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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [bx3] [ In reply to ]
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bx3 wrote:
Listen to this podcast about a guy who bicycle commutes from Ajax to Mississauga along the 401 on his bike.

http://www.cbc.ca/.../season-2-episode-4/ -- Forward to the 18:20 minute mark.

Pretty funny.

Very funny. This CBC radio does sometimes fool people, but it's a comedy show where they make up the news. From the website :

"This Is That is a current affairs program that doesn't just talk about the issues, it fabricates them. Nothing's off limits--politics, business, culture, justice, science, religion--if it's relevant to Canadians, we'll find out the "This" and the "That" of the story."

cheers - mark
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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [M.E.T.] [ In reply to ]
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M.E.T. wrote:
You're missing the point. In places like Ontario or Michigan, bikes are prohibited BY LAW from riding on freeways. End of discussion.



I am not sure what point is being missed - this isn't a freeway (which implies limited access ramps), it is a standard rural highway with at-grade intersections.


Looking at 18 just north of St. George on Google Maps (and I don't know if this is where the incident occurred), I would have no problem riding here.

~Kevin
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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [jaretj] [ In reply to ]
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jaretj wrote:
I was thinking the same thing but without picts of the road it's difficult to make an informed decision.

Personally I've never ridden on a road where the speed limit is 65.

jaretj
I did justyesterday going through some back roads that lead to bridges going over the New Jersey turnpike. Well they are wideing the turnpike and redoing the bridges. I got detoured onto rte. 130 which is highly traveled and had to be on it for 2miles before finding a road to get off. Could not help it. Out west think a lot of roads where you have to use for miles are 55 and above. The writer of the letter is a moron and basically by the defination of the law just made a terroristic threat.

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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [Bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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Bmanners wrote:
jaretj wrote:
I was thinking the same thing but without picts of the road it's difficult to make an informed decision.

Personally I've never ridden on a road where the speed limit is 65.

jaretj

I did justyesterday going through some back roads that lead to bridges going over the New Jersey turnpike. Well they are wideing the turnpike and redoing the bridges. I got detoured onto rte. 130 which is highly traveled and had to be on it for 2miles before finding a road to get off. Could not help it. Out west think a lot of roads where you have to use for miles are 55 and above. The writer of the letter is a moron and basically by the defination of the law just made a terroristic threat.

So far, I haven't seen anyone argue the guy isn't a moron. Just some of us tend to agree with one portion of what he said. It doesn't mean we agree with everything.
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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [mokallen] [ In reply to ]
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mokallen wrote:
If I'm driving 65 mph and a cyclist is in my lane, there is absolutely no way I'm going to swerve into oncoming traffic to avoid hitting him. He'll just have to wind up riding his bike in "cycle heaven."

Interesting that slowing down behind the cyclist until its safe to pass never occurred to him or simply isn't an acceptable option.
Be safe,
Jim
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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [Bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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130!?! OMFG! There is no speed limit on that road, at least none that isn't broken regularly. The crazies all shop there....

I've ridden Route 50 in Orlando, back in the days when it was actually fairly rural out towards Clermont. (Think, 1980.) If you ride there today the sand trucks will flatten you inside 30 minutes. The traffic is crazy and Florida has, I've heard, more uninsured motorists than any other state; plus the druggies, plus the rednecks, plus the old people who sit in the right lane doing 20 with their left turn signals on. ;)

-Robert

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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [bx3] [ In reply to ]
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I couldn't bear to listen after about 2 min of the 'lithsp'!
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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [kluecke] [ In reply to ]
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I was talking about the 401 and other freeways in the Great Lakes region. sorry to sidetrack that discussion. In Utah, I don't see what grounds the driver has to complain about anything.

Actually, I wasn't aware until a couple years ago that bikes are allowed on freeways out west. Freaky.
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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [linhardt] [ In reply to ]
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It is pretty nice. You have to be selective about where you ride in which I stay in the country or head into Michigan . I also take rides down south to another lake and the roads are pretty good. The lake is over a small hill from us so about late June I start with Friday OWS. Running is about the same. Good roads but scenery isn't the greatest. I guess my comparison is not the bet since I have lived in Colorado for a couple years

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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [mokallen] [ In reply to ]
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Some random thoughts:
1) the guy is a douche.


Well, that was actually just one thought. And in retrospect, not so random.

Seriously, I have to wonder how he feels about slow moving tractors? I wonder if, when he encounters the next slow moving tractor in his way, he will elect to plow into the tractor rather than slow down and wait for it to be clear to pass safely. You know, to prove his point that once you reach cruising speed, under no circumstances should you EVER apply your brakes for a slower moving vehicle. I doubt it. But I'm pretty sure he'll either swerve into oncoming traffic, or run right up on the tractor's ass and lay on the horn.

Back to random thoughts:
2) My wife wonders why I ride on a 55 mph highway. I tell her becuase there is a big shoulder with those little bumps cut into it to alert drivers of they are entering the shoulder. She says, "yes, but if a car hits you at 55 mph, it's going to kill you". And I reply, "you're right. But a car coming up from behind at 35 mph and hitting me is also likely to kill me. At least on the 55 mph road, I have a shoulder to hide on. Most 35 mph streets have no shoulder and much more cross traffic that doesn't seem to like to stop at intersections."

3) The guy is a douche.

4) The best we can hope for is that he mistakenly shoots himself in a drunken hunting accident, far away from anyone else. And that he hasn't procreated.

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. - D. H. Lawrence
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Re: "Bicyclists shouldn't be riding on State Route 18" [M.E.T.] [ In reply to ]
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M.E.T. wrote:
You're missing the point. In places like Ontario or Michigan, bikes are prohibited BY LAW from riding on freeways. End of discussion.

/Ticketed for riding on a bike path after dark.
//Was there to stay out of traffic..In the dark
///All the reasonable arguments in the world don't mean s--- when the law isn't on your side.



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Maybe you could discuss the possiblity of the law needing to be altered.Sometimes discussions can be a good thing.

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