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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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weather cleared up last night and I biked over to my open water spot and swam 2800m and biked back. I am now roughly caught up on swim, 40km ahead on bike, 4km behind on run. Today weather permitting, I will bike commute worth 30km, do 2500m swim (get ahead) and do a short run later in the day. I will be a full day behind on run and a full day ahead on swim and bike if today's plan materializes
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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I figure if I can make it to the middle of next week hitting targets each day then I will be able to make it through the month - keeping the consistency for the swim will be the biggest benefit to me as that is my weakest segment. I'll be fractionally low on numbers compared to others, ,but my understanding in these "personal" challenges is that you can make up the rules as you seem fit. The reward is the challenge.
My monthly target will be Swim - 48,000 yards, Bike - 750 miles, Run - 180 miles (75 hours @ 2.5 hours a day)

Haha....your daily pace is my current "race pace". Its kind of depressing since 27 years ago race pace was exactly 31 minutes faster than your training pace (LoL).

Maybe June 30th I "race" each leg and roll up my times. Maybe a 1500m pool swim, a rouvy 40km ride on one of their courses on my Kickr bike and go to the track for a 10km run. Add up my times and call it done (well if I survive to June 30th). I barely got out of bed today.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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But you did get out of bed and are still moving.
I haven't been hit by a bus lately, so given what you have been through I put you firmly in the inspirational members of this forum.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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Well I think this challenge, or any personal challenge be it a PB at a race, KQ, doing a first 5km or a first sprint tri, or a first Ironman is exactly the same process. Get out of bed and figure out which piece you will chew off today.

I was just in an investor meeting today. The investor said, "we are betting our hopes on you". I replied, "Hope is not a plan. A goal without a plan we can't take to the bank. We have to take it out of hope to something we can execute on".

I think across the forum, athletes here, just get up and go get today done. That adds up.

Or in the famed words of my friend Lisa Bentley who finished 3rd in Kona in 2006 and won many Ironmans.....get your life organized to get to today's start line. It's 12:30 and I got to zero training start lines so far so I am failing her.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Got through yesterday (6/4) and added 750m to the 1500m of swim to make up for half of the deficit from missing Thursday.

I'm going to try to find a better place to ride, 'cause the bike paths around here, while pretty, are filled with 2-footed impedances (people, ducks and geese) covering the path, the route is very curvy (not rails-to-trails), and the cicadas are deafening. (My times are more consistent with 40 miles during an IM than 40km. :-( ) (It's just a little scary because I've been hit head-on by a car during a race and that's made me very gun-shy.) (And 2 flats so far!)

The swim was very relaxing, and during the 6k I jogged outside (instead of treadmill) I didn't feel any (injury) twinges, so that's good.

Off to start the new day and hope all are well.

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. Yesterday I was mentally fried but it was not from exercise, it was from everything in life. This is when exercise gives me an outlet. I chose "stupidly" (more on that in a second) to bike commute out to swim. Well I had a tailwind from the south west heading over. The swim spot is sheltered largely if the wind stays south, southwest or southeast. Once it is West Southwest if gets wavy. Well I got there and the wind started to move north and suddenly it was straight out of the west. waves turned to whitecaps, kite surfers suddenly emerged from all over (at which point I knew it was no longer going to be a fun mental break from rest of life). I stayed in for what my watch said was 1800m but it does not capture things when I do fly, kick sets, breast stroke, so 38 min later, I packed it in, sick of meandering around kite surfers etc. My bike ride home was into this howling wind which was not adding to my enjoyment/life stress reduction.

By the time I wrapped up my work day it was 7 pm, had a snack, and just laid on the couch trying to decide if a run would happen or not. Finally at 8:30 pm I got my butt off the couch, got to the start line out the front door and head a really pleasant 8 km run catching the sunset. Legs felt awesome. I decided to cut the run short to do some weight training. Body felt good....it was all in my head.

So as of today I am on track on the swim, roughly one Olympic tri bike leg ahead, and around 5km behind on the run. I should shoot ahead on the bike on the weekend, stay on track on the swim and catch up on the run.

