Says who?

-bobo

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I used to see this in the late 70ies early 80ies

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+1. If you accept that we are at "peak aero" for current bikes, something like this is what it will take to improve further. Getting rid of the fork legs is probably more important than removing the seat stays. The profile of the front fender can be made more optimal than a more or less round tire attached to an aero profiled rim. Kudos to Ceepo for thinking out of the box.

I like it. The only thing I can't make sense of is the "nose cone" that seems to be quite far from the head tube. Can anyone help me out with that? Am I not seeing something correctly?

I'm in agreement with Dan: they should investigate adding surface area behind the steering axis. One obvious benefit to this design is that front tire choice becomes a whole lot easier as you simply go with the fastest option from a CRR standpoint (at least I'd assume).

Hello cyclenutnz and All,



'Nothing new under the sun' .... I like it.

I wonder how stiff the front of the Ceepo is for steering even with the 'shark fin' add on?

Fun to see new stuff ............ That's from the past.

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The more I see it the more i like it.

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You didn't go back far enough:

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http://bikeblather.blogspot.com/

I was thinking that too and only thing I can come up with is it is bolted to the end of the stem and extra support for the wheel cowling/fork. There looks like a plate attached there to that connects around the steerer tube.

The bars look unaero and the nose cone looks a bit weired but that is an interesting bike.

The head referee. Unusual equipment.

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Did nobody else notice the new aerobar from fsa on there.

Seems to be a one piece design with the tilt which we saw first in kona 2 yrs ago.

Add me in to the crazies who like it. A lot of it makes sense and I appreciate the innovation. Love that it appears as though you can choose your own cockpit. Also looks like there's integrated storage on the top tube. The possible higher weight of the front end worries me a little, and there's one component choice I don't like with that build, but otherwise, I can't wait to see one. That is, if it's real.

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You were told that by Jimmy R. or USAT Ref?

-bobo

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"What's good for me ain't necessarily good for the weak-minded."

100% real. One Ceepo athlete has been riding it since April in training and testing.

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The nosecone seems to be to route the front brake cable through. I wonder how that's going to be done, as it could be a real nightmare if done badly.

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'It never gets easier, you just get crazier.'

yeah Thierry Marie used the butt cone when he won the TdF prologue in 1986...here it is



One of the reasons why I recall who was riding the butt cone was in the 1986 TdF the first ever North American to wear the yellow jersey took it off the back of Thierry Marie the next day. Canadian Alex Stieda took the yellow jersey the next morning on a breakaway for 7-11 taking the yellow before Lemond would get it. But day 2 was a 2 stage split stage day so Steida loses the yellow later that afternoon. But for half a day, we had a Canadian in the yellow jersey! Alex Steida was also the first pro cyclist to ride a softride in racing to my best knowledge, so there is a link to this thread with the crazy Ceepo beam bike.

Needs this wheel:

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I want to hear that bike with that wheel go past, just as long as I can keep my eyes closed.

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Ugly or not is irrelevant (to me). The question should be "Where do we draw the line?" - otherwise I'm not going to wait for small evolutionary steps, and show up to a race with a fully-faired teardrop shaped bike, but bolt on the fairing so I could argue it's structurally necessary. Boom, sub-4 bike splits on no watts at all.

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Put a regular fork on it and I like it! In black, red, and white though. Those are the only colors a real bike should be.

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When I first saw this, my initial reaction was WTF..? That is hideous..! But then I looked again, and again, and thought about it. Now I love it. It's a bit nuts, but so what? It's a big boys toy, so why shouldn't it challenge us. So many of the bikes now are so similar that they are just boring. OK, it will cost a lot, but if you have the cash, why not.

I'm lucky in that I have a good job, no kids and a wife who 'gets-it', so dropping a few K's on a wacky bike is fine, especially if it is fast and rides well. My mates and coach would take the piss but I can guarantee that they would want a go on it at some point.

And yes, I'd also put 2 spoke wheels on, just for the hell of it..! Bring on the 'super-bikes' I say, and let them be as imaginative as possible. I really hope innovation in 2018/9 isn't just more carbon-copy bikes but with disc brakes.

Cervelo did a great job on the P5X. Again, I hated it..but now I get it. sure, it has it's faults..but it made a statement and does everything it was designed to to. To start with I thought it was way too expensive, but when you look at what you get for your money It's not cheap by any means, but it's really not that excessive.

Now that it is officially released and they have also announced the non fender model, the Shadow, I think it adds to the discussion. The Shadow looks similar to any another beam bike. It is the outside the box thinking and design at this point that is unique in order to move or attempt to move the needle on bringing a more aero bike to market. I think the Shadow looks really slick, the Shadow-R is stilling growing on me but can appreciate the innovation of it.

Just an FYI (in case people aren't aware): similar "ass fairings" have been around since at least the 1930s.

(The name "Oscar Egg" comes to mind.)

There you go! I should have read the entire thread before posting.

More pics/data:
https://bikerumor.com/2018/07/06/wild-ceepo-shadow-r-sidefork-turns-conventional-fork-design-on-its-head/