DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
DavHamm wrote:
Well of the say 100ish automotive engineers I know. The weight Tesla brings is not positive, and probably in the 95% run away, no way I would ever go work there.
A look inside tesla and this latest epic debacle: definitely not good.
'Quality Is Going To Deteriorate': Laid-Off Tesla Employees On Superchargers' Future
https://insideevs.com/...-employee-interview/ I Read an article that gives 2 (stretchy) reasons for moving away.
1 EV charging is a commodities business - gas stations sell gas, chargers sell Elec. but when you look at the reality, few pay "gas station" prices for electricity when they get it much cheaper (although slower) at home, or maybe free some places. How would Gas stations do, if you could fill up at home overnight for half or 1/3 the price? Charge stations maybe sold service, but now that they opened it to everyone basically, its not a tactical advantage for tesla so drop it. Having gotten everyone on NAC ports, he ensured future non-tesla chargers will include NAC plugs. (This requires belief in a high level business savy move that took many months to play out, by elon, if truely was his plan, he played the other OEMS like a fiddle).
2) the move to Robotaxi is what Elon is going all in on. (From my former days, I can say the profit numbers they throw around if you can get a fleet of robotaxis and users, is enough to entice anyone). Personally I see this as the more likely story given other moves.
There was another article, that detailed all of tesla's move of late, from the major reduction of VP's (recall they were the justification that the company was not all on Elon), the end of the gigapress experiment (two expensive, to much upfront cost, to much tweaking at start of production), The apperent end / radid slow down in superchargers, the end of an affordable EV, just price cuts on current designs.
To me taken as a whole, it has the feel of (gee didn't we all know this) the car side just isn't making the money, the carbon credit sales have dropped, competition has caught up, and well the auto industry is hard, trying to take his fan boy product/sales/service to the masses, is a big sell. I think this is the early move of the robo-taxi, autonomous robots, move for Tesla, and the auto sales are going to be the revenue generator till this other stuff takes off, and (in Elons mind) it will soon, so lets not invest more on the auto's lets ride it out, till the big cash cows come home.
I think spaceX success (I assume financially also but never hear talk of that) has him seeing that profits take a lot of continuous work in the Auto industry, and thats not his thing. He likes shiny new, wow.. so lets go for robo-taxis and Autonomous robots.
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Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
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