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dude, do a search in the forums, you will find a zillion postings....

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no shit, get the popcorn out and kick the feet up, we're going to be here a while.

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I just got a pair on www.bonktown.com 80 % off.

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I thought about putting a pair on my extra bike and giving them a try, maybe use them once a week, but even the basic for $900 is a big pill to swallow.

PC's require a pretty good commitment to the idea to see the benefits. 1 day a week is unlikely to result in enough benefit (or, even, any benefit) to justify the cost. One day a week might be ok as a maintenence use after adaption but it is a bad plan as a way to change technique.

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Frank,
An original Ironman and the Inventor of PowerCranks

Define adaption.

Adaption can mean many things but in this context I would say it means after you have achieved most of the improvements the cranks have to offer. One day a week use is unlikely to result in much further improvement from where anyone is now, wherever that person is now, IMHO. Such use would be a particularly terrible way to use the cranks in the beginning. Don't waste your money if that is your intent.

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Frank,
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i am literally laughing out loud at this one. i have never heard of that word. a cross between "adoption" and "adaptation" maybe?

There. Fixed your reply.

Hmmm. you are the first to ever comment on my use of that word. So, I did a little search. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/adaption

It would seem that adaptation is a better word but adaption (see 7 below) is actually a word and what we are talking about is a "slow, unconscious change" so it is probably appropriate.

ad⋅ap⋅ta⋅tion  /ˌædəpˈteɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation[/url] [ad-uhp-tey-shuhn] Show IPA[/url]–noun 1. the act of adapting. 2. the state of being adapted; adjustment. 3. something produced by adapting: an adaptation of a play for television. 4. Biology. a. any alteration in the structure or function of an organism or any of its parts that results from natural selection and by which the organism becomes better fitted to survive and multiply in its environment. b. a form or structure modified to fit a changed environment. c. the ability of a species to survive in a particular ecological niche, esp. because of alterations of form or behavior brought about through natural selection. 5. Physiology. the decrease in response of sensory receptor organs, as those of vision, touch, temperature, olfaction, audition, and pain, to changed, constantly applied, environmental conditions. 6. Ophthalmology. the regulating by the pupil of the quantity of light entering the eye. 7. Also, a⋅dap⋅tion  /əˈdæpʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation[/url] [uh-dap-shuhn] Show IPA[/url] . Sociology. a slow, usually unconscious modification of individual and social activity in adjustment to cultural surroundings.

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Frank,
An original Ironman and the Inventor of PowerCranks

"I thought about putting a pair on my extra bike and giving them a try, maybe use them once a week, but even the basic for $900 is a big pill to swallow. "

I've used them with good results and I'm a big believer in PowerCranks. I've ridden them exclusively and the reason many don't see improvements is because of the mindset that once or twice a week is enough. Down the road yes, but definitely not initially. I think the money back guarantee speaks for the product and if you use them enough during that three month period, I think you'd keep them for a couple years longer after that to really get used to the 360degrees force application in your pedal stroke.

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Frank,

I thought originally, and despite this post still do, that it was a simple mispelling but wasn't going to be the spelling police on it.

Your attempted recovery is good, but I still believe you meant adaptation, because despite being able to find a defintion, when you google "adaption" it specifically asks do you mean "adaptation" and there is no 1., 2., 3. definition sites that usually pop up hwen you use a real word.

That's okay though, we know what you meant.

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"Chrissie wins because she trains really f'ing hard and races really f'ing hard and was blessed with a huge f'ing motor" Jordan Rapp

Yes, adaptation would be a better word. But, "everyone" knows what I mean. It is a crazy thing about the English language. I guess I am lucky that I grew up with it rather than trying to learn it as a second language.

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Frank,
An original Ironman and the Inventor of PowerCranks

Agreed.

Good Post on Lance's Pedal Stroke - I copied a paragraph from it on that one for you because they talk about the same topic re: adaptation to a new cadence ;-)

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"Chrissie wins because she trains really f'ing hard and races really f'ing hard and was blessed with a huge f'ing motor" Jordan Rapp

Save yourself a lot of money and grief>>>>>

Learn 4-plane hip rotation exercises and develop the same muscles at your gym + keep your current crank set. There is no question that developing those muscles helped me a little bit in my cycling and running, but you don't need to put a grand in someone's pocket to do it.

What's "defintion"?

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From:
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The issue is not whether one can develop some sort of exercises to better train those muscles but whether it is possible to do 5-6,000 reps of those exercises in an hour to replicate the stresses put on them by cycling.

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Frank,
An original Ironman and the Inventor of PowerCranks

And how do you know when "you have achieved most of the improvements the cranks have to offer"?

That is, what is your quantitative/qualitative measure?

hey let me know what you think of them,

80% off on bonktown, which ones did u get and how much did it cost u

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I was kidding around I think Frank Day is the only retailer/ manufacter of them.

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Well, I would say that is when the improvements slow down to no more than that expected from the "normal" training one is doing. It would be an individual thing as to how long that takes and how much improvement that person will see.

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Frank,
An original Ironman and the Inventor of PowerCranks