Agreed on MvdP. Even the way he pumps up hills looks so much more fluid.
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Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [trail]
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Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [WannaB]
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WannaB wrote:
For a split second I thought there was a moto out on the course. Drone cam.The drone shots this weekend have been great as a viewer.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [likes_bikes]
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Man, these guys are close. MdVP slightly better at hopping. WvA slightly better stair climber. That's about it.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [trail]
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the crowds are unbelievable to me , even for a WC in Europe
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [trail]
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Looks like they've brought out the hors categorie level barriers, 40 cm, IIRC?
MvdP is doing a lot of leading on a day with heavy wind and on a fast course (29 kph after 7 laps). Maybe that might sap him a bit?
I didn't get a good look at start/finish (just joined on lap 7), but seeking shelter in the wind might play a role here.
Were the wind a non-factor, this would seem to be MvdP's race to lose
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also, interesting undertitle battle for 3rd
MvdP is doing a lot of leading on a day with heavy wind and on a fast course (29 kph after 7 laps). Maybe that might sap him a bit?
I didn't get a good look at start/finish (just joined on lap 7), but seeking shelter in the wind might play a role here.
Were the wind a non-factor, this would seem to be MvdP's race to lose
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also, interesting undertitle battle for 3rd
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [heyMartin]
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Van der Haar and Iserbyt are playing MdvP/Wva mini-me.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [trail]
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What a thrilling final lap.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [trail]
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DAAAAAMN, that was a sprint.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [trail]
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trail wrote:
DAAAAAMN, that was a sprint.I cannot wait for MvdP to put that ride up. Wout tactically messed it up from the prime position IMO and when Mathieu unleashed that violent kick, it was already too late.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [likes_bikes]
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It was so damn tight. MvdP edged him like 6 or 7 of the 10 times around the barriers, Wout always closed by the steps. Then one major acceleration up the incline mid race that Wout had to close. I think that was it.
And agree with Martin, the crowd was insane.
And agree with Martin, the crowd was insane.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [WannaB]
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If Wout hadn’t have slowed up before the sprint he would have won. Should have sent it once they hit the tarmac.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [Vertebrae6395]
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Vertebrae6395 wrote:
If Wout hadn’t have slowed up before the sprint he would have won. Should have sent it once they hit the tarmac.He might still have lost, but it certainly would have been the smarter move.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [echappist]
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Yeah, Wout has an amazing WT sprint, but he doesn't have MvdP's jump. When Mathieu refused to lead into the barriers the race went off script and the speed fell. Wout got played.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [echappist]
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Yeah, looked like MdVP just had more snap on the day, but that wasn't the time to play match sprint games.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [trail]
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Great early season south-ish France racing at Besseges yesteday. Had it all: power wagons pushing the break in BIG winds, rollers and a tough uphill finish. Powless is rolling well. The break was loaded with beasts with Mads the alpha beast. Those guys in the break were blowing. The good news is you're in the break with Pedersen. The bad news is you're in the break with Pedersen. Trek killed it for their guy,
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [trail]
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So he beat Wout van Aert in a two up sprint, but did it wrong?
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [echappist]
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echappist wrote:
Looks like they've brought out the hors categorie level barriers, 40 cm, IIRC? MvdP is doing a lot of leading on a day with heavy wind and on a fast course (29 kph after 7 laps). Maybe that might sap him a bit?
I didn't get a good look at start/finish (just joined on lap 7), but seeking shelter in the wind might play a role here.
Were the wind a non-factor, this would seem to be MvdP's race to lose
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also, interesting undertitle battle for 3rd
yep, it's 40cm. they're a bit close together and on an uphill, too, which would be really grisly after half an hour!
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Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [jstonebarger]
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So he beat Wout van Aert in a two up sprint, but did it wrong?No, it’s a recognition that MvdP was able to capitalize to a greater extent because of slight miscalculation on the part of WvA.
This was always MvdP’s best move should it come down to a sprint, but likelihood of success of the move is situation dependent, and WvA’s slight miscalculation increased the likelihood of success.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [echappist]
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But for MvdP the match sprint was perfect.
Mathieu usually has more snap, Wout is better at long, fast sprints. My jaw dropped when Mathieu didn't attack the barriers on that last lap ("Everyone expected me to..." including Wout.) When Wout didn't attack after the barriers, when the pace fell, Mathieu had it won, and he knew it. Brilliant.
Mathieu usually has more snap, Wout is better at long, fast sprints. My jaw dropped when Mathieu didn't attack the barriers on that last lap ("Everyone expected me to..." including Wout.) When Wout didn't attack after the barriers, when the pace fell, Mathieu had it won, and he knew it. Brilliant.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [jstonebarger]
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jstonebarger wrote:
So he beat Wout van Aert in a two up sprint, but did it wrong?Ha. No, I think we're saying Wout did it wrong despite already being in a bad tactical situation.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [trail]
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Chaves goes solo to hold off Martinez and Nairoman for the Colombian RR National Champs!
https://twitter.com/mundociclistico/status/1622301267065282567
https://twitter.com/mundociclistico/status/1622301267065282567
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [likes_bikes]
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likes_bikes wrote:
Chaves goes solo to hold off Martinez and Nairoman for the Colombian RR National Champs! https://twitter.com/mundociclistico/status/1622301267065282567
Nice! I'd love to see Chaves have a good year
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [ClayDavis]
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Likewise. He is such s likeable bloke. The boys in pink are coming in hot this year.
Re: **SPOILERS** Bike Racing Thread, 2023 [likes_bikes]
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dang - its hard to get stuff done with all the great racing. maybe good i didn't know about colombia rr until after the fact.
got to see Powless on some local terrain shredding local 2-4 minute hills last day before labor day (md pro cycling classic). when he snagged the super prestigious spooks hill kom while splitting the race winning break in half - well he had to be a new top 5 favorite rider. he's only making it easier to like him now!
hopefully a little break before omloop and strade so i can get some things done!
got to see Powless on some local terrain shredding local 2-4 minute hills last day before labor day (md pro cycling classic). when he snagged the super prestigious spooks hill kom while splitting the race winning break in half - well he had to be a new top 5 favorite rider. he's only making it easier to like him now!
hopefully a little break before omloop and strade so i can get some things done!
Grand theft Costa in Valencia. Wins the final stage and swipes the GC at the same time. Cagey.