Edit: between work + an Olympic tri equivalent per day, it has roughly shaken out to the IC 16 hrs per day program. Its good that Satuday and Sunday its just the 3 hrs per day program. I don't know how that guy handles 16 hrs per day endlessly
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Day five and I’m on schedule - and yesterday they finally switched the pool to long course after 1.5 years of short course, so I’ll be doing the full 1,500 m swim now each day.
Today will actually be in correct order - with yard work in between each leg, these will be my longest transition times ever!
It’s a different animal when we are putting these activities around normal work-family commitments - managing that balance for a month will be my biggest challenge.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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I totally agree that getting it done around life is the hard part. And I am old-er and don't have family obligations. Just work and work out.

As of day 5 the targets are

7.5km swim
200km bike
50km run

I am at

6km swim
246km bike
50km run

I won't go for swimming today. Risk of lightening and with it being weekend boats and jet skis and kite surfers will be going nuts. Pool opens in 9 days max maybe earlier.. If I bank some biking now, I can make up swimming when pool is open and I don't have to worry about water craft all over the place.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01

Trying to stay purist, not spilling numbers over into another day. I should take it further, something of all 3 in under 3 hours. Hoping my near by pool opens up soon.. if anyone wants to up this challenge July or August
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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I think if I had pool access, I would try to hit the full Olympic tri daily. Its just too stressful trying figure it out with open water variability at the location I can access easily. The best local location open water is 50 minutes each way in a car and logistics don't make it viable. So I have to roll with where I can swim by biking there only.

This year, one month will be enough for me. I am registered for a 12km swim on Aug 15th, so will want to ramp swimming in July. I have a half IM in Sep, so this training in June is fine for that. If I get into an IM in August, then in July, I will want a few bigger bike days too.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Had my 3rd mechanical in 5 days, and it was the BEST thing ever; I gave up on my (front) training wheel and put on what used to be my racing front wheel and immediately picked up >1 mph. I was even able to hold aero position for short stretches (so the belly is starting to go down). Up til now biking has exhausted my diaphragm, but I came through it pretty easily today.

Distances today (in order of activity):
Bike: 27.80 miles (daily+2.94 miles)
Swim: 2500 meters (daily+750 makeup+250 extra)
"Run" (treadmill): 7.81 miles (daily+1.60 miles)

(By the time I was ready to run it was 90 degrees, so I decided to just walk "up" the (inclined) treadmill.)

Have not returned to being a triathlete again, as my bike speed is still slower than what I used to maintain after 300-400km, run is over 3 mins/mile slower than what I've averaged in an Iron-distance, and my swim progress is glacial, but weight loss, base, and progress (and trial by fire) are my goals for this month. Of course, the aforementioned times were all about 30 years ago, so I shouldn't expect miracles. Anyway, I think I'm over the worst part (except tomorrow/today hits 95), so I have to try to get up in less than 5 hours to beat the heat.

Thanks, dev, for getting this started, and to my wife who is doing more to help manage our 6 homeschooled "varmintus erectii".

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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How on earth does IC get up and do this daily. I had grandiose plans to do a 10-50-3 reverse Tri starting with run ending with outdoor swim since it will be hot and humid today but I can barely move

I made the critical mistake of hammering a 40km TT on the Rouvy IM Cairns course yesterday . I respected the challenge on my run yesterday as I know we can't hammer day over day on the run, but when it comes to bike it's easy to get over zealous and not respect 'tomorrow'
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
How on earth does IC get up and do this daily. I had grandiose plans to do a 10-50-3 reverse Tri starting with run ending with outdoor swim since it will be hot and humid today but I can barely move

I made the critical mistake of hammering a 40km TT on the Rouvy IM Cairns course yesterday . I respected the challenge on my run yesterday as I know we can't hammer day over day on the run, but when it comes to bike it's easy to get over zealous and not respect 'tomorrow'

well he doesnt hammer at all and his 'run' splits are slower than bike. also he has ideal setup of trust worthy pool, route and all ... this being his 'job'
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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My day was a partial success but a partial bust. It got up to 34C and work got in the way this morning so it did not get going till 11 am. I decided to start with a 14km run doing hill repeats on the biggest hill locally. I had to take walk breaks at the top of each climb that were between 3.5 and 4 min long. The airflow on the speed downhill was nice. Finished run after 5 climbs, got back to car and did 53Km ride inclusive of the same hill 6x more times. Once I download I should know my climbing for the daym definitely a Kona like heats day. biked over to the local pond but it turns out it is closed for swimming at 2pm. Seems like local residents managed to get a bylaw enacted to keep citizens away after 2pm but before 7am.

