I use the Zygo headphones and really like that they connect to my phone. An audiobook or podcast seem to keep me more entertained swimming than music does. Sadly the charge on it doesn't last nearly as long as they advertise for me. I get about 1 hour usage out of it before having to recharge. Other than that, I'm happy with it.

They are kind of clunky, but I use the Tayogo swim radio. It has mp3 and FM radio. I also have the Shockz open swim, and it’s more streamlined, and better quality, and works awesome, but only has mp3, no radio.

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You should probably just listen to a Lionel Sanders video the whole time

Well I'm off to the pool myself
I'm going to listen to him Ashley horner podcast.
Think it's titled the art of the Delaware Street nap

If you come up to Tremblant next weekend for the 70.3 we could finally introduce you to him in person!!! Pics and autographs to put on your training room wall! :)

Wow

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I was hoping he would be at placid

Why don't you just swim haunted by the earworm of the refrain from Sting's "We Work the Black Seam"?

That's what I have been using since 1985. I enjoy all of my workouts. :-(

I have the tayogo mp3 player, less than $50 on amazon. love it

Shokz openswim has been great for me. Makes pool swim so much more enjoyable imo.

I like that new song "Sound of Water".

Agree on the open swim. I have the ipod waterproof from h2o and the problem is finding ear buds that don't leak or fill up with water, u need to grease ur ear a bit to jam it in and I've lost the rubber grommet inside my ear more than once. Openswim none of those issues. U load mp3s and off u go. Battery stays charged for 10+ hrs also good for bike and run since u can hear the things around u (unlike an in ear system)

I've tried lots of options; from the aftermarket waterproofed ipods, to cases, to the aftershox. Here's what I've found:

-The aftershox is the best option (just wish it wasn't so stupid expensive...though they are now down to $120 on amazon). It's a lot more durable than the player/earbud combos, and doesn't need to be stored somewhere (clipped to goggle strap, stashed under cap, etc.).

-As mentioned, you need good earbuds for the ipod-esque options. Any water in the ear canal and the audio dies. That being said, the cheap options on Amazon work well (ex: https://www.amazon.com/...tive/dp/B07PNCFWJM); just make sure they have the "pine tree" tips not the "mushrooms." The pricier brands like H2O Audio didn't work better than the generics.

-Bluetooth has a range of 1-2 inches in water (easy to test with a BT hrm and a watch), which is why you don't see streaming/BT options.

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Aftershokz brand are hands down the best. I went through several different ear bud style headphones and they all were not worth the hastle. Invariably the ear bud type leak water after a few hundred yards.

Question on the Shokz openswim: would they stay in place/work over a cap. I have long hair and caps are (supposed to be) mandatory at my pool. I don't think I could stuff them under without it being really uncomfortable.

I absolutely love my running shokz but haven't pulled the trigger on the openswim because of that (assumed) problem and the fact that they are mp3.

Also, if you go with Shokz my advice is to buy at a retailer and not through their website. My openrun died (after 3+ years using them everyday which for me is a good track-record as my headphones have rarely lasted more than 6 months). I ordered a new pair 4 WEEKS AGO that was supposed to arrive within 5 days; I've reached out to the Helpdesk 4x where they assured me it was going to ship (no, it has not even shipped). I've used all my patience; I'm calling again tomorrow to cancel my order and hopefully get a refund.

Thanks all, looks like it'll be the shokz.
I have another pair of theirs that I use for running as well and they work great.

I hope someone with experience can answer this. I bought a pair of these for my son at his request and he wore them once claiming there was no way to wear them comfortably under a cap. I’m not sure if it was he was doing something wrong or if they’re not as great as they seem.

I just put the bottom strap of my goggles on top of them. No issues and they stay in place.

I've tried several, because I was too cheap to try the shokz, and my first generation aftershokz were way too quiet.

In the end I got the the shokz, and they are way more comfortable, and way better than any of the in ear ones (2 x different Sony, a waterproofed ipod shuffle, a generic ali express).

It would have cost me less and my frustrations would have been reduced if I'd just done the smart thing and ponied up for the shokz in the first instance. My only complaint is the lack of BT for out of the pool.

Hope you find something that works for you. One thing that I love about swimming and being in the ocean is you don't have any connection / dial into anything. I don't wear a watch but it always feels nice to just disconnect. Then as soon as you get out you have to get back onto the iphone / email / algorithm slavery :(

I use the Openswims and I am a very happy customer. But we warned that having to load MP3s isn’t what we’re all used to these days but the battery life and quality is worth it.

The UnderWater audio Delphin unit would be perfect but I’ve never been good with earplugs in the water. The Android tablet that can download Spotify playlists is a real winner. If they could combine the tablet with a wired bone conduction headphones (since Bluetooth is a no go) they’d be perfect.

I would never wear them in open water as I find the time passes by much quicker. But we only have about 2 months of good open water weather/temps/pre-algae bloom.... So most of the year is in the pool doing 25m laps. It gets painfully boring!

This! I wear them on the outside of the cap. I use goggles with a split strap, and put the band of the headset, between the split strap, behind my head, and they are held in place nicely

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I've never had any issue u can easily wear the cap over the ears with the loops around the ears under the cap and aligned correctly to the temple areas to listen but the hoop joining the two sides should stick out the bottom of the cap, if like this u would think there would be water resistance but I've never had any issues and it's rock solid stable. Jumped in water swam with my garbage technique and always OK

Maybe your son tried to have the whole unit inside the cap in which case it would tilt up
Or down massively and not align with ears/temples.