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AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility?
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Hi guys,

I just placed an order for a shiv tt which i'm super excited about šŸ˜

The bikes comes stock with a 1x setup and a 10-28 casette.
I'd like to swap the casette for a 10-33 if possible to get over some of the local hills a bit easier on training rodes but i'm unsure whether that would work with the 1x sram group.

Pretty sure i'd need a different rear derailleur with di2 at least.
Do you guys happen to know what i'd have to do in order to fit a bigger cassette?
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Holderbert] [ In reply to ]
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Why would you need Di2?
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Holderbert] [ In reply to ]
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The AXS short cage derailleur will handle 10-26, 10-28, and 10-33 cassettes.
The AXS long cage derailleur will handle 10-28, 10-33, and 10-36 cassettes (although I've had issues getting it setup for 10-28).

I don't know why you mention di2 derailleur.

You just need to buy a 10-33 AXS cassette from SRAM. You'll also need to check your chain length and might need a new chain. If you want to go to 10-36, you'll need a new derailleur and a new cassette.
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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He knows he couldn't go to 33 with a short cage shimano derailleur, which is why he's asking instead of just throwing one on there.
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Geronimo] [ In reply to ]
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Geronimo wrote:
He knows he couldn't go to 33 with a short cage shimano derailleur, which is why he's asking instead of just throwing one on there.


What does a Shimano derailleur have to do with the OP's bike?
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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He's asking if this one thing (a sram derailleur), which which is he not familiar, has the same limitation as this other thing (a shimano derailleur), with which he is familiar.
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Geronimo] [ In reply to ]
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Geronimo wrote:
He's asking if this one thing (a sram derailleur), which which is he not familiar, has the same limitation as this other thing (a shimano derailleur), with which he is familiar.


I have no idea how you came up with that idea.
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Holderbert] [ In reply to ]
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If you ordered it why not have them build it with what you want? may cost a few bucks more and delay it a little but doesn't hurt to ask.
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Craigfsl] [ In reply to ]
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Well the mechanic at my local shop said he is unsure whether it a 10-33 would fit and they wouldn't allow me to change the inital order anyways.
Only stock they said so i'd have to order the cassette seperarely anyways and sell the 10-28
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Holderbert] [ In reply to ]
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Why would the mechanic not know if a 10-33 would fit?

Why do you think the bike comes with a 10-28 cassette?
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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Well he said i might need a long cage rear derailleur but was unsure about it.
That's why i figured i'd post here.

10-28 is what the stock bike ships with according to the specialized website.
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Holderbert] [ In reply to ]
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Holderbert wrote:
Well he said i might need a long cage rear derailleur but was unsure about it.
That's why i figured i'd post here.

10-28 is what the stock bike ships with according to the specialized website.


SRAM specifically says that the Red AXS short cage rear derailleur works with a 33 tooth cog:

https://www.sram.com/...m/models/rd-red-e-d1


The Specialized website shows that the Shiv Red eTap AXS bike comes with a 10-33 cassette:

https://www.specialized.com/...earchText=97420-0101
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Holderbert] [ In reply to ]
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Thereā€™s a lot going on in this thread. If bike comes with Sram red or force etap AXS then you should be able to add a 33t cassette

https://www.sram.com/...m/models/rd-red-e-d1

https://www.sram.com/...m/models/rd-frc-e-d1
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Do you have any idea how Di2 fits into this?
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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jimatbeyond wrote:
Do you have any idea how Di2 fits into this?

No, trying to get past that apparent confusion.
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Holderbert] [ In reply to ]
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Holderbert wrote:
Well he said i might need a long cage rear derailleur but was unsure about it.
That's why i figured i'd post here.

10-28 is what the stock bike ships with according to the specialized website.