It turns out this is a big controversy in the local open water swim group. The city had bylaw officers booting people out at 2om sharp..

So now I am two days behind on swim. Bike I am around 60Km ahead. Run 4km ahead.

Once pools open on 14 Jun I can count on 2800-3200 m per session to catch back up.

Hunting for water access is turning into the most stressful part of week one. I can't say a single swim has been enjoyable to either do or get to . And I really enjoy swimming. You can see how most triathlete just say fuck it to swim training
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So as of Sunday evening I’m still keeping going (I know only 6 days in - big whoop). Surprisingly I found the weekend harder to find the time as there were more family activities that my time working out were more obviously taking away from. During the week I can kind of hide my excessive workout time by leaving the house to swim before the family is up, running at lunch while at work, then riding after work and just getting home a little late. During the weekends the family needs come first and there are family things to do. Oh, it is now officially summer in Texas, running and biking in 80/90 degree weather now is the coolest it is going to be for the next four months.
As to extending this into July/August that won’t work for me as I have races in July I’ll be prepping for.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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Got up at 6am to avoid 95F today (DC area). (I'm an academic so I'm frequently still up at that hour, but almost never up by that hour.)

Bike (27.61 miles) is getting more comfortable, "ran" 9k of the 10k with my wife, whose thyroid problems and 6 C-sections have made her weight about double since the time she was running 1000k's, and added a bit over a mile on the treadmill (by then it was too hot outside) to total 6.78 miles, hung out with family (where it got up to 87F on our top floor 'cause our A/C has been spotty), and swam the 1500m fairly comfortably.

Kept caloric intake a bit low today because I still have to lose a lot of weight (at least 25 lbs), and still working on getting foods that sit well considering the greater quantities I now need to consume.

If I get through the first 10 days I will allow myself a gift of new cycling shoes to replace the current ones, which are from the 1980s and have seen better days.

Am hoping my wife will allow me to continue beyond June (she didn't seem too thrilled when I first mentioned it) since I now realize I won't be able to be in semi-reasonable condition even by the end of this month. (I'm shooting for a September race, and, if ready for it, an October one as well.)

Am hoping to see if I can use this same strategy to organize other aspects of my life.

So much for stream-of-consciousness at 2:15am (still trying to get the kids to sleep but I got a nap) when I hope to get up by 6am (3 more consecutive days in the 90s).

Best of luck to all tomorrow, esp. Dev and his swimming situation. (Maybe you should move to Houston, where I hear the pool comes to you... ;-)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Greatly improving bike. Starting to remember techniques to get more speed out of the effort. Can hold aero position for a while before gut starts bothering, and comfortable doing a little over 30 miles today.

Disaster on the run. After about 5 miles (in 88F) my left calf seized, didn't respond to massage, and got worse as I walked home, so icing this afternoon. My calves have "gotten" me about half the time I go running, so I may have to do my "runs" on the (inclined) treadmill, which keeps me under control enough so I don't get injured, although it takes a lot longer to complete. (Always used to get injured when run training over 145, and 165 now, so what was I expecting?) No swim this afternoon so as to avoid the push-offs.

I'll probably need to see an ortho for help on what's happening.

So it seems I'll have to take it day-by-day as far as the distances. C'est la vie.

Totals for the first week:

Swim: 5.75 miles (1250 meters short)
Bike: 187.54 miles (13.52 miles over goal)
"Run": 46.01 miles (2.51 miles over)

I hope to get back on track soon, as I'd like to still be able to complete the goal distances for the month (and maybe the next). The good news for me is that there aren't too many 65-69ers (me in November) who are tearing up the run course, so if Humpty can be put back together again well, then I should be OK.

I would love to hear that you guys are doing better.

