result be attributed to the wrong person?).

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Nobody losing sleep over it (I hope). Still, I didn't realize that moral relativism is in play here.

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I did a small sprint tri I do most years this weekend. It's a beginner race filled mostly with newbies and has a wonderful atmosphere! Lots of mountain bikes and first timers! During the bike a woman who finished second rode outside the cones for a long stretch of road. There were slower athletes bunched up and she chose to not just "dart" outside the cones, but to "ride" outside the cones for most of side of the "square" we were racing on. This race is not USAT sanctioned and there were no marshals.

In transition I told her I was letting the RD know and I hoped she'd be DQ'd. She yelled at me she was being safe and .... I'm not sure what else. She wasn't nice.

Speaking with some other faster athletes at the race, I was shocked to find out they did the same thing. They felt very justified it was the safe thing to do. I can't help but think about the woman in Boulder who was killed pulling outside the cones, and that in a USAT race it's an automatic DQ. Should we not be setting examples for these newbies? When you sign up for a race like this with beginners with one lane to ride in around a 4 mile square do you not expect to have to navigate beginners? Logically that could mean applying your breaks when needed!

Is it safer to slow down, say on your left, and get around within the designated riding lane, or is it safer to go outside the cones into the line of traffic?? I know what I think and was shocked at the justification by competitive athletes in a beginner race. Rules apparently don't apply to everyone.

Are there double letters involved, on either side?

Third Circle of Hell offense


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This person won't listen either way, so just contact the RD and they'll both get DQ'd

Or https://www.marathoninvestigation.com; even though it's only a Ten Miler, it's a biggie

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Not sure what you wanted by posting this? Yeah, technically wrong, but on a scale of things to worry about I'd rate it a 2 out of 10,...slightly worse than jaywalking but slightly better than rolling stops in residential areas in my estimation. Life's full of injustices if we look hard enough. Not sure this is worth anyone's battle IMHO. I do NOT think this person should be outed, although I do think it's a bit slimy they're trying to SELL the bib.

This happens all of the time....

I think the safety question is relative to the situation and surrounding factors. Your post would fit in well in the below thread. There are many cases "On your left" will scare riders. I have seen riders over-react and crash when they hear a loud "On your left" many others in the below thread have seen this too.

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._your_left__P6742639

Lastly it sounds like everyone in that race was breaking the rules, so shouldn't the newbies be penalized too?

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Both the poster who I "talked with" and her friend who has the bib have double letters in their last names. Good call!

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All too common, it would seem, these days. Reminds me of a thread wherein somebody bragged about a sales person at a bike shop forgetting to ring something up so they were stoked about getting "free stuff." When I said that was no better than shoplifting, I was told to get off my high horse.

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Not sure what you wanted by posting this?

Really? You don't know why someone might not like a poster asking to transfer a race entry when it goes against the rules? No idea at all?

Yeah, technically wrong, but on a scale of things to worry about I'd rate it a 2 out of 10.

So what number does it have to be on your scale before you worry about it and what would someone have to do to make that number?

So, wait ....


That came from a woman? That's more like the kind of response I'd expect form a man [or- if it had to be a woman - a well-placed "brand ambassador" for a women's sportswear company]

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

Yeah. Her first name can be used by a man or a woman, but she's a she. Also, just noticed she made this post 9/15 (emphasis added):


And this from a couple of years ago!

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Interesting thread on "on your left". I say it all the time to let them know and am yet to have someone move into me. I 'll certainly think about it from now on. The beginners weren't cheating from what I saw. It was experienced "fast" athletes who chose to ride outside the cones. I chose to slow down and wait until it was safe for me to get around them within the bike lane. Ii didn't lose much time and am happy with my decision. I find the choice / justification people use to break rules, sell bibs, give themselves and advantage over others surprising. I've been doing this sport for a lot of years, and I'm still surprised by it. Even the point the OP made about selling a bib that isn't for sale. Is it really worth the 50 bucks??

5. I hope this helps!

Ahhh, a Jersey Girl. That kind of explains things; her tone, anyway

Judging by her FB, I wouldn't mess with her. She would definitely knock you the fuck out

I say let it go, for now. If someone shows up in the Results with bib number ###### in the results, and you look at finisher pix & it's not on some blonde woman, let the Army 10 Miler RD know you've busted a bib-swapper [if you don't I will, :-)]

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

I have a confession to make

Tore the tag off my mattress last night