I would find a new LBS then. As two of us have pointed out in this thread, the SRAM website gives you the answer with about 25 seconds of searching.
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Holderbert] [ In reply to ]
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The Eagle 1X RD is compatible

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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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It's pretty obvious, he says he'd need a new derailleur with di2, since a short cage di2 derailleir can't fit a 33 tooth cassette, and was wondering if a short cage etap derailleur will be the same. It's ok to answer people's questions without feeling the need to belittle them for not knowing sometimes
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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imswimmer328 wrote:
It's pretty obvious, he says he'd need a new derailleur with di2, since a short cage di2 derailleir can't fit a 33 tooth cassette, and was wondering if a short cage etap derailleur will be the same. It's ok to answer people's questions without feeling the need to belittle them for not knowing sometimes


What does Di2 have to do with this?
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [Holderbert] [ In reply to ]
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Holderbert wrote:
Well the mechanic at my local shop said he is unsure whether it a 10-33 would fit and they wouldn't allow me to change the inital order anyways.

You really need to find a new mechanic.
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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jimatbeyond wrote:
imswimmer328 wrote:
It's pretty obvious, he says he'd need a new derailleur with di2, since a short cage di2 derailleir can't fit a 33 tooth cassette, and was wondering if a short cage etap derailleur will be the same. It's ok to answer people's questions without feeling the need to belittle them for not knowing sometimes


What does Di2 have to do with this?

Well, most short cage RDā€™s are not compatible with a 33t rear cog. The mechanic didnā€™t have the specs for AXS memorized, and maybe wasnā€™t online at the time the OP was asking the question.

Not sure why people are saying to get a new mechanic if they donā€™t have this one thing memorized.

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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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It took me 10 seconds to go to the SRAM website and see that it could handle 33 teeth.

And what does Di2 have to do with this?
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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Because
(1) I honestly would expect that to be the type of info a mechanic would or should know;
(2) if not, ok, fine, but i had confirmed what I thought to be the answer while typing out a response to this thread.

If your mechanic doesnā€™t know either of the above, I would move on. Thatā€™s just my opinion though.
Last edited by: DFW_Tri: Oct 10, 20 15:48
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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Why should they know that specific question off the top of their head? Better to say ā€œIā€™m not sureā€ than pretend you do know and give the wrong answer. Iā€™m pretty good with excel as part of my job, but I donā€™t know what the max number of rows in a spreadsheet is (I used to, but not anymore)

And Iā€™m not really sure how knowing that narrow answer has any bearing on his ability to do the tasks that require a bit of skill and/or experience.

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Re: AXS 1X drivetrain cassette compatibility? [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
Why should they know that specific question off the top of their head? Better to say ā€œIā€™m not sureā€ than pretend you do know and give the wrong answer. Iā€™m pretty good with excel as part of my job, but I donā€™t know what the max number of rows in a spreadsheet is (I used to, but not anymore)

And Iā€™m not really sure how knowing that narrow answer has any bearing on his ability to do the tasks that require a bit of skill and/or experience.


Sure I can answer your questions

(1) itā€™s a fairly new product and a point of emphasis for the new 1x product as the shirt cage RDā€™s use up to 33t cassettes
(2) there are really only 2 major manufacturers of components in the US. Sram is one. Itā€™s not like heā€™ being asked to know something about a bike-brand-specific issue.
(3) of course he shouldnā€™t pretend or lie. But, better to know then not know. And much better to know where to look for the answer if you donā€™t know. Like, ā€œ Hey, Shopper, I donā€™t know off the top off my head, but give me two minutes and I can find you the answer.ā€ Or ā€œIā€™m tied up right now, but I know where to look and will have the answer to you tomorrow.ā€
(4) I disagree with the premise that a Mechanicā€™s value proposition is limited to wrenching. I expect them to be able to offer insight/expertise on how to build a bike with compatible components, what works well/not well etc. I recently had my mechanic do a build and they offered me all sorts of advice on things like disc brake size, valve extender choice, use of grease in certain bike parts, and some issues that were specific to my bike (the proprietary stem and handlebar).
Last edited by: DFW_Tri: Oct 10, 20 16:20
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