In the meantime I'll pursue more academic interests (both mine and the kids') and prepare for a coding competition that, in the past, has been 24 hours...

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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@ Devashish - where do you swim in Ottawa? The OW ones, I mean. I live downtown in Sandy Hill so typically use the paths along the river for running & biking, although on weekends I'll often use the Sir George Etienne Pkwy as it is closed to cars and really nice quality pavement.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [lesmash] [ In reply to ]
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I have swam in three places so far. Brittannia Beach which is a good spot when not to windy, Rockcliffe Pond (far for me, but I tried twice, was successful once) if I am going out to do hills on Blair Rd in the east end and run along the river path and ride on the Rockcliffe parkway) and finally Shirley's Bay upstream for Brittannia and the closest to home and more sheltered than Brittannia. I think I used Shirley's bay yesterday for 2800m swim. Its only an 8km bike commute from home.

The good news is it appears that outdoor pools are opening this weekend with our local reopening plan, so I may be able to get slots at one of the two local locations (I am in Kanata neighbourhood).

For day 7 it was an 8km run before work, 16km bike commute to swim, 2800m swim. I am roughly 1700m behind on the swim, 2km ahead on run, and I think around 35km ahead on bike. The plan today is the same and catch up on swim (swim around 3200m) and end up roughly on "pace" in all sports.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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As of day 8, I am 200m ahead on swim, 36km ahead on bike, 4km ahead on run. Essentially even and on pace. I think the key with heat building up is to just get up early and get the run done when it is coolest. The rest I can do later in the day.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Lost all of the 8th to let the calf recover.
Today (6/9):
Swim: 4700 yards=4298m=1250m (recovery of deficit going into 9/8)+1500m (distance for 9/8)+1500m (distance for 9/9)+48m (extra)
Bike: 37.33 miles=11.34 miles (finish 9/8 with extra from before)+24.86 miles (distance for 9/9)+1.13 miles (extra) (almost 2mph faster than 6/1)
"Run": 0 miles, so 2*6.214-2.51=9.92 miles behind

Hope you guys are doing well.

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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As of day 9, I was 1.5km behind on swim, 60+km ahead on bike (I have to go add it up), 4km ahead on run. The wind was totally the wrong way for my open water location in terms of whitecaps, and I can afford to fall behind on the swim because once pools open next week, every swim ends up being 2800-3200m so I suspect I will end up far ahead once I had pool access.

Part of my riding yesterday was the Santa Cruz Ironman "40km" course on Rouvy. I pushed pretty hard and did a 1:04.5x. Time seemed in line with that I would do in real life. Then I did some spinning and got on the Alpe d'Huez climb and did half of it and did a cooldown.

Running I am try to just get up have my oatmeal and jog-run 8-12km every morning with pickups and random hills and fartlek. Most of my intensity is on the bike and as soon as I get in the pool, most of my intensity will be in the pool.

So at the end of today we need 15km swim, 400km bike, 100km run to be "on track"
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So at start of Day 10 I've been able to stay pretty consistent - enjoying the morning swims, they setup the rest of the day nicely.
Had an off day on Tuesday where I only managed 1500m swimming because sometimes family comes first (well family always comes first but sometimes that means all other activities are put aside).
I'll plan on catching up the bike and run this weekend.
My Garmin watch is not happy with me - it keeps telling me I should be resting.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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HoustonTri(er) wrote:
So at start of Day 10 I've been able to stay pretty consistent - enjoying the morning swims, they setup the rest of the day nicely.
Had an off day on Tuesday where I only managed 1500m swimming because sometimes family comes first (well family always comes first but sometimes that means all other activities are put aside).
I'll plan on catching up the bike and run this weekend.
My Garmin watch is not happy with me - it keeps telling me I should be resting.

Today ended up being a morning 8.5km run. At lunch time I biked over to the shortest bike route to open water (8km), swam 2800m IM strokes and then biked home. After entering all this in the training log, the actuals are

  • swim 15000m
  • bike 413km
  • run 104km


So right on track as of day 10. Once pools open up and I know schedules and then I can see if the actual 1 full Olympic tri per day is doable versus missing swimming and then having to make it up.
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